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Zoat, you have probably answered this before, but what does the SI's power armor look like? I've always imagined it as a scaled down, dark gray, and somewhat smoothed over version of the HulkBuster.

Very bulky, basically, and without as much greeble. And without the thruster ports, obviously.

If you have an image that is a closer fit, it would be nice to see it.

Ahh Hulkbuster....AKA Tony's "I'm feeling extra arrogant today, so I'm gonna go get the hell beat out of me once again."

You think he would have learned from the Banner assembled team "The Hulkbusters" One does not bust the Hulk....one only gets busted.
 
Ahh Hulkbuster....AKA Tony's "I'm feeling extra arrogant today, so I'm gonna go get the hell beat out of me once again."

You think he would have learned from the Banner assembled team "The Hulkbusters" One does not bust the Hulk....one only gets busted.

One kills the Hulk with drugs and or gas. Or sent him to the Moon so he has a cooldown time.

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"Banner this is my nuclear powered armor, if you destroy it no one in a hundred miles will survive." General Thaddeus E. "Thunderbolt" Ross said with an arrogant smile.

"Why the hell are you wearing a Nuclear Armor?" Bruce Banner could hardly believe what he was hearing. This wasn't WWII, everyone knew damn well how dangerous a nuclear explosion was.

"To prove the Hulk is a killer or to finally capture you. Sure it might cost me my life but so what? You cost me my career and my daughter and I am an old man. Either you surrender or the Hulk destroys my armor and kills a lot of people. You still lose Banner."

"You... you are insane."

"Pushing a man hard enough will do that. Now what do you say?"

***

Or you could go the Nuclear detergent route...
 
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Some characters aren't interesting no matter what you do with them. Like Thanos....fuck Thanos, and fuck whoever thought Marvel having a Darkseid was either needed, or a good idea.
That would be Jim Starlin.

Thanos is Starlin's creation, and very much his pet, to the point that if anyone does something with Thanos that Starlin doesn't like, he will find a way to write a retcon into whatever comic he's working on at the time. He's particularly insistent on Thanos only being defeated by his own insecurities, never by anything the heroes actually do.

...oh, and he introduced Thanos by basically hijacking a couple of issues of Iron Man in which IM had no reason to even be in the story; he was pretty much captured and forced to listen to Thanos's origin, then the situation resolved without Tony doing anything.

I don't think much of Jim Starlin, but at least he isn't Tom DeFalco.
 
Legion of Superheroes has had several forms of Time travel over the years. silver age Superboy would fly thru time to visit the Legion, Braniac 5(?) invented a 'Time Bubble' that Legionaires used to visit the 20th century on several occasions, and there was a Legion Villain called the Time Trapper who was supposedly from several millennia further into the future.
The LSH's original time machine was the Time Cube, invented by an associate of the Legion named Rond Vidar. Brainy probably had some influence on the later Time Bubble, I can't recall. (Incidentally, Booster Gold used a Time Bubble that had been lost in his 25th century to get to the present.)

The Time Trapper, when written properly, is the personification of entropy, dwells at the End of Time, and plans to roll the end of time back to the beginning and so uncreate the universe.
 
One kills the Hulk with drugs and or gas. Or sent him to the Moon so he has a cooldown time.
Or at least try to fight him from long range. The biggest flaw in the Hulkbuster armor design concept is that it's made to get close to the world's strongest superhuman melee fighter. If I was Stark designing anti-Hulk armor it would be more a super-sniper armor design.

The Hulk is never as dangerous at range throwing stuff as he is when he can get his hands directly on someone.
 
The Hulk is never as dangerous at range throwing stuff as he is when he can get his hands directly on someone.

Only because that's how the writers want it. A guy who can smash planets with a punch can certainly throw very large heavy objects very quickly.

I remember a feat of the Magus, Warlock's father, not Adam Warlock's split personality, when it comes to superstrength.

He pulls chucks of a sun off with his bare hands, and then throws said chunks of sun at the people or things that annoy him, whatever planet they're on.

Can't really say I blame Warlock for not wanting to fight dear old dad.

But using superstrength to emulate nuclear bombardment stuck with me when it comes to unconventional uses of the superpower.
 
Only because that's how the writers want it. A guy who can smash planets with a punch can certainly throw very large heavy objects very quickly.

I remember a feat of the Magus, Warlock's father, not Adam Warlock's split personality, when it comes to superstrength.

He pulls chucks of a sun off with his bare hands, and then throws said chunks of sun at the people or things that annoy him, whatever planet they're on.

Can't really say I blame Warlock for not wanting to fight dear old dad.

But using superstrength to emulate nuclear bombardment stuck with me when it comes to unconventional uses of the superpower.

God, I really want to be around when he gets cut off in traffic.
 
Pursuant (part 13)
19th October
15:53 GMT -7


Kal-El floats down towards him, smiling in a welcoming fashion with his right hand slightly extended. "Welcome to the twenty-first century, Mister Hunter. I'm Su-."

"Superman, yes. I know who you are." He takes a moment to look around at the desert panorama. Green jumpsuit with dull red decoration, blue eyes and a ginger mullet. I.. don't remember Rip Hunter having a mullet. But.. this could be him from an earlier point in his timeline.

Or it could be someone entirely different. Now that he's out of the sphere I can scan him. Nothing special there, just a baseline human lousy with chroniton radiation. Which suggests that he wasn't involved in the murders in Washington, which is nice. Were time spheres distinctive? No, Seven Days had a time travelling ball as well. Can't… Remember anyone else in DC…

Mister Hunter and Kal-El shake hands. Chroniton radiation is dropping off rapidly… No observable effect on Kal-El from touching him. Hm. Now that I'm past the event, the pattern of radiation makes a good deal more sense. This is the only locus, so… Nothing else to worry about. From this site, anyway.

"…wned hero like yourself." Mister Hunter looks up at me. "But I don't think I know your friend..?"

I float downwards.

"Not a historian by any chance, Mister Hunter?"

"Amateur historian, sure, but professionally? Physicist. Why do you ask?"

"Because -while I fully appreciate that even in this age of technological progress not everyone is going to recognise me- I'm getting a bit peeved about time travellers not having the foggiest who I am."

He appears to find my statement a little disturbing. "Do you.. meet a lot of time travellers?"

"Four so far, none of whom had heard of me."

Kal-El chuckles to himself. "I hadn't realised you needed public affirmation that badly."

"If there's no record of me, then I never did anything the world remembers. If I succeed in.. any of my longer term aims for the Earth, I would have done. Future people not knowing who I am means that I fail." I grimace. "That won't stop me trying, but I won't deny that it's a bit off-putting."

Mister Hunter shrugs. "Since I haven't heard of you, why don't you fill me in on what those aims are?"

"Arcane and technological revolutions, channelling the expertise of the human species in a more efficient way than the super-brawls and minority-participation cults it's limited to now. There's no reason why children everywhere shouldn't learn to use magic in primary school, but all of the time travellers I've encountered so far made no mention of magic. I tried fighting the Reach, but apparently they still win anyway."

"The Reach, huh?" He nods. "Kind of a powerful target you've picked out there."

"Yes. They're an efficient use of my time."

Kal-El focuses his attention on Mister Hunter. "Okay, before we get too distracted… Is there a particular reason why you're here, or are you just a surprisingly dedicated autograph hunter?"

He nods. "I came back in time to stop a political extremist called Per Degaton. He's building a support base for some sort of revolution, and we think he's using time travel to do it."

That's not too surprising, at least. "Abra Kadabra told me that Per Degaton ends up being successful."

"But we know that, now. With the foreknowledge I've got, stopping him shouldn't be too difficult for the Justice Society."

Kal-El looks mildly puzzled. "Either you're sixty years too late, or you've gotten the name wrong. We're the Justice League."

Mister Hunter nods. "Guess that I've got something to take up with future historians as well, then. But will you help me track him and his people down? I could.. probably do it myself, but it'll go a whole lot faster with powerful metahumans and people with contacts with the government and police."

"Wait. Wait. You're saying that changing the past is possible?"

"Yes." He nods. "One of the first things I checked. If you're outside of time, you're not affected by the changes. Even changing your own history just.. produces some odd echoes. Of course, it doesn't help if you're inside of normal time. Chroniton radiation just gives you a temporary buffer."

"So… How come the time travellers already here haven't popped out of existence?"

"I'd need to study them and their techniques to be sure, but I'd guess it's either because they haven't prevented themselves being born yet or they haven't tried going home. Time doesn't correct itself all at once…" He shrugs. "Look, I'll be happy to give you a full lecture on temporal mechanics after we stop the time travelling fascist. Are we going to be working together on this, or do I need to hitch a ride to the nearest town?"

"What sorts of thing are his people doing in this era?"

"We think they're building weapons, then putting them in ultra-secure caches to be dug up again in the future. Beyond that, we weren't really certain."

Kal-El nods, spotting the direction of my line of questioning. "Exactly what sorts of weapons?"

"Ah…" Mister Hunter frowns. "All sorts. I think their main infantry weapon is some sort of.. exotic particle projector, but they also use light power armour and personal teleporters. Why do you ask?"

"There was a group murder a few days ago in Washington State by people using that sort of weapon. Genetic material left at the scene suggested that the attackers came from the future, and the slogan they left implied strong humans first ideology."

"That could be them. I don't have specific records of that attack, but that fits their profile. Were the victims aliens, or employed by aliens?"

"No. Demon cultists."

"Demon..? You're.. serious?" Kal-El and I both nod. "If they're not.. human then it's technically against their ideology for humans to cooperate with them. And if they're acting this openly, that's all the more reason to take them down as fast as possible."

"I think stopping a time travelling fascist is something the League can assist you with. Orange Lantern?"

"I'm on board, naturally. But I'd really like access to any other information you have on this era as well. If we're stopping one warlord, I can't think of a reason not to stop any others as well."

"Sure, I'd be happy to."

I blink. "Um. What?"

"Per Degaton was my primary target because he's the one I've got the best information on. But it would make my day if we could prevent the Reach taking over the Earth in the first place. And the best way I came up with to do that is to stop their patsies. I think you called them… The Light?"



"No."

Lex? Lex is the one who sells out the Earth? I mean… I know they use local collaborators. I helped kill some. But Lex.. selling out to aliens. Satanus, yes, the Brain, sure, Savage… Just about. Lex… I'd.. honestly have said that he'd rather die than put human destiny in someone else's hands.

"Now, hold on." Kal-El holds up his right hand. "The Light are the ones who bring the Reach to Earth? Why would they do that?"

Mister Hunter shrugs. "I'm a time traveller, not a mind reader. I don't know the details. If I had to guess, they thought they could get something out of the deal and bit off more than they could chew. But the Reach don't arrive for years. Degaton is here now."

I nod. "One zeta tube to the Hall of Justice."
 
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"I'm on board, naturally. But I'd really like access to any other information you have on this era as well. If we're stopping one warlord, I can't think of a reason not to stop any others as well."

"Sure, I'd be happy to."

I blink. "Um. What?"

Ha. I like how the Illustres wasn't expecting Hunter to along with it. This made me chuckle.

"Per Degaton was my primary target because he's the one I've got the best information on. But it would make my day if we could prevent the Reach taking over the Earth in the first place. And the best way I came up with to do that is to stop their patsies. I think you called them… The Light?"

I also like how nonchalantly this is revealed. This was a good update.
 
one thing true about most versions of lex is hes a human supremacist in some way or another and would hate helping aliens and would rather die its a bit weird that hed betray humanity.
 
Mmm, it really does undermine Lex's Humanity First rhetoric when he keeps making deals with alien superpowers who want to conquer the Earth. Starting with the Reach and then dealing with Apokalips and having Savage refer to it as 'business as usual?' Yeah that ain't exactly what someone concerned with Terran Prosperity should be doing.
 
I wonder if Hunter would be interested in Paul Dannering him or give him the super speed juice since he is a baseline human and could use the boost in his various missions to save future.
 
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