Status
Not open for further replies.
That cartoon is stupid if taken seriously. Being literally able to affect anything that lives in the water doesn't make sense because "things that live in water" is a category that includes things that aren't very related and are more closely related to other things. It's like having a power "can only be used on things that were bought on sale".
It's magic. Like Swamp Thing's connection to the Green.

Hmm. I said it before but Plasticman being all-powerful strikes me as Squirrel-girl tier joke-character wank. He can stretch but how strong is he? How resistant to heat/cold?

If temperature extremes are his weakness then a laser-gun could kill him.



Plastic Man versus Fernus The Burning. Yep, he's definitely fire resistant. He's immune to telepathy too.

He's nigh-indestructible, capable of surviving thousands of years on the ocean floor as scattered fragments. You can blow him up, stab him, cut off his head, do pretty much anything without permanently harming him.
 
Last edited:
Also, Cthulhu was imprisoned underwater. There's not much sign that he's a water creature, August Derleth notwithstanding.
What? Pretty sure he put R'lyeh in the ocean by choice, he wasn't imprisoned there. Where did you get that idea? Going by the original "Call of C'thulhu" book, he's just in a natural hibernation state. No one put him there except him.
 
Last edited:
He's indestructible even by the standards of the League. Yes, there are some things that can kill him that wouldn't kill Superman, but not many, and they're pretty absurd things (Like Omega Beams). He's immune to physical trauma, and heat might stop him for a time but it won't actually injure him. If you literally vaporize him you might stop him for a bit, but not permanently or even for all that long.
Not necessarily on Earth 16™.

But more seriously, Greg Weisman and Zoat have tuned down this setting from general DC immensely. For example, I think Superman flies slower than Kid Flash runs, who is only about as fast as the speed of sound. Compared to most other incarnations, this is hilariously low. I don't think saying that Plastic Man can be atomized and still survive in the main DC continuity has any bearing on what happens in this one.
 
Not necessarily on Earth 16™.

But more seriously, Greg Weisman and Zoat have tuned down this setting from general DC immensely. For example, I think Superman flies slower than Kid Flash runs, who is only about as fast as the speed of sound. Compared to most other incarnations, this is hilariously low. I don't think saying that Plastic Man can be atomized and still survive in the main DC continuity has any bearing on what happens in this one.
That only holds true when talking about regular superheroes. Strangely, all things Hellblazer seem to keep the exact same power level.

Quick, is there a Constantine/Plastic Man crossover that we can use to justify his power level?
 
Canon "Aquababy" was murdered via asphyxiation.
I'm assuming that you mean 'Earth 1 canon' because Prince Artur was alive and well in series two.
Anyone know a reasonable way to extend the length of time Aquababy can survive out of water? For example, could Sephtian, Zatanna, John Constantine, and Cornwall Boy combine their magicks to make Aquababy fully amphibious via biomancy?
He's a Pureblood, so he can already survive indefinitely.
Can Atlanteans be safely Dannered or Garricked? Given the loyalty of Poseidonis military and citizenship, I can picture dozens of volunteers if they knew it meant helping Arthur Junior live a long and happy life. And just imagine the parental horror of having a speedster toddler.
The SI doesn't know, but suspects not.
Others:
=As a royal family, do Atlanteans insist on "an heir and a spare"? Queen Mera gave birth in February and its now April, so I figure the Poseidonis nobility/bureaucracy will wait at least six months before they start dropping suggestions about having a second child.
This is funny. You'll find out why later.
=With OL helping the Amazons get pregnant, I'm surprised he hasn't been trapped in an elevator or traffic jam and forced to help deliver a child.
It's very difficult to trap the SI somewhere.
One thing is for sure though: Paul is the strongest person in the room right now.
Actually, sans power armour he's probably the weakest.
 


Plastic Man is one of the better investigators in the League. He's a jokester and plays the fool, but he'snot as stupid as he portrays himself. (Still not the brightest, and that's one of his flaws, but he's not as stupid as he comes across)

He's immune to telepathy / psionic attack due to the nature of his shapeshifting. His brain just shifts and changes constantly to the point of being functionally eldritch.

He's indestructible even by the standards of the League. Yes, there are some things that can kill him that wouldn't kill Superman, but not many, and they're pretty absurd things (Like Omega Beams). He's immune to physical trauma, and heat might stop him for a time but it won't actually injure him. If you literally vaporize him you might stop him for a bit, but not permanently or even for all that long. Cold is the only real way to take him down in any lasting capacity, and even then it isn't great. He has absolute control over his molecular / atomic structure, as in every atom of his body is technically a part of his consciousness and can be controlled individually. The "scattered throughout the ocean for thousands of years and put himself back together" feat isn't hyperbole.

He's very strong, but exactly how strong varies immensely, you'd have to ask Zoat for a more specific guestimate as to his strength. Probably not Superman level, likely topping out at Wonder Woman / Aquaman level. On top of his absolutely bullshit tier shapeshifting.

The only things he could conceivably have to work on are his 'vulnerability' to magic and cold. Oh, and being utterly atomized and scattered across the planet or further or being dropped into a black hole or non-existence rays. Y'know, weaknesses totally unique and specific to him.

It's magic. Like Swamp Thing's connection to the Green.





Plastic Man versus Fernus The Burning. Yep, he's definitely fire resistant. He's immune to telepathy too.

He's nigh-indestructible, capable of surviving thousands of years on the ocean floor as scattered fragments. You can blow him up, stab him, cut off his head, do pretty much anything without permanently harming him.
So... Just that we are clear.

His name 'Plastic Man' is completely misinformative and/or misleading, and he isn't actually plastic?
 
Seriously. All of the super strong characters are stronger than he is and the non-super strong ones have notably more muscle mass.
I realize, it's just that I used the wrong word (strong) when I actually meant that he could take them in a fight.
Like how Kon and Donna immediately said that Paul is the best in a fight.

It all depends on the circumstances as Paul tried to say in that Themyscira segment, but still.

I noticed what you did and I assume that he did as well.
I assume that was an 'M'kay' while rolling eyes at Zoats tomfoolery.
E: Pedantry was probably the wrong word, I changed it.
Yes I did.
 
Last edited:
This may have been addressed already, but I'm not getting anywhere with the search function and there are far too many pages to go through manually:

When Graven gave up his orange ring and battery, what happened to all the people he had absorbed? Nabu, in particular, seems like something that could have serious repercussions depending on how it went.
 
Seriously. All of the super strong characters are stronger than he is and the non-super strong ones have notably more muscle mass.
I would think he's physically stronger than Black Canary and Green Arrow at least. They seem athletic, but not focused on muscle mass much. Maybe the Atom and Red Arrow as well.
He only gave up the battery. He still has the ring, he just tries not to use it in favor of using the Sinestro ring. Consequently, I'd assume those bad things would only happen if he let the ring run out of power.
Truggs was able to command Lantern Morrow without a ring or lantern, so presumably Gravy would still have control of his Construct-Lanterns without his ring.
 
Sorry if this has already been answered but, Graven gave Alan his lantern back which means he is no longer bound by the oath, so why doesn't he just fly to Vega kill Larfleeze with the Sword of the Fallen and bring the Orange Power Battery to the Controllers, then have them make him a new Lantern?
 
Sorry if this has already been answered but, Graven gave Alan his lantern back which means he is no longer bound by the oath, so why doesn't he just fly to Vega kill Larfleeze with the Sword of the Fallen and bring the Orange Power Battery to the Controllers, then have them make him a new Lantern?
Far as I`m aware: because he`s on mission for Bats to infiltrate the Light. Now why is he doing that instead of your suggestion, I have no clue.
 
Sorry if this has already been answered but, Graven gave Alan his lantern back which means he is no longer bound by the oath, so why doesn't he just fly to Vega kill Larfleeze with the Sword of the Fallen and bring the Orange Power Battery to the Controllers, then have them make him a new Lantern?

Not enough power in the ring. Even with a power ring, no guarantee he'd be able to get to Vega with enough ring power to keep him alive long enough to get a hit against a guy with millennia of experience using the orange light.
 
Not enough power in the ring.
Which ring? He has a Orange one and a Yellow one.

Even with a power ring, no guarantee he'd be able to get to Vega with enough ring power to keep him alive long enough to get a hit against a guy with millennia of experience using the orange light.
Why use the ring to get there? He has a Father Box. Open a Boom Tube right next to Larfleeze cut off his head and then grab the Power Battery and open another Boom Tube on Maltus.
 
Sorry if this has already been answered but, Graven gave Alan his lantern back which means he is no longer bound by the oath, so why doesn't he just fly to Vega kill Larfleeze with the Sword of the Fallen and bring the Orange Power Battery to the Controllers, then have them make him a new Lantern?
He wants to handle matters on Earth, not just abandon it. And, he has no intention of going to the Controllers; that's OL's plan.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top