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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)

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stsword said:
Well if you follow the tradition of the "What if Superman landed on a different planet" stories that DC did, then he'd be based on Starfire. So he'd probably be called Sunflame, or Starblaze, or something like that.

For those who have no idea what I'm talking about, pre-crisis DC did a story which revealed that Jor-El did computer simulations of what his son's life would be on the various planets he might send them to. In a land of giants, he's the Atom, in a world of eternal night, he's flying nocturnal mammal man, waterworld he's Aquaman, etc.

Given a sequel post crisis in which Kal-El is sent to Oa to be the tallest guardian of the universe ever, where he's Big Brother on Thannagar, and a jackass known as Skyforce on Rann.
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Amazing. I assume this is after Red Son hit big?

Yeah, I somehow forget Tamaranians seem to have both badly-spelled-english-word-with-an-apostrophe names and wait-why-do-we-have-superhero-names names.

Would that make the Clark Kent equivalent C'alidtongs?
 
Empiricist2 said:
Does a million dollars count as enough to live on? If she can make a proof for any of the remaining problems, she's mostly set for life. Even if the money itself isn't enough, it would come with tons of offers for being a professor.
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I want to say no, but IIRC 7% is a good yearly return on investments, so if she invested all of it immediately and never needed to take more out, she'd be getting 70k a year - equivalent to the average income with a decent degree.

Still, that's almost certainly not enough if she gets into any superhero shennanigans, and it's also not going to last long if she lives in america. She's entirely reliant on specialized doctors for medical care and I bet they don't take insurance; if she so much as stubs a toe then she can kiss that money goodbye.

Firlz said:
It seems entirely plausible that new areas of mathematics were generated to solve FTL travel that in no way assist with proving or disproving the collatz conjecture.
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Actually, while it's probably a question that a lot of other people can answer too, she could probably make quite a lot by answering that well-worn question: "How do you travel faster than light?"

It seems like "contemporary" physics are generally the same in the DC verse, and then all these super-geniuses come along and shatter it into pieces, and anyone who isn't a hyperintellect just shrugs and ignores it.

For example, as we understand it, basically every minutia of our understanding of physics is screaming "NO FTL! NEVER! NEVER NEVER NEVER NE- okay fine wormholes, but you gotta get them there the slow way first and GOOD LUCK PRODUCING NEGATIVE ENERGY!". On the other hand, OL has data on so many different methods of FTL travel that there's actually a list to choose from. A long list, with many variations in method, practicality, and difficulty.

So, clearly in the DC verse scientists are probably very wrong about how the universe actually works, especially considering that a entire aspect of reality, 'magic', is also completely ignored. So literally anyone from any society which has developed a more accurate model, I.E. any civilization with FTL, could probably bring about revolutionary discoveries with even a cursory overview of how things actually work.
 
Buggy said:
Still, that's almost certainly not enough if she gets into any superhero shennanigans, and it's also not going to last long if she lives in america. She's entirely reliant on specialized doctors for medical care and I bet they don't take insurance; if she so much as stubs a toe then she can kiss that money goodbye.
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Given that she's a kryptonian?

I think insurance would be fairly helpful for the types of accidents she's likely to have.
 
I'm surprised Epoch or Eobard Thawne weren't brought up as possible candidates... though I suppose "The Lord of Time" and "Professor Zoom" are much too busy with their own obsessions to care about killing a bunch of soul-selling junkies.
 
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All it takes is one red lamp, one sliver of kryptonite, and bam; one of the greatest, most powerful races will be thrown down from the pedestal! Forever would the walking demigods, beings with muscles of inscrutable origin, powers that mere mortals could only dream of, forever would they be humbled! Forever more would their confidence be replaced with manic fear, forever would they tremble with every step after they experience the greatest pain any being can ever know:

A STUBBED TOE
 
Simon Buchan said:
Amazing. I assume this is after Red Son hit big?
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Actually 'The One Man JLA 1-4" storyline was in 99, Red Son in 03. Bad guys kidnapped Supes and put him in virtual reality simulations based on his father's computer simulations.

One that was interrupted but looked interesting- Superman raised by Martians. Since Mars is a lifeless rock in New Earth, suggests that Mars 2 or something similar existed.

He was also green ala Supermartian, which suggested that the martians altered him using their psychic powers or technology.
 
ThrawnCA said:
Huh? She's hanging around the SI and the team he trained.

Is there any reason to suppose that she doesn't wear a kryptonite radiation shield?
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Stop poking holes in my evil plan to show the nigh-invulnerable races of galaxy the pain that humans have to go through on a regular basis! What, next you're going to tell me the Maltusians can't get headaches?
 
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Pursuant (part 9)
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    • 19th October
    16:54 -5 GMT

    "I would be astonished if that were true."

    Kon frowns at me from the other side of the room. "Who is it?" His pupils narrow slightly as he gives himself a magnified view of my face. "Truggs."

    I nod. "As far as I am aware, the only problem we have in common is the Reach, and they have no resources anywhere near Earth. I checked this morning."

    "But you know about the assassins, right? They called you in to that pile a' corpses in Washington State?"

    "I'm not telling you any-."

    "Come on! It was on the news. Police wouldn't let 'em see the warehouse so they filled air time talkin' about you."

    "If you want to give me a clue, do it. Otherwise I'm hanging up again."

    "Fine! Fine." I hear him huff at my lack of courtesy. "You remember I said I wanted t' change history?"

    "Yes."

    "How many people you think want t' do that?"

    "All of them. If you're referring to time travellers that I know about, just you."

    "What, you forget about yer friend 'Abra Kadabra'?"

    "I never got the impression that he wants to change anything, just to improve his own life. In fact, he told me that he came to this period in the hope no one would notice anything odd about him."

    "And you think he hasn't changed things?"

    "Truggs, I don't even know what model of time travel this universe uses. For all I know changing the past is impossible."

    "You thought I was wasting my time?"

    "Nothing wrong with optimism. Plus, for all either of us know this was what you did the first time around as well."

    "Huh. I did not know you did not know that. Yeah, pretty sure things can change."

    "Do you have an evidential basis for that, or-."

    "I found a lab. No time machine -which was a kick in the pants- but a whole lotta notes."

    "You found a lab in the present, or in your era?"

    "'My' era? It's not just my era. I wasn't the only guy there."

    "You never told me exactly when you came from. And.. if you're successful then they'll all.. have never existed."

    "I'll create more than I'll destroy. Or maybe not… I gotta be honest with yah: some of the stuff I read? Time's… Sticky. Like, it knows how it's meant t' go, an' if you do stuff to it it'll try and go some other route?"

    "Or it just can't be changed, because you yourself are a product of the past you are trying to alter."

    "That one kept me up at night. But, turns out? I'm okay. See, the lab? It was in a cave in the future, and it was old enough that it should exist now. And it did. It was, like, the fifth place I went. But when I tried t' go back… Rock wall. And some real interesting energy."

    "Someone erased the lab. Then.. how do you still remember it?"

    "I dunno! Maybe they rebuilt it. Maybe travelling in time makes you immune t' stuff like that. Problem is, I think someone saw me and.. I think I've been retroactively dodging assassination attempts. A whole lotta medical supplies I don't remember using are gone and I've got scars I don't remember getting..."

    "I understand. Just tell me what sort of funeral service you want, and I'll arrange everything."

    "You do understand whoever it is will be coming for you as well."

    "Why? I'm not a time traveller."

    "You sure about that? Because I've got a copy of Dana Dearden's article on you, and apparently…" I hear pages rustling. "You went back in time."

    "Three years, from a parallel universe. I doubt any actual time travel was involved. The universes probably just don't.. line up."

    "Oh, I'm not going to try and kill you. I'm just saying, this is public domain-."

    "Does it matter? Either I won and everything's fine, or I'll pop out of existence. There's nothing I can do about it."

    "Really? You don't have a time machine tucked away somewhere?"

    "If I had a time machine I'd have gone back and talked Luthor into not joining the Light. I don't have a time machine."

    "Huh. Kinda thought you mighta been lying about the parallel universe thing."

    "So aside from a useless warning..?"

    "It's not the same people."

    "What isn't?"

    "Whatever killed those people in Washington used some sorta powerful exotic matter weapon, right? I'm tough, but if someone hit me with something like that? I'm done. My injuries are all regular weapon injuries. No reason why you'd use fancy guns against ravers and regular stuff on the guy you were really trying t' kill."

    "What makes you think you're the 'real' target?"

    "Good question. See, the way I see it, the only reason why someone would try and stop me was if they wanted the future I don't want. Reach didn't have time travel, or the Orange Lantern Corps wouldn't a' eaten them in Kadabra's future. So… Who else?"

    "Someone who wants to kill you but apparently doesn't care all that much about me?"

    "No! Someone who wants the future we're trying to prevent! Or who wants a different future! Might even be the Thanagarians." I'm uncomfortably reminded of the ship that brought Princess Chay-Ara to Earth. "We want the same future. These people don't. This is both our problem."

    "What do you want?"

    "How about we share information?"

    "I'm exceedingly reluctant to do that without a good deal more evidence than I have now that this is even happening."

    "I can understand that. Hold on a sec…"

    Coordinates received.

    "There. Just sent you the place where the lab used to be. Take a look."

    Ring?

    "Take a look at a mountain?"

    "I don't have a power ring. You might find something I missed. Or you might get shot at like I have been."

    "I'll consider it. Anything else?"

    "Nah. I'll call you again when you're done. Ciao!"
     
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    • Mr Zoat said:
    "No! Someone who wants the future we're trying to prevent! Or who wants a different future! Might even be the Thanagarians." I'm uncomfortably reminded of the ship that brought Princess Chay-Ara to Earth. "We want the same future. These people don't. This is both our problem."
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    Might have missed this, it's been a while and I didn't finish my reread, but I thought Chay-Ara and Khufu were both humans who were exposed to Thanagarian fuckery. Is Chay-Ara nonhuman in this continuity?
     
    Mr Zoat said:
    "Good question. See, the way I see it, the only reason why someone would try and stop me was if they wanted the future I don't want. Reach didn't have time travel, or the Orange Lantern Corps wouldn't a' eaten them in Kadabra's future. So… Who else?"
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    Yes, Truggs, because it is completely inconceivable that someone might disagree with your method of achieving your desired future. Obviously if anyone is trying to kill you while knowing your motivations, they want the Reach to kill most everyone.
     
    jcw3 said:
    Might have missed this, it's been a while and I didn't finish my reread, but I thought Chay-Ara and Khufu were both humans who were exposed to Thanagarian fuckery. Is Chay-Ara nonhuman in this continuity?
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    This comes from talks with Adom and offscreen scanning; a thanagarian ship crashed in Kandaq and the only survivor was a woman who married a pharaoh pr prince that wasn't Adom
     
    Mr Zoat said:
    .. I think I've been retroactively dodging assassination attempts. A whole lotta medical supplies I don't remember using are gone and I've got scars I don't remember getting..."
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    This...is actually sort of mildly terrifying. Now OL is a lot LOT powerful then Truggs..but what if someone gets to Paul before he meets up with Alan? It was his most vulnerable time. Or kills Alan and steals his lantern before....ugh..time travel.
     
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