I was more referring to the fact that he has a bunch of powers that only work if he is trying to help us. Hanyi and Sixiang are the same. That makes me feel like it is a whole thing in the setting.
Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)
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I was more referring to the fact that he has a bunch of powers that only work if he is trying to help us. Hanyi and Sixiang are the same. That makes me feel like it is a whole thing in the setting.
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- Greece
[] You have been trying to improve your social game. Keep pushing it. See if you can arrange something with not only Wang Chao, but also Alingge, Liang He and possibly others. (Social Benefits. Less focused training. Lower but wider skill bonuses. Zhengui gets more experience with other cultivators.)
Breadth is better, we can get depth later.
Breadth is better, we can get depth later.
Cultivating on being there without being there seems dangerous, it'd mean always not being there a little bit. Expanding on Ling Qi's belief that people grow stronger together, y'know the thing that made her look for friends in the first place, in a way that also acknowledge individuality would probably fit better. Everyone walk their own paths but when roads converge they may share their journeys, we could cultivate on being alone on our way but still accepting and pursuing company with both parties growing stronger for it.
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- the internet
This is an effect of LQ thinking of ZG as her son but not willing to admit it. That's been a long time coming since she first started raising him after he hatched. Parents don't want to leave their kids alone to fight it out themselves, they wanna protect their kids. Moms don't like seeing their kids get beat up or put in anything resembling danger, even if it really is just a spar. LQ especially takes after Zeqing in this matter, as she protects those she loves in an almost covetous way. I remember her reaction to when baby ZG had first started talking and called her "Momma." She was so weirded out, having associated motherhood with being old..and her not wanting to be old. IICR, she told ZG to call her sister immediately after that and it hasn't come up much since then.
LQ reluctantly admitting to herself that she can't baby ZG is an indication of her reluctance to see ZG grow up. After all, parents don't usually want to see their kids grow up. Most moms and dads look back at times when their kids were young with nostalgia. They all have an instinct to keep their kids close and safe. Some part of a parent always sees their kid as a child, even when they grow older.
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- Finland
This is pretty much perfect, i hope we get a change to work on Alingge social, but for now, training with precious and getting closer to Wang Chao is what we are after.
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Going for even more social does not really have drawbacks, and giving Zhengui a broader education and more friends would be nice as well.
I'ma wait until tomorrow and see wat arguments people make before deciding on a vote.
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on second thought
Going for even more social does not really have drawbacks, and giving Zhengui a broader education and more friends would be nice as well.
I'ma wait until tomorrow and see wat arguments people make before deciding on a vote.
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She also remembers her own childhood and doesn't want Zhengui to have the same experience. Other cultivators were remarking on the fact that she spent so long before asking for anything from Zhengui but she really did try to give him a childhood where he could just have fun and play and was willing to make some fairly significant sacrifices to that end.
Ling Qi has a lot of trauma that she's working through.
...I reject your reality and substitute my own! Han Fang absolutely looks at Han Jian familially, like a husband to his husband!
Mmm, this is a valuable point: ultimately, as we know, when our spirits fall too far behind us it's problematic because they become active liabilities, which means they're being wasted.
Our problems with spending AP on them are threefold in my eyes:
- They improve on their own in the background without us doing anything. We're inclined to take advantage of things like that to save on scheduling.
- Unlike everything else, we can't see clear gains from spending AP on them. Progress is vague, just like what everyone else has to deal with. This makes spending AP less rewarding because we don't get immediate feedback.
- Most importantly: we simply haven't had the option to spend more AP on them this year, outside of when we reserved one AP for family.
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- Leeds
Ling Qi, Ling Qinnge, Ling Zhengui.
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It does sound like a family.
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- California
One aspect of this update that stood out to me is how much Ling Qi acts like a mother to Zhengui. She feels pain at the idea of letting Zhengui fight Wang Chao alone, as any mother would when sending her child off into the unknown. Her reaction to Zhengui's defeat is that he needs more work, an attitude far more typical of parents (especially helicopter parents) than of friends or even siblings. Ling Qi's attitude with respect to Zhengui is natural, as she raised him from an egg, but it likely reinforces and is being reinforced by an attitude of overprotectiveness towards those close to her in general. This attitude is mitigated by her advanced insight while being reinforced by other insights, tying in closely with our domain conflict and promise.
[] Try to arrange weekly training sessions for the next month with just Zhengui, Wang Chao and yourself. (More focused training, higher but more narrow skill bonuses, Zhengui gets better martial training.)
At first glance, this seems like the best option for both improving our cooperation with Zhengui and for helping Zhengui the most. These would be valid reasons for voting for this option, but if our goal is to make Ling Qi grow as a person, it's possible this option doesn't do as much as the other. Ling Qi would be improving her cooperation with Zhengui, but she would be growing through just the input of Wang Chao (and whatever she and her spirits gain from it). Better cooperation between Ling Qi and Zhengui would mean they are on more equal terms with each other, potentially mitigating the overprotectiveness issue. This may cause Ling Qi to see Zhengui as more closely tied to her own strength and cultivation. However, with just Wang Chao's input, which is likely to be mostly strategical, it is uncertain how much of this she would internalize.
[X] You have been trying to improve your social game. Keep pushing it. See if you can arrange something with not only Wang Chao, but also Alingge, Liang He and possibly others. (Social Benefits. Less focused training. Lower but wider skill bonuses. Zhengui gets more experience with other cultivators.)
There are a couple advantages to this option. Zhengui interacting more with others may reduce his dependency on Ling Qi, which would likely be healthy for both him and Ling Qi. As stated by the vote, there would be social benefits, which may have political benefits down the road.
Most importantly, this gives a chance for Ling Qi to interact with others in the context of training with Zhengui. This provides a chance for Ling Qi to more directly explore the issues that led to her heart demon. In particular, Ling Qi's interaction with Alingge in this update provides strong evidence that this would happen.
Exposure to viewpoints like these would help greatly in Ling Qi's character growth. One downside to this option is the lesser direct benefit to Zhengui and Ling Qi's cooperation with him, but that is only a part of the dilemna Ling Qi is facing. This option appears better for addressing Ling Qi's struggles holistically.
Another disadvantage to this option is that these gatherings will almost definitely be off-screened for the most part. However, selecting this option would likely result in more options for on-screen events or arcs with Alingge. This is where much of Ling Qi's character growth would be seen. It would be great if Ling Qi could become friends, if not close friends, with Alingge, and this option best facilitates this.
[] Try to arrange weekly training sessions for the next month with just Zhengui, Wang Chao and yourself. (More focused training, higher but more narrow skill bonuses, Zhengui gets better martial training.)
At first glance, this seems like the best option for both improving our cooperation with Zhengui and for helping Zhengui the most. These would be valid reasons for voting for this option, but if our goal is to make Ling Qi grow as a person, it's possible this option doesn't do as much as the other. Ling Qi would be improving her cooperation with Zhengui, but she would be growing through just the input of Wang Chao (and whatever she and her spirits gain from it). Better cooperation between Ling Qi and Zhengui would mean they are on more equal terms with each other, potentially mitigating the overprotectiveness issue. This may cause Ling Qi to see Zhengui as more closely tied to her own strength and cultivation. However, with just Wang Chao's input, which is likely to be mostly strategical, it is uncertain how much of this she would internalize.
[X] You have been trying to improve your social game. Keep pushing it. See if you can arrange something with not only Wang Chao, but also Alingge, Liang He and possibly others. (Social Benefits. Less focused training. Lower but wider skill bonuses. Zhengui gets more experience with other cultivators.)
There are a couple advantages to this option. Zhengui interacting more with others may reduce his dependency on Ling Qi, which would likely be healthy for both him and Ling Qi. As stated by the vote, there would be social benefits, which may have political benefits down the road.
Most importantly, this gives a chance for Ling Qi to interact with others in the context of training with Zhengui. This provides a chance for Ling Qi to more directly explore the issues that led to her heart demon. In particular, Ling Qi's interaction with Alingge in this update provides strong evidence that this would happen.
Exposure to viewpoints like these would help greatly in Ling Qi's character growth. One downside to this option is the lesser direct benefit to Zhengui and Ling Qi's cooperation with him, but that is only a part of the dilemna Ling Qi is facing. This option appears better for addressing Ling Qi's struggles holistically.
Another disadvantage to this option is that these gatherings will almost definitely be off-screened for the most part. However, selecting this option would likely result in more options for on-screen events or arcs with Alingge. This is where much of Ling Qi's character growth would be seen. It would be great if Ling Qi could become friends, if not close friends, with Alingge, and this option best facilitates this.
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- Earth
[X] You have been trying to improve your social game. Keep pushing it. See if you can arrange something with not only Wang Chao, but also Alingge, Liang He and possibly others. (Social Benefits. Less focused training. Lower but wider skill bonuses. Zhengui gets more experience with other cultivators.)
[X] You have been trying to improve your social game. Keep pushing it. See if you can arrange something with not only Wang Chao, but also Alingge, Liang He and possibly others. (Social Benefits. Less focused training. Lower but wider skill bonuses. Zhengui gets more experience with other cultivators.)
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- France
Moratium's over
[X] You have been trying to improve your social game. Keep pushing it. See if you can arrange something with not only Wang Chao, but also Alingge, Liang He and possibly others. (Social Benefits. Less focused training. Lower but wider skill bonuses. Zhengui gets more experience with other cultivators.)
[X] You have been trying to improve your social game. Keep pushing it. See if you can arrange something with not only Wang Chao, but also Alingge, Liang He and possibly others. (Social Benefits. Less focused training. Lower but wider skill bonuses. Zhengui gets more experience with other cultivators.)
[X] You have been trying to improve your social game. Keep pushing it. See if you can arrange something with not only Wang Chao, but also Alingge, Liang He and possibly others. (Social Benefits. Less focused training. Lower but wider skill bonuses. Zhengui gets more experience with other cultivators.)
I think this would do more to impress Wang Chao that we aren't as bad as he thought we were. His main concern with us was our disregard for our lesser (i.e. everyone *spits*) and our influence with CRX. Showing him we're cool and a bit of a jerk might allow us to baaarely eke out a friendship. I'm not really interested in turning Zhengui into a fortress like Wang is specialize on doing though. Alingge's ideas were more interesting and a wider set of instruction might be better for a young Xuan Wu trying to make his own Way.
Have we considered just pawning off Wang Chao on Gan Guangli? Seems like they would form an eternal camaraderie within minutes.
I think this would do more to impress Wang Chao that we aren't as bad as he thought we were. His main concern with us was our disregard for our lesser (i.e. everyone *spits*) and our influence with CRX. Showing him we're cool and a bit of a jerk might allow us to baaarely eke out a friendship. I'm not really interested in turning Zhengui into a fortress like Wang is specialize on doing though. Alingge's ideas were more interesting and a wider set of instruction might be better for a young Xuan Wu trying to make his own Way.
Have we considered just pawning off Wang Chao on Gan Guangli? Seems like they would form an eternal camaraderie within minutes.
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- United States of America
[X] You have been trying to improve your social game. Keep pushing it. See if you can arrange something with not only Wang Chao, but also Alingge, Liang He and possibly others. (Social Benefits. Less focused training. Lower but wider skill bonuses. Zhengui gets more experience with other cultivators.)
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- Brazil
[X] You have been trying to improve your social game. Keep pushing it. See if you can arrange something with not only Wang Chao, but also Alingge, Liang He and possibly others. (Social Benefits. Less focused training. Lower but wider skill bonuses. Zhengui gets more experience with other cultivators.)
[X] You have been trying to improve your social game. Keep pushing it. See if you can arrange something with not only Wang Chao, but also Alingge, Liang He and possibly others. (Social Benefits. Less focused training. Lower but wider skill bonuses. Zhengui gets more experience with other cultivators.)
Getting more experience with fighting alongside others when more large scale battles are on the horizon sounds like a good plan.
Getting more experience with fighting alongside others when more large scale battles are on the horizon sounds like a good plan.
[X] You have been trying to improve your social game. Keep pushing it. See if you can arrange something with not only Wang Chao, but also Alingge, Liang He and possibly others. (Social Benefits. Less focused training. Lower but wider skill bonuses. Zhengui gets more experience with other cultivators.)
[X] You have been trying to improve your social game. Keep pushing it. See if you can arrange something with not only Wang Chao, but also Alingge, Liang He and possibly others. (Social Benefits. Less focused training. Lower but wider skill bonuses. Zhengui gets more experience with other cultivators.)
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- latvia
[X] You have been trying to improve your social game. Keep pushing it. See if you can arrange something with not only Wang Chao, but also Alingge, Liang He and possibly others. (Social Benefits. Less focused training. Lower but wider skill bonuses. Zhengui gets more experience with other cultivators.)
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- Somewhere.
Yeah, if I could propose a write-in I'd suggest splitting the difference and doing like, a monthly meet-up but with some more intensive training to start out.Aaaaaaaa I want both
I want to have a thing with Wang but also have Alingge and Liang turn up on occasion.
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- Somewhere
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- They/Them
[X] You have been trying to improve your social game. Keep pushing it. See if you can arrange something with not only Wang Chao, but also Alingge, Liang He and possibly others. (Social Benefits. Less focused training. Lower but wider skill bonuses. Zhengui gets more experience with other cultivators.)
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- The Void
[X] You have been trying to improve your social game. Keep pushing it. See if you can arrange something with not only Wang Chao, but also Alingge, Liang He and possibly others. (Social Benefits. Less focused training. Lower but wider skill bonuses. Zhengui gets more experience with other cultivators.)