- Location
- South of North
...and this is why Grayven needs to be careful about running around solving problems.
Sometimes you create new ones.
With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)
- Thread starter Mr Zoat
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Sometimes you create new ones.
RichardWhereat
Feanor did nothing wrong.
- Location
- Australia
Pretty much my thoughts as well. Shade is going to be quite happy, though how he expresses it will be in the air.
ThrawnCA
Carbon-based biped
- Location
- Australia
For a second I thought Shade was Worf-Effected.
tree-lined avenues
just off Pyle Avenue
suddenly find themselves
A flicker of
his eyes stare widely
- Location
- Canada
Grayven just executed a devious plan based on meta-knowledge... and I suspect that the result is that Shade not only just got un-possessed, but he also inherited his enemy's powers. The resulting entity may or may not be reasonable or cooperative.
Look at the linked article on Simon Culp.
He just freed the Shade from possession by Culp.
The Shade is a pretty-high end immortal.
And if Circe deprived Culp of his shadow control, that means the Shade/Mr Swift got it all.
He was pretty horrifically powerful before. Now?
He may well owe a favor.
- Location
- Ashtabula
Wait.....so that would mean the Shade in the Paragon universe is currently possessed?
NeoDarklight
Lord of Mind
Still not threadmarked.
The Bushranger
In the Danger Zone
- Location
- TSAB Asura
Blazinghand
O cursèd spite
- Location
- California
Wow, Shade is so happy to be free that he's laughing! He's about to smile and be friendly and everything's going to be fine...
...right?
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...right?
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TheLastOne
Person of impeccable tastes (for destruction)
Yes, though it's a 'fight for control' possession, and he has been for a long time. It's the explanation they came up for, for some of his more questionable acts.
SomeguySomewhere
The CriticalFumbler
- Location
- Someplace
What Happened, if I recall The Shade's Lore is the following.
A fellow shadow user, Mr Sculp, and the shade were rivals, criminals with powers stemming from the same place. The Shadowlands.
Many years ago they did battle, and Sculp had apparently died. But He did not, he instead became a shadow of his former self, and hid within the shade, driving some of his more villainous moments and corrupting him, attempting to take sole possession of his body and powers.
The SI knew the story that this would have turned into, and short circuited the drama and pain of the expected conflict with Goddess Ex Machina, likely as a gift to The Shade, clearing him of the blight of this unknown ill.
A fellow shadow user, Mr Sculp, and the shade were rivals, criminals with powers stemming from the same place. The Shadowlands.
Many years ago they did battle, and Sculp had apparently died. But He did not, he instead became a shadow of his former self, and hid within the shade, driving some of his more villainous moments and corrupting him, attempting to take sole possession of his body and powers.
The SI knew the story that this would have turned into, and short circuited the drama and pain of the expected conflict with Goddess Ex Machina, likely as a gift to The Shade, clearing him of the blight of this unknown ill.
- Location
- Ashtabula
Huh...would have thought that would have been something OL would have been more up on. Given the few times he's interacted with Shade. Asking for his help, giving him comics for kicking Wonder Woman's ass and such.
- Location
- Hampden Park
Grayven is referring to versions with a higher thujone content than is allowed under US law. Circe just hasn't kept up with modern research.
- Location
- Earth
According to wikipedia, while "absinthe" is legal in the US, it must be thujone free, which kinda makes it debatable whether it's absinthe at all. And I don't see what that would have to do whether it's hallucinogenic or not.
Regardless, it ISN'T hallucinogenic, that's just a myth.
EDIT: Ninja'd by Zoat
- Location
- Hampden Park
Thank you, corrected.
He checked that the events he vaguely remembered from Starman had occurred, and for the most part they have. As such, he assumed that the situation with Mr Culp had resolved itself.
TheLurker
Random Omnipotent Lazy-As-Fuck Being
- Location
- The space beyond the stars
To put this into comparison, a Shade operating WITH culp fighting him for control over the primordial shadow was able to utterly curbstomp a black lantern in a one on one, trivially ignore the call of the black ring, and then permanently trap the reanimated black lantern, and its personal lantern itself, within a shadowy pocket dimension.
I say again, he curbstomped a black fucking lantern even while there was somebody ELSE that was accessing his powersource.
You know poison Ivy? Imagine that is Shade-with-culp-around
Shade-WITHOUT-culp-around might very well be fuckmothering Swamp Thing.
That's about the level of powerspike I think we're dealing with.
- Location
- Hampden Park
As I understand the time line, Blackest Night happened after then end of Starman. As such, Mister Swift was once more in full control of his own power.
Considering comics? Could very well have reoccurred/relapses. Which makes comparing Culp to cancer is very apt.
TheLurker
Random Omnipotent Lazy-As-Fuck Being
- Location
- The space beyond the stars
The way I understand it Culp was still alive at the time though, not actively possessing shade perhaps, but certainly drawing from the same well.
RichardWhereat
Feanor did nothing wrong.
- Location
- Australia
Thujone free is all absinthe since the 20s. It doesnt mean 0.000% it has a higher allowable concentration, and all absinthe falls within that, and always has. Most of the stuff about absinthe is urban myth.
Breadnaugt
Even in Death, I'm still Tasty
- Location
- Britland
Wait, he's been in control of the Shade for decades?
Well, yeah. If he's been a slave inside his own body for decades, don't expect him to be in his right mind for a while.
This is going to get messy.
Simmr001
Aquaman 2018 Fan Club President. I prefer Bob.
- Location
- Crawley, West Sussex
- Pronouns
- he/him
and the odd taste?
TheLastOne
Person of impeccable tastes (for destruction)
No, he was a voice in the back of The Shades head for decades, occasionally taking control.
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