Metal Gear Solid V: Chronicles of Outer Heaven (MGS/Valkyria Chronicles)

Kept you waiting huh?

  • WHAT TOOK YOU SO LONG!?

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  • WELCOME BACK BOSS!

    Votes: 387 63.9%
  • BRING BACK THE CAT GIRLS ALREADY!

    Votes: 141 23.3%

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I'm sorry, what? We're a PMC, not an industrialized nation. We DO NOT have the production capabilities to repair or maintain a walking tank like the Sahelanthropus, especially because of the DU armor. That shit only started being introduced on Abrams in 1998, a full DECADE after this date.

No, we do not have the capability to just repair Sahelanthropus with what is most definitely prototype tech right now.

Except we do.

It's an option.

It's right there in the option's list.

Fuck apparently Huey was able to do it on his own, in secret in canon.
 
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Sahelanthropus is just a tool.

Yes it can turn a battle but the MLRS could just as easy. Or a modern tank. Or a helicopter fitted out as a gunship.

Just because it's big and a mech doesn't make it any more or less impressive then any of those units. In fact I'd strip it for parts to make sure we had any number of those.

it's very much more impressive than any of those things.
 
Most of the impressive stuff it did? Was not under its own power. It required a telepath to get it moving like that.

no it required the psychic child to pilot it.

Said psychic was probably also the reason it could jump literally miles on occasion.

but other than that we have no reason to believe that it was performing any better than it would under any other pilot it.
 
Except we do.

It's an option.

It's right there in the option's list.

Fuck apparently Huey was able to do it on his own, in secret in canon.
"After Mother Base's destruction, Huey went underground. He was eventually absorbed into XOF's ranks, being made chief engineer for a new Metal Gear that was being developed in Afghanistan. The Soviet Union financed and supplied resources for the project, leading Huey to believe he was working for the Soviets rather than Cipher."
Taken from the Metal Gear Wikia.
Sure did it on his own. As for the repair option... okay it's feasible because Kode deemed it within DDog's capabilities, however, right now we have much bigger fish to fry and just because we can repair it now doesn't mean we can do that in VC-land. Just keep that in mind.
 
no it required the psychic child to pilot it.

Said psychic was probably also the reason it could jump literally miles on occasion.

but other than that we have no reason to believe that it was performing any better than it would under any other pilot it.
That raises another point, sticking a child into this fucking walking WMD. We've established a narrative of being a hero so far, employing child soldiers is not an option under that narrative. Hell, HAVING a walking WMD is very questionable considering our current course of action.
 
That raises another point, sticking a child into this fucking walking WMD. We've established a narrative of being a hero so far, employing child soldiers is not an option under that narrative. Hell, HAVING a walking WMD is very questionable considering our current course of action.


You realize we can research AI's and are recovering an intact AI pod to study this turn right?

we aren't skull face, we can just stick an AI pod in there.

Also if we aren't using the nuclear option i'm not sure If I would class Sahelanthropus as a WMD.

its very destructive but it can wipe out a city in moments or anything like that.

You can use a metal gear and still be heroic.

"After Mother Base's destruction, Huey went underground. He was eventually absorbed into XOF's ranks, being made chief engineer for a new Metal Gear that was being developed in Afghanistan. The Soviet Union financed and supplied resources for the project, leading Huey to believe he was working for the Soviets rather than Cipher."
Taken from the Metal Gear Wikia.
Sure did it on his own. As for the repair option... okay it's feasible because Kode deemed it within DDog's capabilities, however, right now we have much bigger fish to fry and just because we can repair it now doesn't mean we can do that in VC-land. Just keep that in mind.

I'm not talking about talking about that, After you destroy it the big fight at the end of chapter one, Huey secretly repairs it while on mother base.

He atleast managed to make it battle ready again working on his own and in secret.

It then gets jacked by Eli and psycho mantis when they break away from Diamond Dog's and make their little "Kingdom of the flies."

Edit: Looking at the wiki apparently Huey was Help by Eli and his child soldiers... but its not like a bunch of child soldiers we're gonna Robotics genius or have access to cutting edge technology.

So yeah, it can be repaired by one robotics engineer and a bunch of child soldier's.... its absurdly easy.
 
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It's out of character for Miller to beat the shit out of a kid.

Canonically, The eli situation got as bad as it did because Miller was too soft on him.
Oh god, we need to rectify that then.
+lmaos+

Only Venom and Ocelot had spanked him, and Venom was with the Boss' imprint of disliking the children born out of LET.

Anyway, I forgot. Did Mantis give the vocal chord parasite sample to Eli after the first or the second outbreak?
 
Amanda blinks her eyes, thrice she flutters her eyes trying to blink away the spots in her eyes, forcing herself to bull through the blooming headache taking the back of her brain by surprise, she groans as she brings a hand to her eyes and sighs.

Word redundancy. Needs to be broken up into sentences.

She glares at her desk, at all the fucking paperwork sprawled on it before huffing, slamming the pen on the table, the sound drawing the eye of every other person in the room, and standing up in one fluid motion.

Same issue with the commas.


Actually liked it enough to be generous here despite having to power through it after the first 2 paragraphentences.. 1 CP get.


Omake HAM Ops #2-1 (Money Is Delicious)
Omake HAM Ops #2-2 (Food Is Power!)


4CP + 4 Bullet Dodges~

Did see a few errors from your sleep addled brain though :p


Big Boss and DD VS the Legendary Brown Bear
Comedy Version

Silly Boss is silly. Have 2 CP.


2 CP and a bullet dodge get.

Yes, I'm handing out CP like candy as the reward for our current, ridiculous progress despite only being 2 turns in :V

There was a paragraph early on that had an abundant comma problem tho.

A Tangled Web of Reality and Fiction

Huey has problems, but he nets you a CP. Felt like some words were missing here and there, but overall good effort.

Also a bit of redundancy regarding some of Huey's phrases.


You're my wonderwall~



Early on there's a missed apostrophe, and you didn't put a space between one of the words.

Then it got cutesy and the only thing I really noticed that annoyed me were the overly large paragraphs that can be broken down a bit more.

2 CP get and relevant Omake Ops Bonus.

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Alright, you guys got 6 actions for this turn.

Care to impress me and try for 7?

I'm being seriously lenient here so it's probably doable :V
 
You realize we can research AI's and are recovering an intact AI pod to study this turn right?

we aren't skull face, we can just stick an AI pod in there.

Also if we aren't using the nuclear option i'm not sure If I would class Sahelanthropus as a WMD.

its very destructive but it can wipe out a city in moments or anything like that.

You can use a metal gear and still be heroic.



I'm not talking about talking about that, After you destroy it the big fight at the end of chapter one, Huey secretly repairs it while on mother base.

He atleast managed to make it battle ready again working on his own and in secret.

It then gets jacked by Eli and psycho mantis when they break away from Diamond Dog's and make their little "Kingdom of the flies."

Edit: Looking at the wiki apparently Huey was Help by Eli and his child soldiers... but its not like a bunch of child soldiers we're gonna Robotics genius or have access to cutting edge technology.

So yeah, it can be repaired by one robotics engineer and a bunch of child soldier's.... its absurdly easy.
Which really doesn't make sense, but this is MGSV I guess. Historically the SU wasn't able to get DU armor like that of US'.
 
[X]Plan Stormfront
-[X] Main Ops 2: Investigating Huey (AI Pod Recovery)
-[X] Side Ops 3: No Son of Mine
-[X] Side Ops 4: Let's Talk Huey *New Game+*
-[X] Side Ops 7: A Moment of Quiet
-[X] Side Ops 9: Denuclearization 2 "No Tomorrow"
-[X] R&D 4: Ballistic Vests

EDIT: Unrelated to plan, but I am imagining some VC politicos trying to spin the fact that Meticulous Boss has low number of people, despite being so good, only for Sahelantropus to descend through a Wormhole, as DD FOX agents give one-fingered salutes to the politicos.

Also, Sahelantropus only needs Mantis for the upright mode, doesn't it? Or am I remembering it wrong and it needs Mantis all the way to even move while crouched?

EDIT^2: Oh, and the Pod also contains the recording of Strangelove admitting that she only used Huey to make a baby that she can instill Joy's meme on, right?
 
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I'm just imagining Sahelanthropus wading into enemy battle line and carefully flipping over every tank, one by one, until they are all threads up, like demented turtles after demented turtle-flipper passed.
Version B is partial reprise of "Where Bees Sleep" - fog/dust storm, visibility zero, tank column slows down, terrifying screams and sounds not quite unlike fog horn. Then fog/dust storm passes and all tanks in the column are flipped, and no one knows how, why or what. Just some remember giant leg or giant arm suddenly passing by.

And I am sad now that we aren't supporting kurds more.
 
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Probably can drop Quiet's Side-Ops for other stuff, perhaps even stuff that can help the Denuking more? I dunno.
 
Probably can drop Quiet's Side-Ops for other stuff, perhaps even stuff that can help the Denuking more? I dunno.

no, quiet is important.

Also we need to do the quiet interrogation so miller doesn't fuck it up.

Because its gonna happen no matter what, taking the option just means we have control.
 
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no, quiet is important.

Also we need to do the quiet interrogation so miller doesn't fuck it up.

Because its gonna happen no matter what taking the option just means we have control.
+shrugs+
I am of the opinion A Moment of Quiet can work as a stand-in for the Interrogation, with Miller being less intense this time around.

Well, I hope.
 
looking back at the refugee option:
>Every 100 man strong Working Party will allow you to take a building action, but not have that action be slotted for however many turns it takes to build the building in question

We need this
. Given our choices for specialization, any bit that frees up action slots for us is a massive boon. It'd probably be best to start with this early, in fact.
 
Right, with that extra dice the "Truth" plan needs to get updated.

[X]Plan The Truth Will Out (Toughened)
-[X] Emergency Ops 1: A Quiet Interrogation
-[X] Main Ops 2: Investigating Huey (AI Pod Recovery)
-[X] Side Ops 3: No Son of Mine
-[X] Side Ops 9: Denuclearization 2 "No Tomorrow"
-[X] Side Ops 4: Let's Talk Huey *New Game+*
-[X] R&D 4: Ballistic Vests

IIRC Ballistic Vests was what the agreed-on extra action would be for this plan.


looking back at the refugee option:
>Every 100 man strong Working Party will allow you to take a building action, but not have that action be slotted for however many turns it takes to build the building in question

We need this
. Given our choices for specialization, any bit that frees up action slots for us is a massive boon. It'd probably be best to start with this early, in fact.

I agree wholeheartedly, and if this turn wasn't so packed with Stuff I'd be campaigning more for it. Next time though it's definitely going to be something I'd vote for no matter what.
Adhoc vote count started by Dr. Snark on Oct 12, 2018 at 1:33 AM, finished with 408 posts and 39 votes.

  • [X]Plan The Truth Will Out
    -[X] Emergency Ops 1: A Quiet Interrogation
    -[X] Main Ops 2: Investigating Huey (AI Pod Recovery)
    -[X] Side Ops 3: No Son of Mine
    -[X] Side Ops 9: Denuclearization 2 "No Tomorrow"
    -[X] Side Ops 4: Let's Talk Huey *New Game+*
    [X]Plan I want A Man on Fire Boss fight.
    -[X] Emergency Ops 1: A Quiet Interrogation
    -[X] Main Ops 2: Investigating Huey (AI Pod Recovery)
    -[X] Side Ops 3: No Son of Mine
    -[X] Side Ops 9: Denuclearization 2 "No Tomorrow"
    -[X] R&D 4: Ballistic Vests
    [X]Plan The Truth Will Out

    -[X] Emergency Ops 1: A Quiet Interrogation

    -[X] Main Ops 2: Investigating Huey (AI Pod Recovery)

    -[X] Side Ops 3: No Son of Mine

    -[X] Side Ops 9: Denuclearization 2 "No Tomorrow"

    -[X] Side Ops 4: Let's Talk Huey *New Game+*
    [X] Plan Stormfront
    -[X] Main Ops 2: Investigating Huey (AI Pod Recovery)
    -[X] Side Ops 3: No Son of Mine
    -[X] Side Ops 4: Let's Talk Huey *New Game+*
    -[X] Side Ops 7: A Moment of Quiet
    -[X] Side Ops 9: Denuclearization 2 "No Tomorrow"
    -[X] R&D 4: Ballistic Vests
    [X]Plan The Truth Will Out (Toughened)
    -[X] Emergency Ops 1: A Quiet Interrogation
    -[X] Main Ops 2: Investigating Huey (AI Pod Recovery)
    -[X] Side Ops 3: No Son of Mine
    -[X] Side Ops 9: Denuclearization 2 "No Tomorrow"
    -[X] Side Ops 4: Let's Talk Huey *New Game+*
    -[X] R&D 4: Ballistic Vests
    [X]Plan The Truth Will Out (Toughened)
    -[X] Emergency Ops 1: A Quiet Interrogation
    -[X] Main Ops 2: Investigating Huey (AI Pod Recovery)
    -[X] Side Ops 3: No Son of Mine
    -[X] Side Ops 9: Denuclearization 2 "No Tomorrow"
    -[X] Side Ops 4: Let's Talk Huey *New Game+*
    -[X] R&D 4: Ballistic Vests
    [X]Plan The Truth Will Out

    -[X] Emergency Ops 1: A Quiet Interrogation
    -[X] Main Ops 2: Investigating Huey (AI Pod Recovery)
    -[X] Side Ops 3: No Son of Mine
    -[X] Side Ops 9: Denuclearization 2 "No Tomorrow"
    -[X] Side Ops 4: Let's Talk Huey *New Game+*
    [X]Plan Surviving the Odds
    -[X] Side Ops 7: A Moment of Quiet
    -[X] Side Ops 3: No Son of Mine
    -[X] Side Ops 9: Denuclearization 2 "No Tomorrow"
    -[X] Side Ops 4: Let's Talk Huey *New Game+*
    -[X] R&D 4: Ballistic Vests
 
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[X]Plan The Truth Will Out (Toughened)
-[X] Emergency Ops 1: A Quiet Interrogation
-[X] Main Ops 2: Investigating Huey (AI Pod Recovery)
-[X] Side Ops 3: No Son of Mine
-[X] Side Ops 9: Denuclearization 2 "No Tomorrow"
-[X] Side Ops 4: Let's Talk Huey *New Game+*
-[X] R&D 4: Ballistic Vests
 
[X]Plan The Truth Will Out (Toughened)
-[X] Emergency Ops 1: A Quiet Interrogation
-[X] Main Ops 2: Investigating Huey (AI Pod Recovery)
-[X] Side Ops 3: No Son of Mine
-[X] Side Ops 9: Denuclearization 2 "No Tomorrow"
-[X] Side Ops 4: Let's Talk Huey *New Game+*
-[X] R&D 4: Ballistic Vests

Vote chenged
 
Wait does this mean we need to change our votes now to account for the extra actions?
What does that mean for the ones who already voted before then?


If so... Here's my updated vote I guess.

[X]Plan The Truth Will Out (Toughened)
-[X] Emergency Ops 1: A Quiet Interrogation
-[X] Main Ops 2: Investigating Huey (AI Pod Recovery)
-[X] Side Ops 3: No Son of Mine
-[X] Side Ops 9: Denuclearization 2 "No Tomorrow"
-[X] Side Ops 4: Let's Talk Huey *New Game+*
-[X] R&D 4: Ballistic Vests
 
Particularly because it's rail gun is one of the few real answers we have to a naval bombardment.
Mother base is a stationary base built on an oil rig. It is pretty much a sitting duck if anybody gets to it. A naval engagement with a srsface naval task group is going to end up with us in the water in very short order, regardless of how powerful Sahelanthropus' railgun is. This is the era of people firing shells from beyond the visual horizon. We've got one Sahelanthropus - that's not enough to fight off a fleet by itself.

The way to not get hit by a srsface navy is to make sure we don't blatantly* become a nuisance enough for the Federation and the Empire to send srsface navies at us instead of at each other. Not by having Sahelanthropus.


*This means we need to S-rank stealth every mission, or if we end up going loud, then we kill everyone and sanitise the battlefield. :V Nobody can report Diamond Dogs curbstomped them if there's nobody around to report.
 
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