I seem to recall Etrigan contemplating using American forces to destroy Hell in its entirety if he couldn't rule it, so a mortal with a power ring and the right means wiping out Hell's new and impoved industrial infrastructure shouldn't be that impossible.
With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)
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You know, if he didn't have allies with him, this would just go 'construct singularity projector'
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Either Satanus has a relay setup that bypasses the scry protection (like what Paul did when he filled the earth with orange eyes to get past scry wards) or he is there and invisible.
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Or scrying on his allies...
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Too bad Paul has the sword of the fallen, Assimilation and Angel feather rounds meant to be used in exactly this situation
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FTFY
Satanus, remember? No allies, only enemies and minions.
And Paul, really? Really?! You dude need a therapy about impulse control and planning.
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Ah, damn. I remember that now.Well, I hope he can create some sort of interplanar-intergalactic communication device to chat will his friends.
Don't the Bleed communicators already do that?
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This is blatant rageism. As a ring carrying member of the Red corps, I feel I must defend myself and my brethren. Just because we are mad as hell and not going to take it anymore, does not mean that we are mad WITH hell. You sir, are a Rageist.
So you want the guy who has the embodiment of ALL Avarice in the entirety of this existence Heart inside of him as his soul to do something...not Orange? Also, what makes you think he even CAN?
I mean...he is incapable of doing things he doesn't want to do, and is powered solely by want so....
Also, I can't help but point out that you're acting like Paul's actions have literally just destroyed the entire sector.
When was this now? Ambrose grumbled about something I can't remember, but I must have missed the screaming hords of experts trying to stop Paul's Lazarus pit research.
I can only assume you want Paul to just sit in the mountain and never do anything ever again. Because I swear, every time he does something, you seem to get really pissed.
I mean, I only speak for myself, but for me? One of the big draws of this work is that Paul CAN actually do things without the universe banding together to brutally enforce the status quo. I mean...progress gets made, power ups are kept..it's rather refreshing.
Which brings up something else I've noticed. I've seen OL be accused of being over powered, and yet with every event he is criticised for somehow not taking into account, or preparing for, every single little thing that could possibly be thought off. Or, when he is taking preventive action on something, be criticised for not taking action against something else. Which leads me to believe that Paul apparently has to prepare for every thing that could possibly go wrong with every single little thing he does all day long, while at the same time taking action against every single possible threat in the entire universe simultaneously.
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Thank you, corrected.
I had noticed that, but I generally assume that it's different people doing it.
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One thing people advocating mass destruction need to remember, is that Orange Lantern seems to value the souls trapped in hell. He's unlikely to bust out the really big guns and risk destroying something he values.
Regarding the Spear of Destiny, I'm pretty sure I remember that being linked to humanity only. It's unlikely to work on demons. He might get all the souls in Hell under his control, but if they were capable of meaningfully rebelling, you'd think they'd have done so. Also, I can't see OL using Souls as disposable minions.
Regarding the Spear of Destiny, I'm pretty sure I remember that being linked to humanity only. It's unlikely to work on demons. He might get all the souls in Hell under his control, but if they were capable of meaningfully rebelling, you'd think they'd have done so. Also, I can't see OL using Souls as disposable minions.
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Also known as a target rich environment.
Railguns seem like they would be better used for point defense here rather than his main weapon. When collateral damage is not just inconsequential but beneficial, bombs should be the bread and butter attack, along with other indiscriminate weapons like gravity pulses, orange destructive pulses, and high power sonic weapons.
I like this bit. He has perfectly valid in universe reasoning for why he shouldn't have Satanus' attention. That he was wrong doesn't make the reasoning worse.
I think the likeliest solution is either a mole or some other snooping. Maybe an invisible demon was stationed at every site of geomantic power on the planet. And while the SI can't be scryed, Jade certainly can be.
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He cant pull punches he knows this and if its between risking his Bae or some damned souls then the souls are utterly fucked
1) Spear of Destiny is definitely connected to everyone on Earth, and Sephtian wasn't sure about it being connected to everyone in the universe. Given that it worked on Fate (an alien ascended to become Lord of Order) during WW2, my guess is that it works on everyone, period.
2) Souls in hell are a power source - their prayers power a lot of stuff, as Fawcett city invasion demonstrated. Just purely taking control of them and switching them to chanting "In nomine Patris" or something along those lines would wreck large portions of hell's infrastructure. And that's without converting them all to Helenism (powerful mind control with an epic artifact might pull that off), thus both giving Hades a massive power up, and giving him a cause to invade hell, opening a second frontline for Satanus to defend.
Or, you know, third option: mass resurrection. Make dannered (or, scarier, Garricked) bodies for them all.
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then paul starts going all out cause he read Blackest Night
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Welp, "conquering hell" has been mentioned often enough that I cannot say this wasn't foreshadowed.
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Wow your salty, preparation what is that, MC characters have to win and lose in turn regardless if they prepare right? Disliking someones personality should not make them lose.
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I'm pretty sure pulling a magical artifact with a sympathetic connection to every living human physically into hell would do more harm than good.
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And pauls smart enough to realize this and not even try
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It's a damn shame they turned them into superman villains #3,000,247
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Oh I'm glad things finally picked up, this arc was getting so boring, read more like a lab experiment than anything. Also let's see if Paul adds any interesting new demons to his shopping list.
Huge amount of pure evil? If you compare their number to earth population sure, but the entire universe is filled living beings more or less strongly connected to the orange light of avarice (plus a lot of things in hell are likely more strongly connected to that kind of emotion). Even if he assimilated all of hell and made their connection to the orange light a thousand times stronger than the average living being, that'd still amount to basically nothing, an effect so many decimals right of a significant number that you'd never notice it at all, hell you'd have more effect on the pacific if you took as piss in it than this.
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