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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

Investigate the Sea?

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Andres110 said:
When the High Council comes up I think we should lobby for evacuating the surrounding human polities. It will be difficult and won't be strategically optimal, but really I just want to do something properly heroic. The last and perhaps only time we've gone out and acted in someone else's favour out of altruism was during the Grand Conclave. 355 years and only once have we done a great charitable thing. I want to do more. We should do more.
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Hear hear.

Lets see with the 8 still standing in our region that makes 30 billion extra people.

We'd have to use Rids actions to screen em extensively, but **** it I'll take em, hopefully we don't add too much to the Trust's conservatives.

Minor remnants and Minor aliens on the other hands...sigh. Its probably non doable to evacuate all of them **** I don't think we have room for a combined 4.3 trillion people. Maybe the worlds of interest, but I do think we can offer 2 things minimum.

1. Guaranteed that if they fall then refugees can head our way.
2. More importantly, that they can send people to us now to ensure survival of their culture? This could be a few million people-billion people, maybe a squad or two of astartes/geneseed from the 7000 assorted ones around. Their job would be to ensure that if nothing else something of them survives. The aliens would likely need to come to Avernus or Jotunheim, but better that then go extinct.
 
Reynal said:
1) Between a bit short of the end of Lin's projected maximum lifespan and a hundred or two years after that. Given that it is an extremely high-risk endeavor they are going to be timing it to stack as many bonuses to their success chance as possible rather than based on external factors unrelated to its success chance.
2) Yes, but it wasn't specified if said healing would be effectively 'perfect' (leaving him with a normal or even extended human lifespan with all of his current powers) or if it might not be quite up to the ability to turn back the clock on the damage he's sustained.
3) No.
4) We could use a minor favor to ask for information relevant to the research from them. As things stand, we might do so but we might end up needing that favor for dealing with the Nids or the Orks. As we aren't doing the action immediately we haven't needed to prioritize between that.
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1. Basically, we need to pray the dice gods and/or trust Durin´s love to write epic situations with incredibly high Stakes. That or Hope that the Eldar can throw the T3 WAAGH! and the Tyranids into Nurgle´s domains.
2. Well, I think that we can trust in the ability of the Goddess of Healing, I mean is in her name.
4. The thing is that we already have a minor favor and we have like 6 turns to get more favors, so I think that we should do it
 
Researching Grav Fundamentals might actually be a pretty good idea. How do people feel about it? It boosts both the Gravitic Array and Graviton Weapons - Graviton Weapons are either awesome or useless vs nids.
 
Fanhunter696 said:
1. Basically, we need to pray the dice gods and/or trust Durin´s love to write epic situations with incredibly high Stakes. That or Hope that the Eldar can throw the T3 WAAGH! and the Tyranids into Nurgle´s domains.
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T4 actually.

The plan as I understand is throw the T4 at Vect as planned, but implicate Nurgle causing Slaanesh to go after it, while driving a Nid swarm into the Exalted pursing the concordant.

AlsoSprachOdin said:
How many lives does the average Divination of Eldar Choice save in the long run?
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I dunno, depends on the divination.

Thing is Rid's is epic, his free divination is always free and can't be used for checking refugees, so even at our lowest we're almost always going to be able to devote a divination to their purposes.

Hell its rare we can get to use the free one on one of our enemies.
 
Shard said:
Researching Grav Fundamentals might actually be a pretty good idea. How do people feel about it? It boosts both the Gravitic Array and Graviton Weapons - Graviton Weapons are either awesome or useless vs nids.
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If it helps with the programming I am all for it. I consider Gravity to be a very promising field where Trust should be able to keep up with the major powers, if not as much of our speciality as warptech.

I cosider Trusts research priorities to be warptech (includes psybiotech), gravitics, and low hanging fruit in that order.
 
Durin said:
its more about group planning against the Nids
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@Durin
1. Does that mean we can inquire about a poison, and provide the info on what the Nynye think and want to the council, or does it mean we should just wait?
2. While likely utterly impractical to evacuate the greater remnants, around what's the viability of convincing them to send us, effectively a group of people to try and preserve their culture (and in the case of the minor aliens) their species?
3. Actually that is a point, how many people does the trust think it could support at its current capacity?
 
Doomed Wombat said:
@Durin
1. Does that mean we can inquire about a poison, and provide the info on what the Nynye think and want to the council, or does it mean we should just wait?
2. While likely utterly impractical to evacuate the greater remnants, around what's the viability of convincing them to send us, effectively a group of people to try and preserve their culture (and in the case of the minor aliens) their species?
3. Actually that is a point, how many people does the trust think it could support at its current capacity?
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1. you can inquire and provide info but no futher
2. low, the groups left are fiercely independent and utterly paranoid
3. not sure, more then you can transport without crashing your economy
 
@Shard - I would much rather we do Fundamentals (Gravitics would probably be a best choice, though Psychic Cannon would be also useful/interesting, and Juvenat could also help) rather than Gravitic Array Programming, since that action would only help if enemy reaches Helheim system. Never mind that Gravitic Fundamentals could help with it as well.
 
DeusFerreus said:
@Shard - I would much rather we do Fundamentals (Gravitics would probably be a best choice, though Psychic Cannon would be also useful/interesting, and Juvenat could also help) rather than Gravitic Array Programming, since that action would only help if enemy reaches Helheim system. Never mind that Gravitic Fundamentals could help with it as well.
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That action is the first step towards making programs for other systems.

And with Rids support, we will know where we will be fighting well in advance.
 
Have amended to not asking Areatha on the basis that it would piss the Trust off; Asking Lamia to help forge contacts instead.

Fundamentals (Gravitics) as opposed to Gravitic Array Programming is still an open question; Fundamentals (Gravitic) takes 6 Years and has a 52% success rate before rerolls.

e: DD'ed Gravitic Array has 34% for comparison.
 
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Shard said:
Fundamentals (Gravitics) as opposed to Gravitic Array Programming is still an open question; Fundamentals (Gravitic) takes 6 Years and has a 52% success rate before rerolls.
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Oh shit, 6 years? Damn it. Ok, pick whatever it takes so that we get Fundamentals Psychic Cannon earlier. We need it for the next daemonic incursion and abomination crusade. Also to fuck up the tyranid hive mind on the ground.
 
Piren'e Colass said:
Is the psychic cannon anything to do with the grey Knights psycannons?
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No. It's a Nova Cannon-scale gun. If it hits a daemonship, it's banished to the warp, no saves allowed. If it hits tyranids, it disrupts the hive mind, no saves allowed. If it hits anything else, massive penalties to stats across the board, no saves allowed. It's an amazing piece of tech.
 
Uh, I thought one of the Data Jewels gave us a bunch of info on Gravitics, giving both a percentage bonus *and* a reduction in the time spent on Fundamentals (Gravitics).

Ah, here: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) | Page 4650
Durin said:
Dark Age Gravity Theorems (+30 to rolls to gain Gravity based Fundamentals and half required time)
One of the Data-Jewels found on Deiphobe contains a scientific database containing a massive amount of theoretical information about gravity, including both proven facts and a wide range of theories with some level of supporting evidence, which is also included. While not immediately useful Tranth tells you that this information will give him a massive advantage on any attempts to studying the fundamentals of any gravity based technology.
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Mind, I'm not sure what the normal time on Gravitics is so...

EDIT: Going to sleep now, so by the time I am back many pages will pass. Nighty night.
 
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@Durin

1. I remember you saying that to get a rune to work on a Nova Cannon, it'd either require an Alpha psyker constantly powering it or for the rune to be made of high grade wraithbone-tier material. What would it cost for the eldar to supply us with enough of that material for one rune?
2. We should've gotten the Ordinatus Armaggedon/Oberon from the tech trade, which bears a Nova Cannon. In order to build a Nova Cannon (without Ordinatus) in one of our hives, would it require a Munitorum Implement action?

EDIT: To clarify, this is to get a Banish Nova Cannon ready in case of a daemonic incursion.
 
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@Enjou @Shard
Would you be willing to switch Implement: Psychic Canon to Implement: Advanced Singularity Thrusters? Additional survivability for our Escorts is probably more important than an anti-Daemonship weapon.
 
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