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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)

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Slayer Anderson said:
The fun part of all this is that it's taking him like... three days, at most, to do all this? Where he'd given Lex Luthor months beforehand? I can't wait until the end of this little recruitment arc...
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"When you can honestly answer 'are you a god?' with 'yes', people tend to get the lead out."

Vaermina said:
Given Paul had to put himself at the mercy of the Egyptian God's to pull the same thing off Grayven's plan sounds rather unlikely to work.
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See again: bigger hammer.
 
Huh. Black Adam gets the Nabu special. Still sketchy as hell but it's Grayven so comes with the territory. At least it's a criminal getting the treatment this time.
 
Mr Zoat said:
*Checks note.*

Whut?
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Oops! Amon and Aton, but no Adom: sorry for the confusion! :oops:

But yeah, Adom seems unique to WTR, though this incredibly reliable source claims it should be pronounced Adom/atom in theory (though given how much English vowels have shifted I don't know how anyone can make a serious claim about the correct pronounciation of ancient EgyptionKandaqui)

Not that this is really a problem, just one more thing OL is being weird about at worst!
 
gourdcaptain said:
In retrospect, going with Constantine as a magic advisor explains so much about how the Nabu situation worked out in every single way. Paragon made it a Hellblazer plot.
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To be fair...who else could Paul have gotten? Who both has a large collection of knowledge, isn't afraid to get mean, has a history of pulling off impressive gambits AND won't stooge on him?

moralrelativity said:
Teth's 'old school' is probably more Grayven's style.
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Perhaps. But Grayven is sort of selling Adom as not an insane murderer here. Plus...well Shazam DID kill him once before, so if Adom starts going all pre-biblical on people's asses...
 
Slayer Anderson said:
The fun part of all this is that it's taking him like... three days, at most, to do all this?
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Multiple power Rings. Motherbox. Meta-knowledge. Support from law enforcement. Positive reputation. No paramilitary taskforce constantly looking over his shoulder.

Frankly it would be pathetic if Greyven didn't manage it quickly.
Lex on the other hand would have needed a miracle to manage it at all.
 
Angelform said:
Multiple power Rings. Motherbox. Meta-knowledge. Support from law enforcement. Positive reputation. No paramilitary taskforce constantly looking over his shoulder.

Frankly it would be pathetic if Greyven didn't manage it quickly.
Lex on the other hand would have needed a miracle to manage it at all.
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I haven't forgotten the advantages Grayven has over Lex, yes, but it doesn't change the fact that he's still going to hold it over Lex that he got it done so quickly while Lex couldn't even begin the project.

Of course, Lex also isn't the kind of person who gripes about the advantages others have, so he's going to quietly stew in rage over it instead of pointing out that he couldn't be held to Grayven's performance standards... because, to a man like Lex Luthor, not being held to the highest standards would be insulting.

Which makes it even more galling for him to admit (to himself) that he failed where a damn dirty alien succeeded so easily.
 
Vaermina said:
Didn't Paul's encounter with Adom and the God's happen in some sort of a mind/soul scape?
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They were high on lsd and had a shared spiritual hallucination - apparently Grayven skipped the LSD due to not being friendly with Constantine and thus didn't convince Adom to overcome his hate of Shazam, keeping him from reclaiming his power and the body, so they may be trapped on those scales still.

Having Circe start the spiritual stuff will probably result in a more orderly transition or something I guess.
 
NinjaMAster said:
Bringing up Plasmus as a comparison might be a good idea. Effectively two people in one body, where one is a monster and the other does his best to stop it but doesn't really have much of a chance at doing so. The non-villain's wishes are respected by keeping them sedated instead of just locking them in a cell as is traditionally done with giant monsters in DC. Legal precedent.
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That was only true of the Teen Titans version. Fortunately, improvements in the storage of radiological material means that Mr von Furth is far less likely to need to be turned into Plasmus on Earth 16.
Maxx Crowley said:
I think this was OL talking so the ** should be orange.
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No, that was M'gann. That was why she called him 'Henry' and not 'Mr King'.
Jcc10 said:
I don't think we ever got a follow up on that...
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Aside from the Renegade inviting Grodd to participate in killing The Brain.
 
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Vaermina said:
Didn't Paul's encounter with Adom and the God's happen in some sort of a mind/soul scape?
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Doesn't mean all that much when the guy you are facing wields Avarice, Fear, Conquest, a sword made of angels and can show off a piece of the anti-life equation, I mean, in a mind space Grayven might as well be represented as a Jumbo airplane decked with many different kinds of explosives, including a nuclear will kill you option and a tiny and really radioactive one for when he really needs it.

Main difference here is, Paul Had to ask nicelly to have his way, and it was pretty much the only way for him to actually get what he wanted, Grayven can get what he wants in many different ways, some are pretty stupid and not really necessary, but he still can use them, and that makes a lot of difference in a negotiation.
 
Maxx Crowley said:
Err...last I checked, Grodd hates all of humanity.

To the chapter....I was wonder when Grayven would make a move on Teth Adom. He seems to be well liked by Zoat but I do wonder...seems to me that a big part of Teth's decency has been because of his friendship with Paul. Without Paul around, Adom might be well...a lot more old school shall we say.
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Yes.

Honesty is not like the new Light really needs a magical superman.

Then again if it was me whatever team I created would be based on Mad Science that works.

Dial H for Hero anyone?

Pick a team of good people and give them the ability to be superheroes.

Easily reversable. Human tech, not alien I think?

Predates Ben Ten by several decades.

Dial H for Hero - Wikipedia

And how long it lasts varies, the split thing lasted years.

Seal the bad part away and you got a powerful force of good.

Don't wanna risk that?

Still got a good safe option for temporary superpowers.
 
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I'm half expecting Grayven to go back to Luthor at the end, show him the team he recruited, and round it out by telling him, "oh, sorry Lexy, but I have to rescind my offer to you. No room on Team G for losers!"
Possibly with a "smell ya later" or some other childish taunt to really drive it home.
 
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Pinklestia said:
Yes.

Honesty is not like the new Light really needs a magical superman.

Then again if it was me whatever team I created would be based on Mad Science that works.

Dial H for Hero anyone?

Pick a team of good people and give them the ability to be superheroes.

Easily reversable. Human tech, not alien I think?

Predates Ben Ten by several decades.

Dial H for Hero - Wikipedia

And how long it lasts varies, the split thing lasted years.

Seal the bad part away and you got a powerful force of good.

Don't wanna risk that?

Still got a good safe option for temporary superpowers.
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And that's where Nylor Truggs comes from, too.
 
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