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Digimon Inheritance: A Heroic Lion's Turbulent Times (Finished)

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[X] Talk to *Boy* the Elecmon: Ogremon's apprentice seems like a nice enough rookie. You wouldn't mind talking to him, learning why he wants the position... and maybe testing his mettle. Caretakers can't be weak after all.
 
undead frog said:
He's also probably the one closest to digivolving aside from Beat since Sparks just armored and Verge takes longer than normal to hit his max.
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Now that everyone got upgrades, I don't think anyone is close to evolving.

Remember, a little while ago Verge noted that Pit doesn't seem to have run into any of his softcaps yet.

Honestly sounds like Champion Pit is like Rookie Verge without the exploding. Starting stats and growth rate of an average digimon, but caps of a top tier digimon.

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Although in theory Pit might also have minimum evolution requirements similar to those of an average digimon, which would make it possible for him to evolve before hitting any of his softcaps if he gets old enough and emotional enough.
 
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[x] There is a technique you need to practice:*Void Step* as you've nicknamed it internally allowed that Ultimate to walk, run and push off nothing. You have a very, very vague idea of how it works and now you have the time to experiment and test it out.
 
@drexal15
Would it be valid to ask Ogremon and/or Elecmon to give us a basic rundown of the Bulwark's beliefs (beyond just keeping excessively strong ferals, especially those from places like the Hazard Coast, in check), meaning behind their flag, etc?

Verge has solid reasons to believe that part of their job is to teach that stuff to young Digimon, so they should be quite experienced at explaining this stuff.
 
Can't Gryzmon learn Tyrant Fist?

[X] Ask Ogremon for a spar: You're confident in your victory through power alone but... something about his attitude makes you think the champion might actually be strong enough to pose a challenge. Plus, a mon this old should be very experienced in combat, perhaps he could help your own skill grow.
 
[X] Ask Ogremon for a spar: You're confident in your victory through power alone but... something about his attitude makes you think the champion might actually be strong enough to pose a challenge. Plus, a mon this old should be very experienced in combat, perhaps he could help your own skill grow.
 
[X] Talk to *Boy* the Elecmon: Ogremon's apprentice seems like a nice enough rookie. You wouldn't mind talking to him, learning why he wants the position... and maybe testing his mettle. Caretakers can't be weak after all.
justinkal said:
Now that everyone got upgrades, I don't think anyone is close to evolving.

Remember, a little while ago Verge noted that Pit doesn't seem to have run into any of his softcaps yet.

Honestly sounds like Champion Pit is like Rookie Verge without the exploding. Starting stats and growth rate of an average digimon, but caps of a top tier digimon.

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Although in theory Pit might also have minimum evolution requirements similar to those of an average digimon, which would make it possible for him to evolve before hitting any of his softcaps if he gets old enough and emotional enough.
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Don't Anges evolve super slowly?
The Angel Digidestined is usually the last one to evolve.
 
wingstrike96 said:
Don't Anges evolve super slowly?
The Angel Digidestined is usually the last one to evolve.
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Remember that Wendimon noted that Pit's strength as a Champion seems more like the strength of an average Ultimate.

If you actually look at Pit's stats on page 382, his stat total (12,028) is only a hair lower than the stat total that Sparks had immediately after using his digimental and defeating Sandiramon on page 392 (12,130).

He's way beyond what can be explained as simply angels being strong and slow to evolve. As a not particularly strong Champion species, low tier by angel standards, he's not even hit his softcaps yet despite having stats comparable to a freakishly strong Champion who used a digimental.

Presumably, if he hadn't had stunted growth as a rookie due to slavery, he'd have become a monstrously powerful champion right off the bat like Sparks and Beat did. Instead he became an average strength champion, but likely still has the same caps he would have had if he didn't get stunted growth (aside from the cap increases that would have resulted from evolving into a higher tier champion).
 
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wingstrike96 said:
Don't Anges evolve super slowly?
The Angel Digidestined is usually the last one to evolve.
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I mean to be fair A. He's a Pidmon which is basically lesser Ange so the time would probable less. B. Partner evos aren't exactly the same for normal considering we don't have to refert into lower levels and Digivolve again. C. Pit's probably hitting a lot of caps about now
 
Demenos said:
I mean to be fair A. He's a Pidmon which is basically lesser Ange so the time would probable less. B. Partner evos aren't exactly the same for normal considering we don't have to refert into lower levels and Digivolve again. C. Pit's probably hitting a lot of caps about now
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Verge commented not too long ago that Pit doesn't seem to have hit any of his caps yet.
 
[x] There is a technique you need to practice:*Void Step* as you've nicknamed it internally allowed that Ultimate to walk, run and push off nothing. You have a very, very vague idea of how it works and now you have the time to experiment and test it out.
 
[X] Talk to *Boy* the Elecmon: Ogremon's apprentice seems like a nice enough rookie. You wouldn't mind talking to him, learning why he wants the posistion... and maybe testing his mettle. Caretakers can't be weak after all.
 
justinkal said:
Honestly sounds like Champion Pit is like Rookie Verge without the exploding. Starting stats and growth rate of an average digimon, but caps of a top tier digimon.
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Sounds like Verge in general actually.

Anyway at this point I'm pretty sure that if Pit isn't a Scion (Either of a demon lord or whatever we call the great angels) than he's one of Verge two siblings from his past life. The Sovergiens apparently don't do the 'Scion' thing and as a result I'm decently sure that Great Dragons that don't have the hazard don't do so either.
 
undead frog said:
Sounds like Verge in general actually.

Anyway at this point I'm pretty sure that if Pit isn't a Scion (Either of a demon lord or whatever we call the great angels) than he's one of Verge two siblings from his past life. The Sovergiens apparently don't do the 'Scion' thing and as a result I'm decently sure that Great Dragons that don't have the hazard don't do so either.
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Nah, the difference is that Verge was ridiculously strong for a freshly evolved champion the moment he evolved into a champion. That was not the case for Pit. Pit right after evolving into champion looked like a pretty typical fresh champion.

Pit presumably had starting rookie stats more like Flamemon's (but not quite as high), but then barely increased his stats at all before evolving to champion.
 
justinkal said:
Pit presumably had starting rookie stats more like Flamemon's (but not quite as high), but then barely increased his stats at all before evolving to champion.
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Pit started out as a Tsukaimon, and was basically swimming upstream to become an angel digimon after Angemon rescued him and inspired him.
 
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TempestK said:
Pit started out as a Tsukaimon, and was basically swimming upstream to become an angel digimon after Angemon rescued him and inspired him.
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Yeah, but from the sound of things, most of his time as a rookie was spent in slavery, where he wouldn't have had much stat growth.

Starting out as strong for a fresh Tsukaimon (considering who he's the reborn version of, its unlikely for this to not be true), but by the time he got rescued by Angemon had grown old enough that he only had average-ish stats for a Tsukaimon of his age.

......although I guess its also possible that one of the stages before Rookie is where he started out strong for his age and species and ended average for his age and species.
 
@justinkal you might want to reread the times Pit describes being a rookie. He was basically in an ongoing fight club with no safety net. You fought, you won, or you died. And Pit was the favored "pet" of the Devidramon that ran it. So he was strong, but until he was rescued he was running on wrath, much like rookie Verge at times. Angemon gave him something else to strive for, but at that point he was literally fighting against his own experiences and likely the data he'd loaded in order to become an angel like his hero. If he hadn't been rescued he probably would have become a stupidly powerful Devimon.
 
TempestK said:
@justinkal you might want to reread the times Pit describes being a rookie. He was basically in an ongoing fight club with no safety net. You fought, you won, or you died. And Pit was the favored "pet" of the Devidramon that ran it. So he was strong, but until he was rescued he was running on wrath, much like rookie Verge at times. Angemon gave him something else to strive for, but at that point he was literally fighting against his own experiences and likely the data he'd loaded in order to become an angel like his hero. If he hadn't been rescued he probably would have become a stupidly powerful Devimon.
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I might be remembering a bit wrong (and its a bit difficult to search for that kind of section), but I was remembering it more as the "pet" thing being in the sense of a toy to beat and and watch get beaten up. Basically being a living punching bag for other digimon.
 
justinkal said:
It will also be absurdly useful if we become Vikaralamon as an Ultimate
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If Verge became a Vikaralamon he wouldn't be able to do anything bipedal. He'd be stuck on all fours pretty much permanently.
Vanargand said:
Its probably the digital world version of Ki/Chi as well
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There isn't a difference between the Chi/Ki and Maigc here. All that is just energy that stems from the spirit stat.
justinkal said:
@drexal15
Would it be valid to ask Ogremon and/or Elecmon to give us a basic rundown of the Bulwark's beliefs (beyond just keeping excessively strong ferals, especially those from places like the Hazard Coast, in check), meaning behind their flag, etc?

Verge has solid reasons to believe that part of their job is to teach that stuff to young Digimon, so they should be quite experienced at explaining this stuff.
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He could. But it would be more practical to ask directly from the source. There's a Bulwark fort at the side of town.
Demenos said:
Can't Gryzmon learn Tyrant Fist?
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Theoretically yes.

justinkal said:
Instead he became an average strength champion,
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Somthing to note, Pit as a fresh champion was already as strong or stronger than most Pidmon.
justinkal said:
Pit presumably had starting rookie stats more like Flamemon's (but not quite as high), but then barely increased his stats at all before evolving to champion.
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Tsukaimon and Patamon are generally not the most combat capable species. So his stats weren't that high. More in the 100-200 range instead of the 300.
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If he hadn't been rescued he probably would have become a stupidly powerful Devimon.
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Yeah, he'd have been a stupidly powerful demonic or fallen angel digimon. Maybe like 50% stronger than he is now, or maybe even double if he got in a lot of loading.

===anyway, I fixed an error where it came to skill gain. Verge gained 1 general skill points and 2 innhis martial arts sub-class.
Adhoc vote count started by drexal15 on May 4, 2019 at 4:26 PM, finished with 25 posts and 12 votes.
  • [X] Talk to *Boy* the Elecmon: Ogremon's apprentice seems like a nice enough rookie. You wouldn't mind talking to him, learning why he wants the posistion... and maybe testing his mettle. Caretakers can't be weak after all.
    [x] There is a technique you need to practice:*Void Step* as you've nicknamed it internally allowed that Ultimate to walk, run and push off nothing. You have a very, very vague idea of how it works and now you have the time to experiment and test it out.
    [X] Ask Ogremon for a spar: You're confident in your victory through power alone but... something about his attitude makes you think the champion might actually be strong enough to pose a challenge. Plus, a mon this old should be very experienced in combat, perhaps he could help your own skill grow.
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[X] Ask Ogremon for a spar: You're confident in your victory through power alone but... something about his attitude makes you think the champion might actually be strong enough to pose a challenge. Plus, a mon this old should be very experienced in combat, perhaps he could help your own skill grow.

TYRANT FIST
 
justinkal said:
But would be mon there actually want to talk to us and would the rest of the group have any interest in visiting for that reason?
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Verge's squad sleeps there. They'll be visiting tonight no matter what. As for your first point, Verge hasn't asked so he doesn't know.

But Cyberdramon is open enough to discuss stuff with Ogremon so...

Having a write in to ask Ogremon is viable mind you.
 
drexal15 said:
Verge's squad sleeps there. They'll be visiting tonight no matter what. As for your first point, Verge hasn't asked so he doesn't know.

But Cyberdramon is open enough to discuss stuff with Ogremon so...

Having a write in to ask Ogremon is viable mind you.
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Well, the people there kinda grumbled about needing to provide bedding for us, and most of the townsfolk seem scared of us, so I was thinking maybe best to ask the guys who are actually talking to us :V
 
[X] Talk to *Boy* the Elecmon: Ogremon's apprentice seems like a nice enough rookie. You wouldn't mind talking to him, learning why he wants the posistion... and maybe testing his mettle. Caretakers can't be weak after all.
 
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