Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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While I agree that qi regen would be nice (perhaps a dance of spring? :p), I strongly reject the idea of ever swapping out our resist art. We do not have SES just to stop strong dispellers from pwning us, we also have it to stop everyone with weaker dispels from being able to threaten us. That is is really important. Moreover, it becomes even more important in group scenarios where our fields become more important, and there are more possible dispels on the field.

It's something to think about but I wouldn't call it an immediate concern, or something we want to distract ourselves with next turn.

The reason I am bringing it up now is that we are planning on going to the archive soon. Plans I have seen involve getting a social art and successors to some of our arts. The previous archive dives have include about 6 arts. The current plans only have 2 or 3 arts planned. There should be room to look for another kind of art and I want that art to be a qi regen art.

I have already explained why I believe a qi regen art is important, but to add another example,while fighting the hill, some people were hesitant to fight it because we would be running out of qi while fighting it. If we had better qi regen than TRF, more people might have been inclined to fight.

I am not saying SES is not important. I am saying it is situational. Against Cai Renxiang and other peers, SES is necessary. We would never have any technique last long without it. However, we do not always need it. Some foes will not use dispels. In that case, an alternative to SES would be good to have.

I specify that it should have the same meridians. This is because it has been said that switching between techniques that have the same meridians is like having a sideboard so you can swap techniques depending on the situation. We have not done this before because every new technique we wanted to learn required us to change the elements of the meridians. The option to regen qi faster seems like a good art to have in the sideboard. There was much discussion earlier in the thread that we might want art that are only equipped in certain situations, like stealth or social arts. I believe that having a qi regen art in the sideboard would be great if we get into a situation where we need more endurance (like sequential fights).

I know we do not have time to train it in the next few months. We might only have time to spend 1 ap on the art before the tournament. I would still like us to have the art as an option to train. I do not want us to spend more AP than we need to on archive dives. I am suggesting we get this now so we do not need to look for something later.
 
The reason I am bringing it up now is that we are planning on going to the archive soon. Plans I have seen involve getting a social art and successors to some of our arts. The previous archive dives have include about 6 arts. The current plans only have 2 or 3 arts planned. There should be room to look for another kind of art and I want that art to be a qi regen art.
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I am not saying SES is not important. I am saying it is situational. Against Cai Renxiang and other peers, SES is necessary. We would never have any technique last long without it. However, we do not always need it. Some foes will not use dispels. In that case, an alternative to SES would be good to have.
Given past precedent, it is quite likely that there will be at least 2, possibly 3 CDE successors. We then also want to actually have options for our social art - just getting one and hoping it will be right really isn't what we want. That can easily fill up the 5 slots we have there. Splitting our focus further is a bad idea.

SES is also not situational. Everyone has dispels. The parry techs that people use to cut holes in our mist also have to fight Resist. We make sure that our techs don't have problems with casual dispels by having a dispel art.

... thinking about it though, regen could potentially work thematically well as part of a Resist art? A wood-based regen/resist art might be a good replacement for SES in G4... Indeed, such themes could provide us with very similar effects to SES's "tech keeps going anyway".
 
[X] A bombastic and overbearing piece (Damaging, Yang, Presence)

This is, I feel, the truest to Hanyi's character. And it is important not to pretend to be someone you aren't.
Dammit, that's not how this works. None of the options are pretending anything. None of the options can pretend anything. It's not how Music works, and it's especially not how Ling Qi with her AM insight focused on sincerity is going to mentor a musician with her first composition.

All options will be true to Hanyi's character. They literally cannot not be.

I think people are under the impression this vote is what Ling Qi makes Hanyi do, but that's not the case and @yrsillar appears to have been careful not to imply that. The wording right before the vote options is "The piece she helped Hanyi create was… " then the options. The choices are not how Ling Qi helps Hanyi, they're the end result of their mutual efforts. This isn't Ling Qi bullying Hanyi into the desired shape, it's a meta-decision on how things turn out. We've had them before, and they're a useful instrument in the QM's arsenal. I just wish they'd confuse people less often.

Edit: To be clear, your first sentence is fair enough. One option fitting your image of a character best is a fine reason to choose it. It's the second one that's erroneous, because it implies flatly untrue things about the other choices that aren't even necessary to support your original point.
 
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Imo ,if we have space, it would be better to get qi regen art rather than river king/coldstar. But this is long term planning after turn ~ 10 or later.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Peter87 on Jul 27, 2019 at 4:49 AM, finished with 266 posts and 120 votes.
 
[X] A quiet and melancholic piece (Defensive, Yin, Composure)

[X] A beautiful and alluring piece (Control, Balanced, Manipulation)
 
Caves of Tunshi Zhe
The Caves of Tūnshì Zhě

The dusty rock wall pressed painfully into Wang Lei's back as he struggled to weave his presence throughout the natural qi of the cave system he had found himself in. It was made easier by the fact that whatever ritual the barbarian tribe living in these caves had enacted had drawn all the spirits to that great pit near the back of the caves. The screams of the imperials the tribe were sacrificing did make it harder to focus on his escape though. He had managed to slip in before the ritual started but now that Wang Lei needed to leave.
When he neared the cave exit he had to bite back a curse. It seems as though not every tribesman had attended the ritual as two warped men stood guard at the entrance to the cave system. The two men in front of him looked more like boulders than men with their tumorous rock growths that leaked black liquid. He felt the powerful qi radiating off of them and knew that any attempt to get by them with his skills would be felt. The qi and the number of tumorous rock growths let Wang Lei know that these two were likely among the most powerful in the tribe. Being chased by them was a risk Wang Lei could not afford to take. With a careful breath he leaned his body and qi back into the cave walls. As he watched the cave exit for his chance as the distant screams led his thoughts back to simpler times.

Three days ago

A stack of papers hit Wang Lei's desk before he even had a chance to look up at the sound of the door opening. The emerald eyes of the person he hated most in this city stared at him as he raised his head. "Zhang Jing. It is a… pleasure meeting you so soon in the day."
"Cut the shit Wang Lei. Two more surveyor teams have vanished. You need to get out of your chair and do your job to figure out what is going on."
"Surveyor's disappear all the time Zhang Jing. I don't see a reason I should leave the comfort of the city every time you force an under trained and under equipped team out past the wards. If you were not so concerned about getting a quick promotion by finding something maybe your surveyor teams would last longer."
Zhang Jing's teeth sounded like millstones as they ground together. "All of my surveyor teams understand the risks they take. I am not here to be slandered about my methods. I am here to inform you that two surveyor teams have disappeared during the same assignment. It now falls to your division to figure out what threat is there." Zhang Jing's smile turned draconic, "unless of course you would like me to inform our superiors about your cowardliness."
Wang Lei simply sighed and gestured to the papers that Zhang Jing had put on his desk. "Very well. I will trust in you this. What is the assignment that seems so dangerous."
Zhang Jing flicked her wrist and a map unfurled across the desk. "This is the area of discussion. The area is very hilly with steep valleys. I don't know if there were any records of the area but if they existed they were destroyed during the Duchess' ascension and so it falls to the surveyor teams to find out what may be there."
"Since my other teams are already committed I will go personally and see what the problem is. However, you will owe me quite a few favors for this Zhang Jing."
Wang Lei could see Zhang Jing teeth as they ground together. "Fine, fine. I, Zhang Jing, will owe Wang Lei two favors after this mess is cleared up."
"Very well. Than I shall leave immediately. But Zhang Jing, try not to create even more messes for me before I get back."

Present Day

As the sun began to peak it's way into the deep gloom of the distant screams slowly petered out. With new light Wang Lei was able to make the various cave paintings this tribe of barbarians had scrawled everywhere. A great scaled beast seemed to have chased them into these caves. Before he had time to make some sense out of the crude paintings the sound of running feet drew his eyes away from the paintings. A young barbarian was rushing towards the entrance. Wang Lei had noticed him before the ceremony throwing small rocks at the few imperials remaining in their crude cells. Now though it seemed from the silver of qi in the boy that he had managed to awaken sometime in the night.
As the boy neared the entrance one of the guards slowly turned to face the boy. With excited sounding gibberish the boy pointed to the small rock growth on his arm. With a careful movement the guard wrapped his arms around the boy. Slowly standing back up the guard barked gibberish at his companion before letting the boy drag him deeper into the cave. The other guard soon followed the pair. Without looking back Wang Lei dashed out of the cave and into freedom. He would have to inform the imperial army that a tribe of barbarians had made a home in the middle of Imperial territory. Such things could not be left alone.

A.N
So not super happy with this piece. It feels very stilted and the flow seems off to me. Nothing I did seemed to make it better though so here it is for the thread to critique. This idea came from world history 101 where the author talks about isolated tribes and mentions of older tribes making pacts with spirits in order to cultivate. In these caves the tribe trades flesh for spiritually active rock growths that let them start to cultivate. The tribe also just recently learned that if they fed the spirits before asking for bargains they could get a lot more power for far less flesh from themselves.
@yrsillar Omake for the Omake throne! Critiques are welcome as they help me become a better writer.
 
Guys. Can anybody tell me the logical end result of a Bombastic Ice Girl?

My mind either goes 'Ice Age' or 'Whatever Snow Does In Summer'

[X] A bombastic and overbearing piece (Damaging, Yang, Presence)

and that vote is proof of my support to Hanyi forming her 1 woman Idol Group, but I just want help with the Yang Ice concept.

The wording right before the vote options is "The piece she helped Hanyi create was… " then the options. The choices are not how Ling Qi helps Hanyi, they're the end result of their mutual efforts. This isn't Ling Qi bullying Hanyi into the desired shape, it's a meta-decision on how things turn out. We've had them before, and they're a useful instrument in the QM's arsenal. I just wish they'd confuse people less often.
This should be Highlighted. Maybe even used as an actual quote in arguements to stop some of the derails.
 
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[X] A quiet and melancholic piece (Defensive, Yin, Composure)

Defense! Our whole family must become turtles!
 
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Adhoc vote count started by 1986ctcel on Jul 27, 2019 at 10:23 AM, finished with 278 posts and 125 votes.
 
guess I'll switch since this has a few more votes
[X] A beautiful and alluring piece (Control, Balanced, Manipulation)
 
are we gonna be the frontwoman of our own band? I ask you this. And I answer: No. We are stealth, and shadow, and power, but we're no frontwoman. A vote for bombast is a vote for a well balanced band!
[X] A bombastic and overbearing piece (Damaging, Yang, Presence)

screaming about your pain is also a way to get it out. No need to try and come to terms or be melancholy about it, scream it out! Assert that it's real so that you have to accept it! And it sucks! But you know what? We're tearing you apart with our pain not just stewing or glooming or brooding!

This also has good synergy because if she's a bombastic CC and damage focused spirit that screams atop Zhengui, Zhengui has a discrete and stationary target to protect while we flit around scooping up priority targets lol. We're like that cool girl guitarist that has sick riffs, Six is like the bassist tying everything together, Zhengui is the stage and the lights and the drums, and Hanyi is our frontwoman. The LQ Family Band: now with 100% more terrifying ice damage!
 
are we gonna be the frontwoman of our own band? I ask you this. And I answer: No. We are stealth, and shadow, and power, but we're no frontwoman. A vote for bombast is a vote for a well balanced band!
[X] A bombastic and overbearing piece (Damaging, Yang, Presence)

screaming about your pain is also a way to get it out. No need to try and come to terms or be melancholy about it, scream it out! Assert that it's real so that you have to accept it! And it sucks! But you know what? We're tearing you apart with our pain not just stewing or glooming or brooding!

This also has good synergy because if she's a bombastic CC and damage focused spirit that screams atop Zhengui, Zhengui has a discrete and stationary target to protect while we flit around scooping up priority targets lol. We're like that cool girl guitarist that has sick riffs, Six is like the bassist tying everything together, Zhengui is the stage and the lights and the drums, and Hanyi is our frontwoman. The LQ Family Band: now with 100% more terrifying ice damage!
This has been amusing me for a while, people excited over the word bombastic. Here's some dictionary definitions: "high-sounding but with little meaning; inflated", "(of a person, their language or writing) showy in speech and given to using flowery or elaborate terms; grandiloquent; pompous", "marked by or given to speech or writing that is given exaggerated importance by artificial or empty means", "inflated".

I think people are reading it as something more like "boisterous"?
 
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