Digimon Inheritance: A Heroic Lion's Turbulent Times (Finished)
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I mean it's also important to remember that a lot of this also comes from Verge's own sense of devotion making him a very harsh judge of himself, it's not just a positive trait sadly.
I mean possibly? At the same time Verge's commitment to the idea might have been what helped Sparks from going full off the deep end, heaven knows he already had to act as the voice of mercy way back than.
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For all we know, Verge will get bogged down in work later. Or other things come up.
If we get more mission selections like this one as you expect, and which is a reasonable assumption but not guaranteed, there will probably be another one with a lot of lives at stake later, too. And my gut tells me each following set of missions will become more critical as other peoples' plans advance, making it even less of a good idea to put them aside to get Avalon fixed.
So personally, I would say fixing it now likely has less negative impact on whatever is abound than fixing it later would have.
Oh, also, it is kind of low to claim we are putting the shield over mons' lives. With the information we have, which is little, all the missing mon could already be dead or perfectly fine; with what we know, the team normally sent out could be perfectly capable of saving them on their own. Just because Verge can go with them does not mean they automatically fail if he does not.
Also also, seeing that someone brought up the time-shenanigans going on in the Flux mountains? In the best case, those might make it so Verge can still do one of the other two missions once he returns. I actually expect the expedition to be a comparably short one either way, while reinforcement will be of average length and investigation the longest; tracking and following traces takes time after all.
I don't know the idea that the anceint armor that's been sitting safly in one of the most environmentally hostile places in the digital world for longer than who knows how many mon will stay alive will stay their (Unless a major faction like say the Bulwark retrieves it) to be pretty darn self evident.
As bad as the digital world is overall I highly doubt that thousands of mon going missing is a regular enough occurrence that the Bulwark feels like sending a mon of Verge's power every time it happens.
Besides if anything that means we should hit the missions most likley to snowball (Investigating the Missing Populations or reinforcing the Hazard Cost given how nasty its mon are supposed to be) first so they don't become bigger problems that get more mon killed.
Because as things are thats what's happening the Flux Mountain options is getting shield over an option that involves saving mon, or in the worst case shutting the one responsbile for all those lost lives down before they can continue, and just as you say they could do it on thier own they could also get killed to the last given the Bulwark is short on powerhouses without more important things to do.
I beleive the term is citation needed? If you want to assume time shenanigans are going to work in our favor I'm going to want some pretty good proof given the nature of time shenanigans.
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So... for one thing, you do have a few good points there. I will just let those stand and focus on what I have something to add to.
For one, the matter of citation? The point is that your argument will just repeat itself if Verge actually gets the chance to go there again. There is always something else to do.
In addition, in regard to events snowballing, drex does not do trap votes. So I expect that if there are events which will snowball in either of those two missions, there will be at least one follow-up mission to nip it in the bud still.
And lastly, well, you are right. I prioritise the shield over saving mon because information is scarce and I want to get this out of the way before something actually critical comes up.
And even without the time shenanigans, this expedition feels like the shortest of the three to me. Verge is fast now and there he has no one to slow him down much, excepting the mon he gets to fight.
For one, the matter of citation? The point is that your argument will just repeat itself if Verge actually gets the chance to go there again. There is always something else to do.
In addition, in regard to events snowballing, drex does not do trap votes. So I expect that if there are events which will snowball in either of those two missions, there will be at least one follow-up mission to nip it in the bud still.
And lastly, well, you are right. I prioritise the shield over saving mon because information is scarce and I want to get this out of the way before something actually critical comes up.
I just said "in the best case", not "it will happen that way".
And even without the time shenanigans, this expedition feels like the shortest of the three to me. Verge is fast now and there he has no one to slow him down much, excepting the mon he gets to fight.
Hopefully not something that involves large amounts of life at risk. I'd much rather be argueing for the Hazard Cost right now because I want to load/practice against strong enemies, but well I feel like it needs to be on hold for now... if we never get a chance to go for the shield/grind up stats without something like this overhanging I will be very displeased.
You can have a vote have it's downsides without being an outright trap. Us getting the shield and thus having power to deal with other threats for instance is an exchange, likley cutting off one of the two possible threats, but in turn leaving the other threat to snowball/innocents to get/us not getting the shield yet are all trade offs.
Thats the problem, Verge is enough of a powerhouse that these assignments likley are all critical (The Flux Mountains for obviuse reasons despite being the only one that doesn't involved defending something), remember he isn't one punch mon but Verge in general tends to be around the same level as a LW of the same.... well level, with Ultimates that tends to be mon that lead entire fronts in battles.
This a fair point.... however I will note that we don't know how big the mountains are or how much the weather (The main reason they don't seem to be more heavily populated) will slow such a thing down on top of time stuff.
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Right there with you. Although, honestly, as a writer, I would say it makes sense. Avalon is a big boon, so the chance of getting it back would never be a no-brainer if I were writing this.
Fair points for the rest, though. I will stay with my vote because I do think the shield is more important, but there will be no complaints from me if the investigation makes the race.
Leopardmon wants us to get it back, so there's no way that particular mission isn't reappearing if we pass it up right now.
That's part of why I consider it the least critical. Its the only one guaranteed to be available later.
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I am aware, but that is beside the point.
What I was saying there is that even when this mission reappears later, I doubt it will come without another set of missions that also appear important.
[X] Expedition Into The Flux Mountains
I mean it depends on the kind of important, I really doubt that reinforcing the Hazard Cost for instance is unimportant but since probably isn't a large civilian population we at least aren't leaving... well a large civilian population to take the hit.
IIRC, part of Bulwark's duties is taking out Ferals before they can become a problem to civilian populations. If they're sending Verge out into the middle of nowhere, that means there is something at least on par, if not stronger than, the Devas he hunted with them before roaming around.
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Except we have no support team like the feral hunting team did. And we had a number of mon that were equally powerful and capable if not moreso, like Wendimon.
I mean in that case we are acting as reinforcments so I immagine they already have forces in the area.
Really I'd be all for it if investigation wasn't already an option since it's probably one of the better ways to go Sovergin but well I feel like this vote says something about votes priorities as much as it does about our actual choices and I know what priorities I want to maintain.
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drexal15
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Technically speaking, Verge is the *Muscle* on any mission. 20,000 strength tends to make one great in that regard.
Heh, it's different to be certain. But only possible because her mental health has improved. Fresh LadyDevimon Ardat would be physically wrecking the paperwork in frustration... and probably have deleted a few mon.
To clarify, no this isn't a character vote, just an arc vote.
Edit: As guessed, Flux mountains will most likely show up again, but the other two may not, or the descriptions may change as the situations develops.
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Ok yeah that confirms my order of priorities.
Edit: Also is anyone else having issues with the central quest thread? Mine is frozen as it was a few days ago and says something about security issues if I try to access my alerts from it.
drexal15
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Central quest thread?
Sorry the quest subforum.
Beyond that..... ya know it's a shame Verge's Rookie form is so unstable a part of me can't imagine him being in it for his intro to the protagonists in a a theoretical other quest or series.
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I think we would have reigned in Sparks either way, just because you gave up on the idea of being a super hero doesn't mean you completely give up on things such as mercy and restraint. In some instances tho I do find myself agreeing with Sparks more then Verg ( Ice warrior situation although I'll admit Sparks went about doing it horribly the end result I agree more on Spark with).
Seems a bit earlier then what has been usual as of late.
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@NMS you interested in flipping to the save the populace vote? Being able to go in and figure out what's causing thousands of mon to vanish sounds like something that would be in-line with Verge's current mindset. He's extremely powerful at the moment, and while there are other mon out there that can flatten him, the number is starting to get smaller and smaller.
With the confirmation that the Flux Mountains will show up again, I feel like it makes sense from a pacing perspective to have an intro arc before we go for Avalon.
[X] Investigating A Missing Populace:
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I'd personally be extremely wary of this line of thought, the 'we can always do it later' reasoning has led to losing out on quests and missions in a bad multitude of quests before as it was put off time and time again.
The fact that some of the people who established themselves as Anti-Craniummon are arguing against the Mountains mission also makes me wary and is one of the reasons I decided to switch myself.
Just be in mind that when you say 'let's do it later' you have a section player base that will actively fight against the option every time it comes up.
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I think you're over-emphasizing things. This is an immediate problem. Also, Leopardmon is kind of committed to getting Verge to RK status eventually. If he wanted to press the issue? He could have assigned it as our specific task. Instead, we got a choice to better start integrating into how Bulwark works as opposed to the Host.