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- The United States
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Uhhh, she can hear spirits. Pretty sure that's like the thing we know to look form
Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)
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Uhhh, she can hear spirits. Pretty sure that's like the thing we know to look form
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- Europe
What...
The earlier you can get your social indoctrination in the better. That's the literal basis of the familial unit. By creating deep, positive emotional bonds before she is fully mentally capable it becomes much more difficult for her to turn back on that later.
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- Canada
You mentioned things that happened in story, but none of them could be logically followed by your point about we were gonna cultivate them or what not. I covered your individuals arguments already.
Our time spent with them doesn't cost us AP, this is the whole point of this vote... No one here is saying that we should wipe them from existence / ignore them.
Us "lugging them around" is very much something we can afford, doesn't so is pocket change to us, if you think they're currently a burden that's on you (which is ironic of you to say since spending AP on them would mechanically burden us with them). And again, there's nothing that you're saying that actually explain how we could make them useful, you're just wishfully thinking that us doing this while somehow make them a useful resource.
Now is definitely the worse time, we're like a college student that has to desperately cram.
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- The United States
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- He/They
Another super term thing to note is that we will likely eventually "outgrow" Zhengui.
Him having a good relationship with Biyu starting in her childhood at that point will make them better partnersm
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- The Star Kingdom of Manticore
This is a really hard choice for me. To me we have basically gained an ap because challenges no longer cost ap and are in the background (I was an advocate for challenging as much as possible). So spending that ap with family would make it a wash. However, I honestly believed that we would not make it to the goals set for unless something changed. Keeping that bonus ap would go a long way to meeting our goals and thus building a better future for our family. For now I will vote
[X] While you will be present as much as you can, your household cannot be top priority yet. (Status quo)
I may change this later but for right now this is my gut feeling.
[X] While you will be present as much as you can, your household cannot be top priority yet. (Status quo)
I may change this later but for right now this is my gut feeling.
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- Florida
What an adorable friendship.
[X] In the future, devote more time to your household and your family. (-1AP in future turns)
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- Europe
Its literally part of the vote and follows directly from it.
[] In the future, devote more time to your household and your family. (-1AP in future turns)
This is what has happened when we devoted time to our family. It is reasonable to assume that will continue.
This is me referencing how devoting our time to other social activities has benefited us. Also, following directly from the vote and my post.
You're wrong. They're costing us right now.
Every time we vote for a social action with them we could have voted to spend it with someone else. The vote just before this one was between a more in depth look at Hanyi or meeting our family first.
You think your Lex Luthor, but really you're Superman.
You think if we just leave our family alone that things will turn out fine, that we can afford to pull them along. But what happens when someone decides to kidnap them? Or enters a contract with Mom that fucks us over? Or turns our sister against us? Or poisons our family like almost happened to ZhenGui? Or uses the fact that we've got a prostitute mother and prostitute servants to discredit us on the social circuit?
You thinks that gonna be cheap to deal with? You think that's not a cost?
Get real. Our family is a weakness. Until we make them a strength that will always be the case.
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- United States
[X] While you will be present as much as you can, your household cannot be top priority yet. (Status quo)
I'm fine with spending plenty of time with family, but 1 AP every single turn is a bit much. She has friends and a liege to pay attention to as well.
I'm fine with spending plenty of time with family, but 1 AP every single turn is a bit much. She has friends and a liege to pay attention to as well.
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- He/Him
Thought I should actually give reactions now.
There we have the bluntness of a child and the worldliness of a spirit connected to Endings. She speaks the truth though. The purpose of Qingge's cultivation is that, unless Qi's own life is cut short, Qi and probably Biyy will outlive their mother by centuries. We wish to extend the time we have with our precious mother as far as we can manage, the paltry material cost doesn't matter.
Oof, finally the unspoken problems that Qi has with the taking the role of Mother for herself. I'm unsure what the details of this mental knot are, but this is something that should be handled sooner or later. Maybe Six can try to bring it up again later.
No, Biyu. Big Turtle. Super nice that Zhengui can be understood now, Biyu will like talking to him.
Zhengui, you have missed some serious shit. I know you just woke up, but Hanyi really needs you right now. Be her friend / brother / .... nephew I guess if Hanyi is a sister. That's been fucking with me since I made that connection.
Oof, even more qi strain, I don't think we would be advised to take a fourth spirit for quite a while unless it's a particularly notable one. I want to have our great reserves again.
I think both Hanyi's blunt criticism of her work ethic, and perhaps feeling the full power of TRF coursing through her body and making her more solid and unyielding than ever before in her life, made her go "fuck this, I am going to do my best for my daughters". Good to see this, kinda curious if Qi's observations of Qingge's spiritual leakage is only due to age.
On the vote, boy is that a tough goddamn sacrifice to make for family. It's really a lot of AP that will probably mostly cut into doing the lesser archive arts and the various housekeeping things we do like sect stuff and exploration maybe. I honestly can't decide right now, but I want to at least make a vote on this.
There we have the bluntness of a child and the worldliness of a spirit connected to Endings. She speaks the truth though. The purpose of Qingge's cultivation is that, unless Qi's own life is cut short, Qi and probably Biyy will outlive their mother by centuries. We wish to extend the time we have with our precious mother as far as we can manage, the paltry material cost doesn't matter.
Oof, finally the unspoken problems that Qi has with the taking the role of Mother for herself. I'm unsure what the details of this mental knot are, but this is something that should be handled sooner or later. Maybe Six can try to bring it up again later.
No, Biyu. Big Turtle. Super nice that Zhengui can be understood now, Biyu will like talking to him.
Zhengui, you have missed some serious shit. I know you just woke up, but Hanyi really needs you right now. Be her friend / brother / .... nephew I guess if Hanyi is a sister. That's been fucking with me since I made that connection.
Oof, even more qi strain, I don't think we would be advised to take a fourth spirit for quite a while unless it's a particularly notable one. I want to have our great reserves again.
I think both Hanyi's blunt criticism of her work ethic, and perhaps feeling the full power of TRF coursing through her body and making her more solid and unyielding than ever before in her life, made her go "fuck this, I am going to do my best for my daughters". Good to see this, kinda curious if Qi's observations of Qingge's spiritual leakage is only due to age.
On the vote, boy is that a tough goddamn sacrifice to make for family. It's really a lot of AP that will probably mostly cut into doing the lesser archive arts and the various housekeeping things we do like sect stuff and exploration maybe. I honestly can't decide right now, but I want to at least make a vote on this.
I legit don't see the point of this phrase
like if someone's using it as a criticism i will be happy to unironically have this conversation
[X] While you will be present as much as you can, your household cannot be top priority yet. (Status quo)
- One we made a commitment we should actually follow through it to the best of our capability.
- We are at the point in our lives where crunch time is the most important and since QM flat out told us our relationships are being maintained I would rather not believe he is lying as so many apparently are.
- I rate Ling Qingge the same as the other people we care about so if current time isn't enough for her it follows it also isn't enough for them upon which we are fucked so not voting as if it was true.
- In a narrative sense I am happy with how much screentime they have in comparison to Xiulan, Meizhen, Li Suyin, Su Ling, Cai and Hanyi/Zeqing so either the quest would be even slower or they should show up less neither which I am the slightest interested in.
- It would be pretty shitty to not focus on doing our best when Cai is under such pressure and I don't want Ling Qi to be that kind of person.
- The main problem which was not telling what we were doing is already being dealt with, had a big step this chapter even.
- Also got annoyed how the arguments of the other side boil down to fearmongering and wanting to have their cake and eat it too.
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If we take the cost to make family interaction a priority, we'll be in a wildly stronger emotional position than any of our Scion peers.
Meizhen and Cai have awful relationships with their families. That isn't a product of their strength, and I don't mean it as a cautionary example, it's just a factual observation.
We're trading action slots for the exotic 'resources' of family competence. We can speculate about how that can enpower, and shape Ling Qi, but a higher emotional intelligence is a solid expectation.
[X] In the future, devote more time to your household and your family. (-1AP in future turns)
Meizhen and Cai have awful relationships with their families. That isn't a product of their strength, and I don't mean it as a cautionary example, it's just a factual observation.
We're trading action slots for the exotic 'resources' of family competence. We can speculate about how that can enpower, and shape Ling Qi, but a higher emotional intelligence is a solid expectation.
[X] In the future, devote more time to your household and your family. (-1AP in future turns)
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- Europe
It was a reference.
To you even.
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To clarify, it was based on Superman always having to save his love interest/family/etc. At least in part because he doesn't put anywhere near the effort into keeping then safe as their kidnapping history would seem to require.
Luthor, on the other hand, made the more utilitarian decision of murdering his family (depending on continuity and for unrelated reasons).
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Well thats sillyIt was a reference.
To you even.
Id never consider myself superman.
Not in a million years
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- Canada
Yes? That doesn't have anything to do with making them "an useful resource" like you seem to think.
Even if we made her yellow a year earlier it wouldn't change anything, so us helping get to red doesn't help your point, especially when we did it without needing to invest AP.
Those social activities benefited us because we were interacting with people with their own individual power, our family can't compete with that, nor should they be expected to.
Generally when we vote for them it's to have them on screen, the opportunity cost is inconsequential as far as I can tell (feel free to give a concrete example of when it wasn't). So them even being an option is somehow costly in your mind and you solution to that is to spend 1 AP a turn on them... Yep, seems perfectly logical to me.
So I'm a good guy who think he's a bad guy? Thanks? Not really making much sense here buddy.
That's some insane level of paranoia, that's a nice try at fear mongering btw. For one we're not leaving our family alone... Things are just gonna stay the same as they are now (notice how we still got an event with them even though that's the case). How will spending time with them make it harder to kidnap them? Our mom isn't gonna get strong regardless of what we do and us spending the AP isn't training her, the increase in cultivation she'll gain will have marginal effects. Our mom isn't gonna pass anything important without our stamp on it, if someone was foolish enough to claim that our mortal clan member signature had any real value after they'd maliciously fooled them Cai would just make a call to the ministry and they'd get fucked. How do you figure someone will turn a toddler against us? If people want to kill them they'll just do it when we're not there... Discrediting them that way isn't gonna be changed by spending time with them.
So you're basically motivated by baseless fears? And again, your issue is that you seem to think that spending the 1 AP will magically fix issues, but you can't give any practical way to how any of it would be accomplished, you just have a vague notion that us doing this will have remove all their weaknesses, without having any concrete basis in reality for how that would be done.
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notanautomaton
I've got 99 quests, I've finished one
[X] While you will be present as much as you can, your household cannot be top priority yet. (Status quo)
[X] In the future, devote more time to your household and your family. (-1AP in future turns)
al103
Grumpy Russian Bear (SV edition)
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- Russia, Krasnoyarsk
[x] In the future, devote more time to your household and your family. (-1AP in future turns)
Though I hope it would be more than just "devote time" - like having our family meet our non-Bai friends for example (meaning more interaction with them too).
Though I hope it would be more than just "devote time" - like having our family meet our non-Bai friends for example (meaning more interaction with them too).
