.....So because he used bold letters he can be called a fear monger for having a concern like you did?

Also the idea of a terribly wounded digimon holding a grudge against the one who wounded him being "pure speculation" is exaggerated to say the least.
it is speculation at this point since we don't know how he'd see Verge sparing him, not everybody holds grudges like that so it's a massive assumption that Chackmon would right off the bat.
 
[X] Step aside, making Sparks's attack miss.
-[X] No Sparks... What would Flamemon think if he could see us right now?

Dunno if Drex is counting the dialogue subvotes but just in case. Because I really don't think the Fugamon example will move Sparks, thats a HAPPY memory to him. And I don't recall Verge IC dwelling on the while cycle of revenge thing with Dinohumon.

On the other paw, Flamemon raised Sparks too. And Chackmon REALLY reminds me of Flamemon. Thr attitude and the whole "For Justice!" Vibe. No way Sparks wont notice if we bring it up.

Also... kinda feel like thr host is reeeeeally in the wrong here
 
No Sparks... What would Flamemon think if he could see us right now?
That might actually backfire, Sparks is still of the opinion that Flamon was in the wrong, and hasn't really been shown any concrete proof otherwise.

I do like the reasoning, but Sparks isn't really reasonable when it comes to Flamemon's death and the perceived cause of it.
 
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[X] Have mercy, he's in pain and won't last much longer. End him yourself
-[X] Before you strike apologise and wish him a better life in his next.

Yeah no fucking this up.
Chackmon can get away any time, this is a digimon with a a body made of shapeshifted snow. They absolutely COULD shift to mobility and flee.
If we want mercy, we have to bring it by our own hand.

The Host has little mercy.
Sparks...Sparks would probably make it slow. And we can't have that either.
 
Idunno, it just feels like a REALLY important character moment.

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He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster . . . when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss also gazes into you

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The only thing necessary for the triumph ofevil is for good men to do nothing.


A Legendary warrior stood up to fight for justice and was cut down, outnumbered and alone. Am I speaking of Chackmon or Agnimon? And remember, this is not just shaping Verge, Sparks needs our help so he doesn't become a monster like the Count.

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Also... the Hero died last time. But we get to choose how the story ends THIS TIME.
 
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[X] Step aside, making Sparks's attack miss.
-[X] No Sparks. Remember Fugamon... and Dinohumon that came after.
-[X] We'll take him prisoner, as the leader of this Polar Defense Force he must know something...
 
Where are you people getting this idea that he's a leader of anything?

[X] Have mercy, he's in pain and won't last much longer. End him yourself
-[X] Before you strike apologise and wish him a better life in his next.
 
We have been bequeathed the blessed mission of deleting a false idol. The *Legendary Warrior* Chackmons's death will serve as an example to the foolishness of siding against our most holy cause and deal a massive blow to the pagans' morale!"
One other thing worth considering.

Unlike other times when we've had the option to spare someone, this time the orders we got explicitly said to kill them rather than just defeat them.
Digital world, asskicking equals authority.
But he still calls himself a Member rather than the Leader. He's strong, but he is still only a Champion. The actual leader of the group is probably an Ultimate, maybe even a Mega.

Especially since he's a member of the Ice related forces, but he's here hanging out with the Wind related forces. If he was a leader there would probably be plenty of other Ice digimon here too.
 
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Where are you people getting this idea that he's a leader of anything?

[X] Have mercy, he's in pain and won't last much longer. End him yourself
-[X] Before you strike apologize and wish him a better life in his next.
He's a legendary warrior in a presumably Ten worshiping faction, it's a good probability tbh.
 
It is so Verge of this thread to just assume the Polar Defense Force is an actual thing when it is written on Chackmons wiki entry that it is something he made up as some sort of Chuuni fantasy.

Even the thread takes everything anymon says literally :D:D:D
 
Unlike other times when we've had the option to spare someone, this time the orders we got explicitly said to kill them rather than just defeat them.
Honestly... that only makes me want to spare him more.

MagnaAngemon has rubbed me the wrong way for awhile now. Also think about this, his reasoning about no mercy because #WAR not only rubbed Verge wrong... it did so with Bold White Text. Aka Yggdrassil/Royal Knight text.

How much of an asshole are you when YGGDRASSIL of all things thinks you're going too far?!
 
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[X] Have mercy, he's in pain and won't last much longer. End him yourself
-[X] Before you strike apologise and wish him a better life in his next.

Even if he has useful information, it doesn't guarantee that we will be able to contain him long enough for us to gain anything out of it.

As much as I dislike the idea of deleting a digimon that seems to have good intentions, the risk of him getting away and us gaining a reputation for sparing enemy LWs would put us in a rocky relationship with the faction that we work for. Which could potentially become an issue, since we rely on their resources in order for us to become strong enough to carry out our revenge and that pit is completely loyal to them.
 
[X] Step aside, making Sparks's attack miss.
-[X] No Sparks... What would Flamemon think if he could see us right now?

Got to agree, this one makes more sense and still ends up doing what the first mercy vote wants. As this can only really lead to one outcome.
 
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[X] Have mercy, he's in pain and won't last much longer. End him yourself
-[X] Before you strike apologise and wish him a better life in his next.
 
Honestly... that only makes me want to spare him more.

MagnaAngemon has rubbed me the wrong way for awhile now. Also think about this, his reasoning about no mercy because #WAR not only rubbed Verge wrong... it did so with Bold White Text. Aka Yggdrassil/Royal Knight text.

How much of an asshole are you when YGGDRASSIL of all things thinks you're going too far?!
I get what you mean, but its also worth considering that trying to spare him means directly going against orders, which would put us in a very bad place. The Host probably punishes that quite severely.
 
That might actually backfire, Sparks is still of the opinion that Flamon was in the wrong, and hasn't really been shown any concrete proof otherwise.

I do like the reasoning, but Sparks isn't really reasonable when it comes to Flamemon's death and the perceived cause of it.
Maybe, but he does respect Verge's faith in such and it could also go the other way and start to bring back the spark he had as a rookie before our friend died.

As if there is anyone that could bring that back out with Sparks, it is Verge and him trying to continue the ideal of their fallen friend.

I get what you mean, but its also worth considering that trying to spare him means directly going against orders, which would put us in a very bad place. The Host probably punishes that quite severely.
True, but doing one good thing followed up by a bad thing seems to be a theme with us and the Host.

One that keeps on doing good for us going by our history, while making the Host weird around us.
 
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It is so Verge of this thread to just assume the Polar Defense Force is an actual thing when it is written on Chackmons wiki entry that it is something he made up as some sort of Chuuni fantasy.

Even the thread takes everything anymon says literally :D:D:D
Yes! I've been waiting ages for someone to finally make this connection!:lol:rofl:
 
Honestly, I feel that trying to take him captive is the best option we've got. He's a valuable source of intelligence, and he's been beaten soundly. He's also terrified out of his mind, and frankly that should be bringing back some memories for Verge. Deletion here isn't a mercy, it's just an execution.

squish
 
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Honestly, I feel that trying to take him captive is the best option we've got. He's a valuable source of intelligence, and he's been beaten soundly. He's also terrified out of his mind, and frankly that should be bringing back some memories for Verge. Deletion here isn't a mercy, it's just an execution.
Agreed, though I do think we would have better luck doing such by using Flame in our reasoning with Sparks then by using a example of enemies we swore to kill with Sparks.

Since in hindsight I can't really see doing anything but sending really weird messages to Sparks and possibly make him think we might go soft against the others if they beg at the end. An that does not seem like it would go over well.
 
Agreed, though I do think we would have better luck doing such by using Flame in our reasoning with Sparks then by using a example of enemies we swore to kill with Sparks.
Again, it comes down to Sparks still being enraged at Flamemon ("How dare he die!") and making him unreasonable. Using Flamemon as our justification is more likely to make him take a second shot, or go on a furious rant.
 
Again, it comes down to Sparks still being enraged at Flamemon ("How dare he die!") and making him unreasonable. Using Flamemon as our justification is more likely to make him take a second shot, or go on a furious rant.
Ok, but even if we go with that worst case with Flame, why do you think using a example for mercy using enemies we swore to kill for crimes against our village and family would produce a better reaction and not a worst one?

Doesn't that seem kind of weird to you?

As sure using Flame might cause a bad result, but using Fugomon and friend will do it no question.

Or am I missing something and can you explain to me why Sparks would be more likely to give a positive reaction to them over Flame?
 
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Or am I missing something and can you explain to me why Sparks would be more likely to give a positive reaction to them over Flame?
Because we're bringing it up due to practicality. Killing Fugamon caused Dinohumon to swear our destruction. Chackmon probably has friends and loved ones too, or even a caretaker. So they'll want to take down Verge. At the least, I expect Vortex Isle to place a bounty on Verge as well.
 
Because we're bringing it up due to practicality. Killing Fugamon caused Dinohumon to swear our destruction. Chackmon probably has friends and loved ones too, or even a caretaker. So they'll want to take down Verge. At the least, I expect Vortex Isle to place a bounty on Verge as well.
Ok, but your plan feels more like your trying for a emotional persuasion rather then a intellectual one. Also going for a intellectual argument takes time and with Sparks already with his blood up and moving in for the kill, I can't see that really working well or fast enough in this case.

Also, even if Sparks does take time to think on our words with your example, he can very easily counter on a practical level that kind of fallout can happen with any mon. Since almost anyone can have friends and loved ones, so why does this one matter when the others we killed and will kill in the future might not?

Where is the line and why should he care when he can remove threats to those he cares about now and get stronger or help us get stronger so we can save our family faster?
 
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