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All with the power of nimble flips, leaps, and flying headsissors. With extra close up on the leather covered ass.

I remember watching Black Widow take down a handful of guys in...I wanna say Iron man 2. The bullshit in that scene was staggering.
Knowing anything about how fights actually works and the physics of it (your 120 pounds aint gonna shit unless the guy is real cooperative in following when you throw yourself to the ground) really removes all immersion in those kind of scenes, you kinda just have to roll your eyes at the silliness and ignore what you know about combat.
 
Knowing anything about how fights actually works and the physics of it (your 120 pounds aint gonna shit unless the guy is real cooperative in following when you throw yourself to the ground) really removes all immersion in those kind of scenes, you kinda just have to roll your eyes at the silliness and ignore what you know about combat.
Unless you're the producer of John Wick, it's hard to make a movie that people want to watch that consists of continually shooting people in the head.
 
The only reason why someone her size and weight could pull any of that off or any other fictional character is because their empowered by science, magic, or some other means. Or their enemies are less dense and heavy as they appear, or the environment itself is messing with normal physics or they're in some astral plane where nothing is dictated by logic but by force of will or whatever, and showing the hero struggle way more then they should makes them look less amazing and more like a liability.

Like Paul has pointed out before that while training and equipment allows heroes who are baselines humans to take on roves of non-powered criminals it takes one lucky shot to cripple or kill them entirely, even then if they did accept the enhancements he would warn them that their less vulnerable to most forms of attack but not against even more powerful enemies or esoteric forms of attack or manipulation.
 
From turning Jade down to the Spider Queen in less than 12 hours... Maybe the anti-Jade shippers have a point?

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But yes, Karate Kid sending a directional earthquake to cancel out another one with a single kick to the roof of building is bullshit.
Quite -- that doesn't even WORK that way. You'd just have TWO seismic waves traveling in opposite directions, making a fantastic explosion in the middle and continuing on their way only slightly diminished from the effort of kicking up the rocks in the middle.

Unless you're the producer of John Wick, it's hard to make a movie that people want to watch that consists of continually shooting people in the head.
I mean, if you do it ENOUGH times, you can tell a pretty good story of WHY the head-shooting is going on.
 
Then we are in agreement that Paul needs to stop all this foolishness and make his way to the One True Kon.
Kon is also super boring. Maybe a tad less than Jade. Also, one year old.

Or those movies where a slim chick beats up big burly men. It's just not a thing.
Well... Depends. If you're sufficiently quick and nasty. No pinky can defeat even a slender arm, and eyeballs aren't that tough. Also, if the skill difference is big enough, timing, coordination and perception can do seemingly magical things.

Of course, this is all comparing baseline humans, and presuming we're not talking sports.

A fit person can lift twice their bodyweight, the strongest people in the world can lift, what, six, seven times their bodyweight, so that's up to 3, 3.5x multiplier. Even on the low end, Kryptonians are a couple of orders of magnitude beyond that, in addition to their speed and toughness.
 
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Quite -- that doesn't even WORK that way. You'd just have TWO seismic waves traveling in opposite directions, making a fantastic explosion in the middle and continuing on their way only slightly diminished from the effort of kicking up the rocks in the middle.
Actually, to my knowledge seismic waves can interfere with each other and cancel out.
 
Well... Depends. If you're sufficiently quick and nasty. No pinky can defeat even a slender arm, and eyeballs aren't that tough.
I actually think that's another problem, in a way. Many of the realistic ways that a much smaller person of either gender can beat a much bigger one in melee tend to be more brutal than mainstream comics or a lot of movies want to show. Most people probably don't want to take the kids to watch a film where Black Widow is popping the eyeballs or cutting the throats of her opponents.

At any rate, considering all the other absurd things that "training and skill" can let someone pull off in comic-book land, a woman beating up a man doesn't really strain the suspension of disbelief much. If Ultimate Hawkeye can kill somebody with his fingernail clippings, then Black Widow beating men up doesn't really seem all that extraordinary.
 
Knowing anything about how fights actually works and the physics of it (your 120 pounds aint gonna shit unless the guy is real cooperative in following when you throw yourself to the ground) really removes all immersion in those kind of scenes, you kinda just have to roll your eyes at the silliness and ignore what you know about combat
It was interesting watching Happy use something of real boxing while Widow was basically doing a wire fu pro wrestling lucha scene.

Yes, yes he is.

eyeballs aren't that tough
Oh good gravy, not this nonsense. Ever notice that you don't see military special forces training eyepokes? First off all, it's not exactly the largest target, secondly, it's not the best thing to hang your life on. Same with a groin shot. Learning how to land a powerful shot to the liver will serve you a lot better. Well, just learning how to fight really. I'm astounded by the number of people who come into my Judo club who really truly believe that they can eye poke their way out of a choke hold, or bite during an armbar or leg lock.

Now, if you're scooping their eyes out and crushing them, that's a whole different story. But doing that quickly? While like 9 other guys are charging you? EH...not likely.
 
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Alienated (part 2)
1st October
12:21 GMT +6


"Tuppy!" Thomas hoists a sheet of steel hull over his head. "Catch!"

Tuppence turns around, giant marine propulsion unit held in both hands over her head. "Whut?"

Thomas throws, sheet metal spinning through the air from the partially dismantled hulk like a giant Frisbee.

Tuppence is already tossing the engine- "Doc, catch!" -to Magnificus as she takes three hurried paces-

"What? Agh!"

-in the direction of the oncoming oblong then leaps, shooting through the air and intercepting it as it starts to fall in earnest. Their momentums cancel each other out almost perfectly, and the local workers hurry to get out of the way as Tuppence lands in the mud with a plop and an explosion of silt!

She pauses to catch her breath, then shoves the plate into the mud and checks herself over. Yeah, I think there's… Maybe a square inch in total that isn't covered in grey-brown sludge right now. She tries wiping her face, then flicking as much off her hands as she can. Her attempt accomplishes little.

"YAH BIG COOYON!"

Thomas appears to be cracking up. Tuppence spots this, and goes to pick up the hull plate-.

Ah, no. I transition next to her and she spots me just as she's winding up for her retaliatory throw. She sort of waves the plate around for a moment, not wanting to throw it with me right there but not prepared to retreat in the face of her brother's prank.

"Allow me."

A wave of orange light passes over her from her feet to the top of her head, removing mud as it passes. She looks at her hands, lets go of the plate with her right hand so she can check her face. "Uh. Thanks." She sticks the plate on her shoulder and starts walking back to the drop-off point. "Ah guess."

"You're welcome." I float after her, accelerating until I come alongside her. "I couldn't help but notice..?"

"Whut?"

"Are you growing your hair?"

"What if'n I am?"

"Nothing, nothing. Just making a social enquiry."

"Burman's women's side barber."

"Really? Wow, that.. doesn't sound clever."

"She ain't exactly bad at it? But I ain't lettin' her nowhere near me with a razor."

"You know, I could… Probably get you a hair dresser..? If you wanted one? Someone who wasn't a serial killer?"

"Naw… I kinda like it."

I nod. "Enjoying the day so far?"

"Beats gow'n t'class, I guess."

"So -given the choice between a normal day in Belle Reve and doing this again..?"

"I'd come back. Probably." I smi-. "What yew lookin' so happy fawah?"

"You've found a legitimate job which you enjoy. That's a big part of getting you to the point where you can be released from prison."

"How much we gettin' fer today?"

"I'm paying for lunch."

"Uh." She grunts, then tosses the hull plate so that it spins in the air before landing and embedding itself point first next to the others. "I'll have the Lobster."

"Having checked the water quality around here, I wouldn't recommend it." Ring, radio.

Compliance.

"
Thomas, I was thinking we could break for lunch now. That alright with you?"

He waves his right arm, nods, then turns around to lower himself off the side of the ship before letting go and falling to the ground. The resulting mud wave is deflected by the lumps of metal already covering the ground by the ship, and he makes his way towards us in a series of somewhat more conservative leaps.

I turn back to the scrap pile, where Magnificus is directing people who do this for a living on a daily basis how to take an engine apart. "Magnificus, are you joining us?"

He looks around. "Yes, alright. Do you have somewhere in mind? If you don't, I.. know a place in Dhaka..?"

"Fine with me." Thomas lands and has to stagger to absorb his momentum. Mister Hazari looks around and sees the four of us together. "We're going to take an hour for lunch."

He waves back. "Okay!"

Magnificus looks at his somewhat soiled apparel. "Lantern, would you mind..?"

I wave my right hand, orange light giving him and Thomas a quick clean up. Thomas smiles. "Shuwer beats prison shawahs."

"Hey." Tuppence jerks her chin at Magnificus. "Doctor Magnificent."

"Magnificu-. Magni, just call me Magni."

"Raaht. Doc Magni. We actually related or whut?"

"Father assures me-" Our surroundings flicker as we appear just outside the local medical centre. "-that we're not. Beyond.. being from the same ethnic group, obviously. Tia?!"

"The whut group?"

"Physical features. Pale skin, blonde hair, blue eyes. It was most likely an evolutionary response to the low levels of light in Northern-."

"An' the formula we gaht don't do nuthin' to make us smartah?"

"Nothing.. significant. It would make you resistant to head injuries… We still aren't entirely sure what all of the effects are, but-."

"Hello!" Doctor Beautia Sivana strides out of the medical centre, dressed in the shapeless sort of clothes recommended for Western women visiting Islamic countries. "I'm Tia, and you must be Thomas and Tuppence."

Thomas leans a little closer to me as Tuppence regards her doppelganger. "Not related, raht?"

"Thomas…"


He grins and nods. "Yeah, Doc. Tommy Beresford. Please t' meet cha. How's it… Ah, how's it gawin'?"

"Malnutrition, poisoning and deformities from industrial waste, five different diseases that don't exist in America any longer… About what I was expecting." Beautia turns to Tuppence. "How are you finding ship breaking?"

"S'okay ah gyus? Lot more fun than sittin' in Belle Reve."

Huh. First time I've heard her address a new person with something other than hostility. Interesting. "Magnificus, where was that restaurant?"
 
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The Danner Formula probable does cause a small boost in intelligence. Anything that causes or is correlated with improved physical health does; for example, taller or prettier people are slightly smarter on average, presumably because many of the same processes that developed the rest of their body so well also applied to the brain.

The Danner Formula wouldn't help with the "software" of the brain, but it would probably ensure that it developed to the peak of its genetic potential. Just as well fed people typically end up more intelligent than people who grow up in a famine; the brain has a better opportunity to develop.
 
Huh', so it seems like Terrence and Tuppence actually want to be smart, envying Sivana siblings in a positive way. Paul could probably improved their brains with the same technique Jade used on herself, and I am fairly sure that they could be great, academia wise if they tried. Danner formula conveys physical stamina, and at least on some level this should probably translate into mental stamina, the ability to maintain focus for prolonged periods of time.
 
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