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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)

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jcw3 said:
Took me a minute to realize that this was connected to the Monitor (?) 'returning' the Illustres to... elsewhere. I thought it was just an alternate universe episode at first.

Still. Lantern Fang (August-General-in-Iron?)? Sinestro? This sounds like an original DC setting. Unless that Ame-Comi link was a hint I'm missing.

A China-dominated setting. Lawrence Crock, an American, being mentioned as a superfunctionary, or superfunctionary-adjacent. The local equivalent of the Illustres (a warped version of the Illustres?) living in Datong (unless that was a pithy internal comment).

Plenty to think about! Intriguing.
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I believe that was just about Jade Yifei, the chinese green lantern from Ami-Comi girls setting being a character here.

It's unlikely to be more, in ami-comi girls, Sinestra is the black hand and parallax host, because in the ami-comi setting the black power ring was designed by smart people who obviously used wisdom as their dump stat because they thought making a weapon to unleash zombie armageddon that feeds off of death a good thing to do in war.
 
KillingYouNicely said:
...Sorry, but where is Paul and what have you done with him? I know this is probably due to timey-wimey stuff, but still - I have no idea what's going on right now.
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Time Trapper punted Paul back into the timestream, and either intentionally or not has caused an alternate timeline to form (which we are currently viewing as of the latest chapter). Apparently based off at least in part of the Ame Comi setting/variation rather than Young Justice. So the Paul here is involved with Green Lantern Jade (a person with the same given name, but is not the same individual as or a variation of 'Cheshire' Jade).

Beyond that... this Paul apparently never became Enlightened, so no orange quote marks. No idea if he's actually the 'normal' Paul with retconned memories/history, or a completely different path from the get-go and the usual one is still falling through time. Any further changes are unknown until they come up in further chapters.

EDIT: Well, on a quick reread he apparently is with Cheshire-Jade... who is encouraging him to also try dating Lantern Jade... Ok then.
 
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<Looks in>
<Sees Zoat working on a new plotline with mysterious twists being presented>
<Sees wailing and gnashing of teeth, cries of how terrible it is, how it will ruin things, cats and dogs living together, mass hysteria>
<Sees very little (but, thankfully, not entire this time) note of the fact that this happens repeatedly, and Zoat manages repeatedly to make things pay off just fine thank you, so perhaps instead of immediately lighting the Ruined Forever signal, waiting to see where this goes>
Must be Monday.
 
So what I'm getting here is that the Time Trapper altered history well before Paul materialized in the DC universe so that Paul would encounter a different world and become a different person.

OL has fought some powerful beings before, but this is a whole different form of powerful.
 
The Bushranger said:
<Looks in>
<Sees Zoat working on a new plotline with mysterious twists being presented>
<Sees wailing and gnashing of teeth, cries of how terrible it is, how it will ruin things, cats and dogs living together, mass hysteria>
<Sees very little (but, thankfully, not entire this time) note of the fact that this happens repeatedly, and Zoat manages repeatedly to make things pay off just fine thank you, so perhaps instead of immediately lighting the Ruined Forever signal, waiting to see where this goes>
Must be Monday.
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Eh, I don't think they've ever really "paid off", to me at least. I just try to get through them to get back to the typical stuff. The good stuff. Not the seemingly contrived and overly-complicated-for-no-good-reason arcs. It's not a bad thing, trying something new, but... this isn't just something new. This is something almost entirely unrelated to the entire rest of the story we've all been reading and following from post one till now. And to have a sudden jump to an entirely unexplained circumstance is sort of cheap; cheap feeling at the very least, if not actually cheap. Just about the only good "odd" arc to me was with Ambush Bug. But that was easy, and done for uncomplicated-ish reasons.

And it's still Sunday, thank you very much.
 
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Is he... Is he in the alternate universe past ? Like a time line where arrived to earth 300 years early or something?? A time line where that time trapper guy took control of all the lantern Corps? Where the major powers are the lantern???
 
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See Paul, this is what happens when you spook a guy called the Time Trapper in a plot that involves convoluted time travel with a name of a being that irrevocably altered the entire structure of the DC multiverse.

You're just asking to be booted into a timeline even more bizarre and inexplicable.

Once Mr. Zoat's finished with all the time travel here, I'm going to want to draw a line chart and see just how complicated it gets.
 
Travisplo said:
I hope so as well, but this moment-

-doesn't have me that hopeful.
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Well, I hope I'm right because Paul interacting with another Paul from that Paul's POV would be much more interesting than Black Mercy 2.0.

The Bushranger said:
<Looks in>
<Sees Zoat working on a new plotline with mysterious twists being presented>
<Sees wailing and gnashing of teeth, cries of how terrible it is, how it will ruin things, cats and dogs living together, mass hysteria>
<Sees very little (but, thankfully, not entire this time) note of the fact that this happens repeatedly, and Zoat manages repeatedly to make things pay off just fine thank you, so perhaps instead of immediately lighting the Ruined Forever signal, waiting to see where this goes>
Must be Monday.
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Well, people complain because usually when this happens we're stuck with a seemingly irrelevant side story that we have to sit through until we can get back to the real story, and the payoff hasn't always been that great.
 
Pretty sure he's in the alternate history Truggs came back in time to avert and has to avert the Orangest Night apocalypse there before he can head back.
 
Ohhhh I have a fun guess about how this mini arc will play out. How in the world could Zoat put a novel spin on this? Obviously we'll have this alternate-Paul meet his temporally-distorted counterpart: our Paragon-Paul!

Timetrapper is going to make our Paul confront the horrible reality of deleting "false" timelines.
 
OL is due for a parallel dimension/timeline adventure.
Grayvy got to go to Justice Lord Earth, loot a Yellow Ring and a daughter, flirt (one-sidedly) with a Kara, and make it home without lasting injury.
OL only got a short trip to antimatter Qward.
 
Oh yay, Another one of these.

Ima just nope out for a few days so I can read the finished version of this arc, so I don't have to sit here banging my head into a wall for hours wondering what the hell is going on.

EDIT: Okay reading this post back over, way more passive aggressive than I meant it to sound, I just think that reading mind-bender arcs is best done in single sitting rather than episodic, it eases the headaches.
 
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ryleah said:
Pretty sure he's in the alternate history Truggs came back in time to avert and has to avert the Orangest Night apocalypse there before he can head back.
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Truggs wasn't involved before he became enlightened. Hell, even in the Ambush Bug thing the enlightenment quotes never went away. Either something changed/stopped the Ophidian merge or this is a different Paul
 
I've always enjoyed these episodes, but I think I'd be more optimistic about the opener to this one if the last arc had not been so overcrowded.
 
Dakkan Sall said:
Time Trapper punted Paul back into the timestream, and either intentionally or not has caused an alternate timeline to form (which we are currently viewing as of the latest chapter). Apparently based off at least in part of the Ame Comi setting/variation rather than Young Justice. So the Paul here is involved with Green Lantern Jade (a person with the same given name, but is not the same individual as or a variation of 'Cheshire' Jade).
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Zoat incorporated Wildstorm and characters from other cartoons into the story, the presence of Jade Yifei isn't really enough to say it's based on Ami-Comi in any meaningful way.

In Ami-Comi, Sinestro is not a male green lantern in good standing but a female who is the host of parallax and the force behind blackest night.

In fact, in Ami-Comi, the orange lanterns might work for the Guardians. When Jade was chosen by Oa to be the Green Lantern of Earth, they talked as if Oa also chose what color ring was best. Yellow, Black, White, and Violet are spoken for by others, but that still leaves Blue, Red, Orange, and Indigo as possible coworkers of the green lanterns. They also still have Manhunters too.
 
One of these again, only more real. Funny enough, I might like Paul like this more, since he hasn't been overloaded with OL. Yes he became better after achieving enlightenment, but he was still overdosing on Orange. Paul seems more personable here. Hopefully, when he sets things back, he will remember the difference in thought and try to get better.
 
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I walk up to her, bend slightly and kiss her lightly on the lips. Then I pull back slightly and smile affectionately down at her, prompting her to exhale with a sort of pleased irritation.

"Actually…" She looks me in the eye. "That reminds me."

"Clearly I need to kiss you more often, then."

"Will Lady Yifei be at your 'return to work' interview?"

"I.. don't know. I haven't seen her since I got back. I'm not even sure if she's on Earth. I mean, I'll.. ask after her-."

"She got back to Earth yesterday." She smiles. "Now is the perfect time to ask her out."
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Guys, I think we're all missing the important point here. AltTimeline! Paul has clearly entered the harem zone.

I bet that's going to generate conflicting feelings once he comes to his senses.

Also, that's a hell of an odd divergence point, but to each their own.
 
stsword said:
Zoat incorporated Wildstorm and characters from other cartoons into the story, the presence of Jade Yifei isn't really enough to say it's based on Ami-Comi in any meaningful way.

In Ami-Comi, Sinestro is not a male green lantern in good standing but a female who is the host of parallax and the force behind blackest night.

In fact, in Ami-Comi, the orange lanterns might work for the Guardians. When Jade was chosen by Oa to be the Green Lantern of Earth, they talked as if Oa also chose what color ring was best. Yellow, Black, White, and Violet are spoken for by others, but that still leaves Blue, Red, Orange, and Indigo as possible coworkers of the green lanterns. They also still have Manhunters too.
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Mm. Fair enough. I was just putting it as a possible basis of the timeline due to the link to the Ame Comi review Zoat had in the chapter.
 
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