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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)
- Thread starter Mr Zoat
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Yeah...Captain Marvel isn't even a flying brick anymore. (even though he was the original) I don't even know if he's got strength any more, I know they got rid of his durability. The wizard is named like...Madmarium or something and they've made Billy more of a "Caster"
*Sigh*
What I really want to know is the question burning within us all. Do Paul and Kon wear Gambeson under their armor?
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shepsquared
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Yeah, god forbid they explore the deeper mythology of Shazam and their universe in general while making a guy based off of being a Superman knockoff more unique when compared to Superman, who they can't actually change anything about ever?
Mamaragan as Shazam is an awesome way to bring him into the pantheon proper and that entire storyline was gravy. The other gods were somewhat poorly chosen (one isn't even a god in her native mythology), but they've continued the Marvel family even if they don't call him Captain marvel.
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Yeah, because what we really needed was another brooding kid with lightning powers. Because, as everyone knows, lightning powers are EXTREMELY under utilized in comics.
And yeah, Captain Marvel was such a Superman knock off that Superman only had to steal several things off of him. Just the little things...flight, no big deal, evil bald scientist, tons of those really, and all that Jazz. Billy had ranged moves, and suddenly so did Superman.
Honestly, the two were so god damn different I don't know what that judge was thinking. Well, he probably wasn't. He was probably just thinking "What's this comic shit in my courtroom?"
But hey! We got new gods! S'ivaa, H'ronmeer, Anapel, Zonuz, Ate, Mamaragan! You've all heard of them right? I mean yeah, most of them are completely made up, but you know....new?
It's also important that Billy be Named Shazam....while the magic word is still Shazam, which then makes it really puzzling how he is supposed to introduce himself.
And it was so new and good that DC turned right around and rebooted the reboot. You know, like THEY ALWAYS DO. You'd think they'd learn to stop fucking with things.
They won't.
OL probably has padding built into the armor, rather than as a separate under-suit. The armor isn't even built so he can take it off without the ring after all; it's a single unit.
As for Kon, given how tough he is, he might have a somewhat different idea than most people of what constitutes "padding".
"Why do you wear chainmail under your Nth Metal armor, Kon?"
"For padding. Steel wears well, besides being soft and comfortable."
shepsquared
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Well let me see... Superman started flying because of the cartoon, Captain Marvel was created as 'superman but the secret identity is a kid' which was super popular, the new gods are one of the new gods created by Jack Kirby, the martian god of fire and death which already existed in universe, one of Jack Kirby's old gods, potentially created just for that miniseries, a greek goddess of mischief and downfall due to hubris, a 'goddess' of reincarnation that is extremely obscure and has contradictory info available and an aboriginal australian god of lightning. So only 1 new god there really. ANd of course DC is going to keep rebooting. Reboots sell because its the only thing they bother to market and half the time they're pitched to pull the fans in perfectly.
And while the 'accidentally transforming himself' gag was funny in the gold/silver age, changing it so he can't transform accidentally at the same time they finally gave up a losing fight with Marvel (every Billy Batson comic published by DC has gone by Shazam or some variant). Yes making him a brat was a bit of a misstep, but they've course corrected since then.
rkyeun
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If the angel was on Earth when you did it, the Presence doesn't care.
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<.<....But Gambeson is worn under chainmail.
Point being, you can't call Captain Marvel a knock off when he had a completely different origin, completely different type of setting (all sorts of weird shit went on in his books) and had abilities either before Superman did, or never had to begin with.
Similar? Perhaps. Created to be their own version of Superman? Oh most definitely. But you can create something in something's image, and it still be completely different. Paul isn't anything like Larfleeze after all.
So....a whole bunch of people no one has ever heard of. Yeah, that's pretty much what I said. To the point where even the ones not made up wholesale might as well have been. You'll have to forgive me, but I find a connection with Zeus a lot more interesting then Fibbity, the god of jibbity, that I just made up.
I have no problem with Billy no longer accidentally changing, although that and keeping him from speaking were pretty much his only weaknesses. I still find it silly that the word, and his name, are the same. I guess the word knows when he wants to transform, and when he's just introducing himself. I wonder if it can misfire?
Yeah, they sell so well that they don't really sell well at all, forcing DC to reboot the reboot for what? The 10th time?
Hilarious that the thing I heard everyone praising most, Green Lantern, as the one that basically just ignored the whole thing. Because the Author had the pull to do that.
So once again DC let their continuity get all fucked up, performed an unpopular reboot, with unpopular character alterations. Causing them to again lose face, lose sales, and lose money. With their only saving grace being that the comic world looked at them and said "Man...no one could ever do a universe smash crisis event dumber than that!" And Marvel staggered out, half drunk with a boatload of terrible ideas, and replied. "Hold my beer."
It's just so great when they do things like "Diana is actually Zeus' daughter." (Hell, just read this very story to see why that is stupid) or "Amazons ride out to rape and murder innocent sailors for babies."
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Someone HAS to deliver the mail eventually.
More like a foundry worker? Although it seems like the specific reference is towards people who outsource their oomph - not inasmuch utilizing classical elements - the Atlantean battlemages do THAT, - but the fact they're asking an arcane lifeform to do the task? If I understood MrZoat's comment correctly.
Hey, Elaine is cool. Although it seems different universes may have a different creator-god, so YMMV.
Well, in all fairness, neither was Solomon. Hercules was, at least, a demigod, and I think Atlas being a titan is more of an upgrade than anything. Still, the old guard had name recognizability.
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Evil M. Lurker
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Okay, mostly ignoring. It would take a lot to make me ignore the return of my Superman.
Replace? Why not say convert?
After all, energy can't be destroyed, only changed.
All the Weasels
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Sounds like my kind of party!
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Lucifer is probably watching and laughing while he gives Eris free drinks in his bar.
Breadnaugt
Even in Death, I'm still Tasty
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If DC governments actually had sensible policies regarding schitzotech, they'd have grabbed up 90% of this stuff and put it into development years ago. Instead OL and Grayven have spent months kicking people up the ass to make that happen.
No idea what the technicals of DC Patent Law actually are, but they're apparently much less practical or sensible than what you're describing.
NemiTheNen
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So basically someone who might be useful for designing or creating a mana tap?
Not just that, they need to do something with her magic, and enable her to do something with the wing magic.
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Too late he already has.
This party was to discuss the last one.
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Given that DC has actual magic, I'm not at all sure whether that's actually true, there. There's a reasonable chance it still holds, and the answer is "something something Bleed something," but in a universe with the sort of cold guns OL uses, conservation of energy takes a bit of a beating.
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It's clearly false, in the same sense as conservation of mass is false in the real world. It's a good approximation but the truth of the matter is more nuanced and there are several more terms to that equation if you really want it to balance. (Metaphysical forms of energy, perhaps.)
Conservation of energy also only applies to a closed system, so... your "something something Bleed something" is a way of saying that the universe is NOT a closed system and you have to look at the entire multiverse to go zero sum.
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I missed Sephtian.
Lord Ernest
Despot of Radioactivity
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Yes, I do. At that point it was more a reference to Comic Book Universes in general, not that I was addressing the Universe for this story specifically. Besides, I did like the segment with Marvel; haven't been able to read the old threads to find the previous references to Avengers:EMH!Orange Lantern.
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She needs to go and talk to some Dunmer refugees. They should know it.
The rest of us have better taste than to involve ourselves in that... Game.
No, Swamp Thing would be fine. It's praying to Swamp Thing rather than dealing with the problem yourself that they'd frown on.
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I have actually heard of H'ronmeer. He's Martian, right?
The implication is that for someone as tough as Kon, chainmail effectively is padding.
I was going to click on 'funny'-
-but then you reminded me about that.
We already disproved that.
No, someone who burns the Atlantean equivalent of tobacco and asks the nice spirits to do the work for him. Actually he's more of a supernaturalist, but that's how they think of him.
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That almost almost sounds like the Atlantean version of Constantine.
NemiTheNen
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Maybe he should also be working with the diplomacy thing...
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