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I've played JSRF once, more than ten years ago. I can't remember anything other than excessive roller-blading, graffiti, and futuristic clothes. So I don't get the reference, either.

On another note, I'm betting the reason the Renegade is seeing Darkseid is about the fact that he came across Earth-16!Grayven. It's literally the only reason I could think of that would actually warrant a trip to Apocalypse that we know of.
 
We had very different school experiences.

Mine was closer to what Angelform is implying than what I think you mean, but I do see your point, as I did interact with them more than 10% of the time, whether I wanted to or not (a lot of my classmates really weren't worth the effort).

OTOH, if they've been taking in modern entertainment and liked some of it, they do have a chance of having something in common with them.

My personal school experience was closer to Taylor's (although I wasn't the one who ended up in a locker) than anything else, but I still believe that there's a necessity for learning to coexist with similar-age peers constructively, and since most people in that age bracket are in school, that's the place to go.

And, for good or ill, it's a valid training ground for learning how to navigate the bullshit of real life. Because public education is depressingly representative of real life in a lot of ways.
 
If he can open a Boomtube to Apocalypse uninterrupted why doesn't he just send a planet atomizing bomb through on a microsecond timer? :confused:
 
If he can open a Boomtube to Apocalypse uninterrupted why doesn't he just send a planet atomizing bomb through on a microsecond timer? :confused:
I'd imagine a reason no one's successfully tried that. Likely the planet has multiple redundant theater shields or some such technobabble. And no one wants to be caught red-handed if it fails.

Because the big man wouldn't be too pleased, to say the least.
 
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New God level foes?

Yes, that would be a problem.

Why add all that C list fodder?

Oh no, the woman with the awesome superpower of having roller skates is coming! Oh woe is us!

And that New God is A freaking female fury, one of Darkseid's elite, one of the best the planet has to offer.

So let me repeat having a pair of roller skates makes one an A lister on Apokalips.

So does having a bow and arrow, an electric whip, claws, or a hot knife.

Yes, truly the stuff of nightmares.
Speed Queen is one of the junior Female Furies. Admittedly, so is Gilotina, and she's an A-lister by virtue of her attitude alone.
 
Bombs aren't on the list. They're not getting in.
Which begs the question of whether things not on the list are destroyed in the attempt or whether they stay at the source location. That hypothetical microsecond timer planet destroying bomb could be an extremely unpleasant surprise for the sender...
If they are able to do that how was the Justice League able to invade and take back Infinity Man in the Paragon timeline?
Because Darkseid wanted them to try?
 
On another note, I'm betting the reason the Renegade is seeing Darkseid is about the fact that he came across Earth-16!Grayven. It's literally the only reason I could think of that would actually warrant a trip to Apocalypse that we know of.
Well, yes; that was made clear at the end of that snippet.

No, I wasn't planning to make a habit of doing that. And I realised that we'd probably run into each other at some point… I just wanted to imply that Father and I were on good terms and that coming after me now might pose a certain risk…

Ping.

No, he'd have checked. And I haven't been hiding myself; I'm in too many databases now. But what am I going to do about…

Ah. I'm… Going to need to talk to Father, aren't I?
 
Yes.

No, she's nothing like that important. Some people felt a little bit better at most.
Thank you, corrected.

Still,there a possibility that, for a handful even, that moment of lessened suffering/despair was ..well... enough to matter...
doesnt take much to chip a hole in THAT wall... and for some folks in that....kinda state, a mere glimpse of light is all they need to start climbing back up...

if absolutely nothing else, SHE got a momentary reprieve
 
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If they are able to do that how was the Justice League able to invade and take back Infinity Man in the Paragon timeline?

easy, barda and free went to darkseids planet (exact name escapes me). IFF most likely thought them prisoners.

and before you say anything, new god turncoat guy (im tired, sue me) is the likely reason there
 
Rapprochement (part 13)
4th September
07:07 GMT -6

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I look around as the boom tube closes behind me. The brief image I saw when aiding Teth Adom doesn't do it justice. The flicker as the fug that makes up Apokolips' breathable atmosphere causes the lights of a distant industrial complex to twist and dance. The disturbingly grey-brown sky made of industrial effluence and reflected light from the fire pits. Apokolips doesn't actually have a sun. If that… Vertigo comic about suns being sophonts was correct, I suppose… They've just got better taste.
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Either that or Father killed it.
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The ring is filtering out most of the stench, for which I am quite grateful. In most cities there's a graduation of squalor; the slums on the outskirts, then tenements, middle class housing before you reach the splendour of the central business district. On Apokolips, Father had the Tower of Rage built in the middle of the Armagetto so that he could be just a little closer to the misery.
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I angle my head down slightly as I float down the main boulevard towards the Tower of Rage. It's… Reasonably well maintained, the workers not daring do anything less than everything they can when within line of sight of Darkseid. As I glance from side to side I catch a glimpse of a few of them; haggard and half-starved wretches who freeze or flee the moment they see me. I try to avoid giving any indication that I've seen them; not because an Apokoliptian Elite necessarily would behave like that, but because I don't want them doing anything-.
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"I die for Darkseid."
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Anything like that. I keep my face carefully blank as the man lands chest first on the stone slab in front of me, the fall smashing everything. Death must have been near-instantaneous, though given where we are I doubt that physical death marks the end of his suffering.
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I hate this place so much. Revulsion From Contradiction.

Steady, Corpsman.

Why? Sinestro, why? If he decides to make a fight of this I've got next to no chance with you anyway. And staying myself, retaining my own emotions in a place like this is a far better defence than a slight buff to my environmental shield.

There is always a way to win, Corpsman. Even against a foe such as Darkseid.

Apokolips is one of the few worlds to have flat out beat a Green Lantern Corps invasion. Father keeps one of your predecessors around so that he can perfect his Green-Lantern-breaking technique. There are treasure rooms full of defunct personal lanterns and power rings. I like to think that I'm pretty dangerous but I'm not a Lantern Corps. Oh, why do I even bother? There's no way that the Guardians left that little snippet in the Book of Oa. It's full of rules and inspirational tales, not arse kickings.

You are correct on that score, Corpsman. But as First Lantern, I was privy to a great deal that is kept from the rest of the Corps. I know about Raker Qarrigat. The last time I cried was when I watched the recordings of a generation of my Corps being slaughtered on the killing fields of Apokolips. I know the evils of this place.

Sinestro…

I look up as a flight of three aero-troopers spot me and begin their attack run.

As you are now, can you still hate?

I do not believe so, Corpsman. But perhaps I will tolerate you hating for me.

"Trespasser!" The lead aero-trooper comes to a halt in the air a little way above me while his wingmen hang back. Ah, Apokoliptian NCOs; he's claimed the right to first blood. If he thinks that I'm someone he can kill, he'll do it merely to increase his personal kill count. "Halt and make yourself known!"

I hate this place so very much



I stop and smile pleasantly up at him. "I am Grayven, son of Darkseid." The signs of his fear are obvious. The slight widening of his eyes. The movement of his mouth as he suddenly finds it entirely bereft of saliva. "I am here to visit my father. Would you be so good as to-?"

"Blasphemer!"

Oh. Not scared of me. Scared to be near to someone claiming kinship with Darkseid. Scared to consider Darkseid's retribution against an obviously false claimant and anyone near him.

But still. Fear.

Darkseid-shaped construct armour forms around me, easily absorbing their volley of blaster bolts. I let my eyes glow for a moment, then send twin beams lancing through the air in the towards the squad leader. He attempts to evade for a few seconds until it becomes clear that they're following him regardless, then he… Just stops, turns, and lets them hit him with a smile on his face.

I can't even begin

The others drop their guns, drop out of the sky, barely manage to prevent themselves falling off their flight discs in their hurry to fall on their faces before me. They grovelSomething. Between their armour and the stone slabs they're mashing their faces into their words are a little indistinct.

I stop looking at them and return my gaze to the Tower of Rage in the distance. Is it..? No. It's like the thing with the Mona Lisa's eyes. I don't believe for a moment that the representations of Father's face are actually watching me. Or smiling. Though I suppose that for a New God as strong as Father it's perfectly possible

"Get up. You are not Lowlies; you are soldiers of Apokolips." "Feel pride in your strength!"

They raise themselves very slightly from the ground. The aero-troopers are elite soldiers, not beasts like the Parademons or techno-organic perversions like the Suicide Jockeys. Technically they're New Gods as well. Just far weaker ones than me. And not likely to grow stronger in a place where I can feel the Anti-Life in the very air.

"My lord." / "My lord."

"Oh, stop." I walk past them and then come to a halt. "Arm yourselves."

I don't look, but I do hear them picking up their blasters and remounting their aero discs.

"I have no need for an escort, but it would be convenient for me to not have to bother with anyone who was not a member of the Elite. Clear my path, that I may complete my journey and greet my father."

"At once, my lord!"

And they're gone, which is probably for the best. I don't want them to… I don't know, ritually disembowel themselves or something. You know, you'd think that living in a place like this they'd just do what Humans do and grow accustomed to pointless killing. I'm afraid of Darkseid because I value my life, my relationships, my sense of self. But if pain's normal and Darkseid is wonderful… Why were they so afraid?

There is a Human expression, Corpsman. Even a Worm an inch long has half an inch of spirit in it. Perhaps what they truly fear is that one day they will stop fearing. That one day they will truly understand the mind of the one who rules them, and that on that day they will be the ones stepping off the roof.

Don't bother, Sinestro. I know that fear is your thing, but I don't think that I want to understand this.

I used fear as a tool with which to create order. This… Is a very long way from my vision.

I smile humourlessly.

Oh, but you haven't seen the best bits yet.
 
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