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o_O It's openly stated in the TV trailers. It's literally stated to be his goal by Gamora's voice over.

I have not seen the movie yet, and I don't go looking for Spoilers, but that part has been public knowledge for weeks now.
*sigh* I have been avoiding all premotional meterial. But seriously, they could not but that kind of reveal like half way in?

also, sorry I yelled.

A funny video about spoilers

Is this how movie trailers are meant to be now?
 
yeah, I can't think of a whole lot of Power armored heroes in DC. Steel, Rocket Red, Azrael, occasionally Batman, as you said the Jaime Blue Beetle if you stretch the definition of Power Armor... can't think of any others offhand.

Steel is the most prominent power armor hero in DC I'd say.

Others include Alpha Centurion, Machinehead/Tin Man, Atomic Knights, Iman, Silver Scarab, Hardware, Minion, Booster Gold (it just doesn't look like armor), STRIPE (well sort of a mini mecha, since he pilots it more than wears it), Son of Vulcan, Darkstars (again, just doesn't look like armor, but it is), Lionheart, Goldstar, Firebrand 3, the Kate Spencer Manhunter, and Icandy can gain power armor upgrade through a cheat code.
 
*sigh* I have been avoiding all premotional meterial. But seriously, they could not but that kind of reveal like half way in?
you even avoid the TV spots? (what about the trailers before other movies?) :eek:

Can't fault your dedication.:)

also, sorry I yelled.
no problem, I understand the impulse

okay, those were funny (and all too accurate anymore...)
 
Fanfiction assumes familiarity with the source material
I have to disagree with that. I find that well-written fanfiction can explain canon as it becomes relevant to the story and do just fine. The obvious exceptions being Continuations and Alternate Continuities: there's no point in rewriting canon events, so it's an acceptable expectation that the reader has already consumed the canon material.
In Dungeon Keeper Ami, it describes what little canon it uses by making every character Mr. Exposition because the natives of each world would otherwise have no reference for info about the other's. I've never watched Sailor Moon, and I hadn't even heard of Dungeon Keeper before I found the fic, and I very much love it.
In Skooma Cat (Skyrim), it leans somewhat heavily on established lore, yet still weaves it into the narrative. I will admit it enriches the experience to have UESPwiki on hand, but not by much.
In WTR, it describes canon by going over meta-knowledge in the first-person perspective. This is rarely inadequate in terms of enjoying the story, especially since he hyperlinks articles, instead of info-dumping, when necessary.
Fair enough, I suppose. OL occasionally uses mind control though, albeit only temporarily, do you hate him too, or is it just permanent mind control you hate?
He rarely brands, and always relinquishes control as soon as conveniently possible. He detests assimilation. And that one time he made them "more honest about their desires", all parties involved agreed to it.
 
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*sigh* I have been avoiding all premotional meterial. But seriously, they could not but that kind of reveal like half way in?

also, sorry I yelled.

A funny video about spoilers

Is this how movie trailers are meant to be now?
As someone who has seen the movie, it isn't a secret or anything. You know about it less than 5 minutes in.
I have to disagree with that. I find that well-written fanfiction can explain canon as it becomes relevant to the story and do just fine. The obvious exceptions being Continuations and Alternate Continuities: there's no point in rewriting canon events, so it's an acceptable expectation that the reader has already consumed the canon material.
In Dungeon Keeper Ami, it describes what little canon it uses by making every character Mr. Exposition because the natives of each world would otherwise have no reference for info about the other's. I've never watched Sailor Moon, and I hadn't even heard of Dungeon Keeper before I found the fic, and I very much love it.
In Skooma Cat (Skyrim), it leans somewhat heavily on established lore, yet still weaves it into the narrative. I will admit it enriches the experience to have UESPwiki on hand, but not by much.
In WTR, it describes canon by going over meta-knowledge in the first-person perspective. This is rarely inadequate in terms of enjoying the story, especially since he hyperlinks articles, instead of info-dumping, when necessary.
Fanfiction inherently assumes (most) of the audience are fans of whatever the story is based on. You being an oddity doesn't mean that isn't true. Especially when we're talking about a trait of the Reach that is as constant as Green Arrow using a bow or Batman being rich.
 
OL occasionally uses mind control though, albeit only temporarily, do you hate him too, or is it just permanent mind control you hate?

It's... harder to hate and fear OL since I've been in his head so long while reading this story. But if I ever ran into him with no prior knowledge, you bet your ass I'd fear him. Because the only reason that his mind control isn't permanent is because Paul doesn't want it to be. There's no limits to what he can make you do, no cleverness to find loopholes to frustrate his goals, and no force of will that can stop it, at least for anyone who isn't a candidate for a Green Lantern ring. Just, one word and suddenly your only desire is to do whatever he wants. The only escapes: death, or him deciding he has no more use for you. It's bloody terrifying.

Steel is the most prominent power armor hero in DC I'd say.

Others include Alpha Centurion, Machinehead/Tin Man, Atomic Knights, Iman, Silver Scarab, Hardware, Minion, Booster Gold (it just doesn't look like armor), STRIPE (well sort of a mini mecha, since he pilots it more than wears it), Son of Vulcan, Darkstars (again, just doesn't look like armor, but it is), Lionheart, Goldstar, Firebrand 3, the Kate Spencer Manhunter, and Icandy can gain power armor upgrade through a cheat code.

I think you forgot Rocket Red.

You don't have to be familiar with the canon to be a fan.

Yyyup. *cough* look at Worm *cough*
 
Pursuant (supplementary Renegade option)
Okay, Genomorphs situat-

I step into the hush tube and appear back in Challenger Mountain.

20th October
14:43 GMT -6


-ed, Dox busy, shipyards up and running, ship-building coming on acceptably… Tamaran can have a tick. Cranius has released Mister Blake on his own recognisance and he's reacquainting himself with Human civilisation, twin-man -and it turns out that his name is Ph'yzzon- well enough to return home, Karna firmly under friendly control… Mr Near is finalising our coup plans with Ms Savage. Mr Talbot is adapting well enough to his power ring. Admiral Oswin wants to know when I want to move against the Psions. He's a bit eager to move his fleet out of Vega so he can carve himself a duchy out of formerly pirate-controlled space, but I'd like to wait until the first batch of Tamaranian ships are ready for real combat. Ah, he doesn't need an answer right now

Mother Box, anything interesting happen while I was gone?

Ping!

Hah! They did? What sort of idiot attacks three Kryptonians-?

Ping.

I suppose it's nice that they're spending time together. It's not quite on a level of that petty burglar in Happy Harbor, but that's still a pretty high difficulty curve. A little surprising that he legged it but I suppose that even an axe-wielding cosplayer can take a hint that big.

So: next item on the agenda. What am I going to say to the people who will be running the British government after we kidnap them and then kill their less moral colleagues? And what are we going to do about the monarchy? Now, I've got a lot of time for Elizabeth Windsor Prime, but I've seen a list of some of the things Cabbage 16 used to get up to and, damn. Nothing I feel obliged to kill her for, but-.

I dart back four metres as an axe blade cleaves its way through the air just in front of me, signalling additional drones and armouring myself as I do so. That slice matches-.

Someone in a metal face mask lunges through-. A woman, clearly. The helmet fully encloses her head but for the two red eye pieces and the hole at the back for her ponytail, but… Okay, I'd give her a pass on that. Compared to what most super people wear, not a bad effort. Except that the jacket.. thing she's wearing doesn't merely have a deep 'v' to show off her cleavage to its best advantage. No, it also shows off her abdomen as well. And I don't think it's even armoured. And her trousers are those stupid hip-hugging things…

"OhthankGod!" She waves the haft of her axe at the rift, which closes behind her. "You gotta help me! He's-."

"Yes, because I routinely help people who break into my home. Who are-?"

Wait, I… Dimly remember. Terror Titans, wasn't it? She was Clock King's… Oh, darn, what's his name? The guy from the Legion era? He was in an episode of Justice League Animated…

No, gone.

"Elise, my name's Elise Kimble! And I-." She waves the axe, then appears to notice it. "I'll, ah…" She takes a firm hold on it with both hands and sets the butt on the floor. "I was minding my own business when this guy dressed like a ren faire reject cuts a hole in the air in front of me and kidnaps me. He made me put this.. get up on."

"I see." Mother Box, is she more threatening than she looks?

Ping.

I think I can dodge a great axe.

Based on past performance, Corpsman, I wouldn't give exceptional odds.

Alright, I think the drones I've got lined up can shoot her dead before she can swing it.

Better.

"Would this be the same 'ren faire reject' who picked a fight with Superman and sons a few days ago?"

"Did he?"

Sinestro, hologram.

An image of whateverhisnameis appears just in front of me. "This man?" Ms Kimble nods. I dismiss the hologram. "And he forcibly abducted you?"

"Yes! He picked me up and threw me through this.. like, cut in the air. He said I was one of his ancestors or.. something."

"Yes, he's most likely from the future. Did he give any indication as to why he picked you, as opposed to any of his other ancestors?"

"It wasn't just me. There was this guy called Cole, and I think he was planning on getting more."

Oh, splendid. "I assume that the axe is a gift from him?"

"I… Yeah, he-?"

I raise my right hand to my ear. "Jean, highest defence status immediately, please. Make sure Circe and Adom know."

"Of course, Grayven. Whom should we expect?"

"Some guy with a super axe."

"He's really strong!"

I move my ring away from my head for a moment. "Strong, like a man who exercises a whole lot, or strong like super strong?"

"Super, super strong."

I move the ring back to my ear. "Some guy with an axe who is also super strong. And possibly some other people with axes."

"We will bear that in mind. Should I activate the 'special' drones?"

"For a guy with an axe? No."

"Understood."

I lower my hand again. "We've probably got a minute or so before he gets here. Are you planning on joining in?"

"What? No, no one saw me leave."

"Both your axe and your helmet are transmitting a locator signal, s-." I see the axe blade appear next to her neck and yank her out of the way as it cuts across where she had been standing. In its wake space itself is cleaved apart, revealing a.. squad of poorly dressed axe men.

Oh dear.

"Is one of you the…" P-something. Wasn't it? "Peruser?" No reaction, though the masks make it a little hard to tell. "Pursuer? Ppppp… Punisher?" The stare. "Perambulat-. Come on, give me a clue."

"I am the Persuader." The voice comes from the one nearest the front. "I chose the name for myself because-."

"Your axe is very persuasive, got it. Any chance I could persuade you to go back to bothering the Legion?"

He straightens slightly at the name. "You are not from this time? No, it is of no consequence. I do not care about you, but that bitch betrayed me. I will have her head."

"He's craz-!"

I raise my right forefinger at her. "Ah juh-juh-juh. Going out on a limb here… 'Betrayed' in the sense that she accepted your equipment and training but fled before your rematch with the Supermen?"

"Just so. Stand aside."

"You can't-!"

"Juh!" I take a deep breath and smile at the Persuader. "I don't.. really care about her, but you picked a fight with some friends of mine, and… Can I assume that if I refuse to give her up, you'll attack me?"

"Of course."

"Ah-" Open fire "-well, I-."

The drones behind me drop stealth and fire, purple light blazing through the air as I lunge forward, daiklave in hand. The Persuader is already reeling back as I jam -yep, more than normal Human toughness, must take samples later- my blade through his chest, through his heart and out through his back!

I flick his corpse off my weapon as the rest of the crowd raise their axes. "Lads… Get a clue. Drop your axes now."

There's a brief moment of hesitation… Then they comply.

"And you." I point backwards at Ms Kimble with my right hand. "Don't even think about running."

"Staying right here."

Another one. Pfff. Sod it, I'm going to find Cassandra Cain and Rose Wilson before someone throws them at me.
 
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Someone in a metal face mask lunges through-. A woman, clearly. The helmet fully encloses her head but for the two red eye pieces and the hole at the back for her ponytail, but… Okay, I'd give her a pass on that. Compared to what most super people wear, not a bad effort. Except that the jacket.. thing she's wearing doesn't merely have a deep 'v' to show off her cleavage to its best advantage. No, is also shows off her abdomen as well. And I don't think it's even armoured. And her trousers are those stupid hip-hugging things…

Did the Persuader just want eye candy? That's what this update seems to imply. I mean... I guess she's divorced enough from his generation, and Legion-era ethics might be different than ours, but... if he picked out her outfit, then... ew?

EDIT: I should clarify- did the Persuader just choose that *outfit* for the eye candy? I wasn't trying to imply anything about Elise herself.
 
With some IPs, including Worm, you don't even have to like the canon to enjoy the fandom's works.
Which is sort of a shame for those of us who are fans of the source material, given that the non-fans tend to adhere to the dumbest fanon and fundamentally fail to get what makes it interesting in the first place, then they spread dumb fanon and get pissy when people who actually know what we're talking about correct them on canon.

I mean, not all non-fan fanfiction authors are shitty, but most of them...

(Looking at you, Perfect Lionheart. Show some respect for the source material, you hack)
 
Did the Persuader just want eye candy? That's what this update seems to imply. I mean... I guess she's divorced enough from his generation, and Legion-era ethics might be different than ours, but... if he picked out her outfit, then... ew?

EDIT: I should clarify- did the Persuader just choose that *outfit* for the eye candy? I wasn't trying to imply anything about Elise herself.
I didn't describe what the men were wearing.
 
I dart back four metres as an axe blade cleaves its way through the air just in front of me, signally additional drones and armouring myself as I do so. That slice matches-.
A woman tries what amounts to randomly teleporting away and ends up, not just in the middle of Grayven's secret base, but directly in front of Grayven the moment he arrives back?

Gotta be honest, that's stretching my suspension of disbelief more then juuuuust a bit.
 
Which is sort of a shame for those of us who are fans of the source material, given that the non-fans tend to adhere to the dumbest fanon and fundamentally fail to get what makes it interesting in the first place, then they spread dumb fanon and get pissy when people who actually know what we're talking about correct them on canon.

I mean, not all non-fan fanfiction authors are shitty, but most of them...

(Looking at you, Perfect Lionheart. Show some respect for the source material, you hack)
Exactly why is respect for the source material necessary? I'm no more a fan of Perfect Lionheart than the next guy, but that's kind of a ridiculous objection when there's so many better ones for his writing :p

Treating the source material as some sacred cow strikes me as sillyness and "It is just not done that way"-ism.

If people enjoy stuff that's not accurate to the source material, all the better for them.
 
A woman tries what amounts to randomly teleporting away and ends up, not just in the middle of Grayven's secret base, but directly in front of Grayven the moment he arrives back?

Gotta be honest, that's stretching my suspension of disbelief more then juuuuust a bit.
The axe clearly has some kind of locator/scanner/something or it couldn't do things like slash an opening to a specified location or person at all. Persuader somehow found his way directly to Superman after all.

Typo:

"It wasn't just me. There was this guy called Cole[, and I think he was planning on getting more."
Excess bracket.
 
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