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Yes, because all Berrith are the same.

You racist.
From all accounts they are.

Speaking of which, if they are so horrible in pretty much every way how did they not wipe themselves out before they got into space?

I mean if they don't care about their environment, the thing that gives them life, how were they even emphatic enough to form a society?
 
I wouldn't mind skipping this for a Grayven arc. I enjoy Grayven, his arcs more than mere snippets. This just seems like it is treading old ground with uninteresting enemies. Seeing as we aren't skipping this arc to return for the guardians let's figure out the outcome here.

Will Paul get a new recruit from this? Probably not. Will we have a recurring Orange Lantern enemy? Doubtful. Is this race important for battles ahead? Maybe if it is near where Guardian sectors and Reach borders sit, otherwise no.
Could Grayven come here for very different reasons and cause far larger changes? Yeah. That would be impossible to predict though. Will this cement the Guardians' view of Paul and his Lantern Corps? Probably. Could this be a distraction for Paul that causes him to miss something important? I doubt that would be a ploy from some group against him, but it could be a narrative explanation for why future events occur. Hopefully the Controllers and Tamaran are okay.
 
From all accounts they are.

Speaking of which, if they are so horrible in pretty much every way how did they not wipe themselves out before they got into space?

I mean if they don't care about their environment, the thing that gives them life, how were they even emphatic enough to form a society?

Society = Greater self/family group.
Something you are.

Environment = Predator, Prey, Obstacles, Resources to be obtained.
Something you do/do not want.

I can see how this would work out.
 
Guardians decide not to intrude with the species any more than neccesary, OL complains they're not running a re-education program.

But the Guardians step in and gene-mod the martians so they're not literally all violent psycopaths that reproduce through murder? Oh NO WHAT A TRAVESTY!

Something funny there. Guess enlightenment doesn't really do much when it comes to clockwork hypocrisy.
 
Does this part read like an invitation for a threesome to anyone else?

Or is it just me?
Yes.
Guardians decide not to intrude with the species any more than neccesary, OL complains they're not running a re-education program.

But the Guardians step in and gene-mod the martians so they're not literally all violent psycopaths that reproduce through murder? Oh NO WHAT A TRAVESTY!

Something funny there. Guess enlightenment doesn't really do much when it comes to clockwork hypocrisy.
But there's a key difference: the Guardians dropped the ball with the Martians. The mods worked, but had significant unforseen consequences such as the Martian's complete lack of any desire to explore the universe or travel beyond their planet, which appears to be both highly unusual and substantially detrimental, as well as the harmful caste system. This wouldn't be so bad, except that they didn't any sort of follow-up, when potentially, they could've safely removed the mods once it was clear that they ended vicious cycle of Burners telepathically passing on their violent tendencies to their children. A sample size of 1 is not great, but renegade Miss Martian had no negative effects when her mods were removed.

And, not only did they fail to do any sort of followup, they deliberately concealed the existence of the tampering. They did this when the mods had lasting negative effects on their society that could potentially have been mended by revealing the truth. Imagine if, in pre-Civil War America, literal God descended from literal Heaven and told everyone "No, I made Black people exactly the same as White people. And Asians, and the Irish. You just look a little different, that's all.". Basically every slave-owner who was convinced that slavery was okay because of a perceived inherent inferiority of Blacks would be forced to either give up their slaves, or admit that they're abusing people in violation of both their country's, and the universe's laws, for the sake of profit. It'd practically end slavery overnight.

Similarly, if at any point the Guardians traveled to Mars and admitted, and proved, that they tampered with the Martians and created the caste system, it would at least be severely diminished if not completely destroyed. But they don't, and millions of innocent White Martians continue to be abused.
 
Guardians decide not to intrude with the species any more than neccesary, OL complains they're not running a re-education program.

But the Guardians step in and gene-mod the martians so they're not literally all violent psycopaths that reproduce through murder? Oh NO WHAT A TRAVESTY!

Something funny there. Guess enlightenment doesn't really do much when it comes to clockwork hypocrisy.
Grayven is the one who gets worked up about the Martians. OL seems to consider it unfortunate but ultimately good
 
Imagine if, in pre-Civil War America, literal God descended from literal Heaven and told everyone "No, I made Black people exactly the same as White people. And Asians, and the Irish. You just look a little different, that's all.". Basically every slave-owner who was convinced that slavery was okay because of a perceived inherent inferiority of Blacks would be forced to either give up their slaves, or admit that they're abusing people in violation of both their country's, and the universe's laws, for the sake of profit. It'd practically end slavery overnight.

No, it wouldn't have. Those slave owners would have said it was the devil trying to tempt them away from God's good work... because people are stupid... and usually do what they want and only later come up with reasons for why they did it.
 
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So, if you two even want it to be possible to reach a conclusion, you need to decide which moral reference frame you are using. If you're each using your own, then you've successfully informed each-other of your own stance on mind control, but will never reach a logical conclusion because you don't agree on the premises of your argument, and thus cannot have a argument at all.
I actually don't want to have the argument at all. I just have a really hard time ignoring things when someone is talking directly to me.

Sorry, yes, I know you probably mean you're from America, but this America-hating meme angers me. America has nothing special about its history of slavery compared to other nations of the world except for the fact that we explicitly went to war to end the practice in our nation. And we weren't even the last nation to end it. Heck, there are still nations that practice it! Calling out our nation's history of slavery as if it somehow indicates that our citizens would culturally value it is insulting and false. It is universally reviled as a practice here, and we have a long history of fighting to end it that begins with or before the founding of the nation. There were forces within this country that fought for slavery, but the history is if them losing ground and of the actual spirit of this people and this culture being one that values freedom so much that we will go to war to expunge slavery and free people from tyranny.
Alright, you made me laugh. So here we go.

1. I was mostly being snarky.

2. I stated it just in the off chance someone went "But you're American. Historical slavery and all that." I've had people do that before. Mostly makes me o_O but then we are in this room and I gotta argue that. Sucks.

3. I regularly hear, sometimes from family no less, very pro-Confederacy statements both in my town and on social media. Statements that not only did they not do anything wrong, they were the victim of "Northern aggression", and furthermore said enslaved actually, and I fucking QUOTE "Had it pretty good, and really ought to be thanking us for bringing them over here."

Kindly do not denigrate my homeland by pretending that the history of it does not involve a hard-fought rejection of a practice that was eliminated later still in other nations, and indeed is still practiced in still others. (And I'm not even counting the slavery-in-all-but-name of various totalitarian regimes, such as North Korea.)
My inner defiance forces me to state that I will kindly continue to do whatever I wish, within the rules of the board, and if that includes making comments to the mockery of my home country I will do so. Perhaps you live in a much better area, but the America I know has a EXTREMELY difficult problem with owning up to it's mistakes. If it bothers to even admit something happened at all. The Genocide of the Native tribes, of which I have some ancestry, for instance. I'm also a member of the LGBT community. I've had people openly state, sometimes directed right at me if they know, that people like me should be imprisoned or killed.

That being said. Every country has things they are less than proud of. No one is perfect. I gotta say this, lest someone else bring it up.

Now, to the actual update!

I gotta say...these floating in space rings certainly seem to be holding/getting charge a lot better then the gas guzzler that sits on Paul's finger ever seems to XD.
 
Didn't you know? A Power Ring charge always lasts exactly as long as the plot demands, no more, no less
I guess they are just lucky it's not the old 24 hour charge rules.

I honestly used to hate that. But now I'm not so sure. No relation to the story as I think if Paul could use however much power he wanted for 23 hours and 59 minutes he would just break everyone in half. I still ponder it.

1. Ring must be charged once every 24 hours no matter how much or how little power you have used, and if you go over that limit the ring goes dead.

OR.

2. Gas tank/percentage charge. Charge goes down based upon use and can be conserved as needed.

As a kid I much prefered number two (haha) but now I don't know. Maybe it's because "I'm almost out of charge!" is like the GL kryptonite now. Granted it was before, along with yellow, but still.
 
3. I regularly hear, sometimes from family no less, very pro-Confederacy statements both in my town and on social media. Statements that not only did they not do anything wrong, they were the victim of "Northern aggression", and furthermore said enslaved actually, and I fucking QUOTE "Had it pretty good, and really ought to be thanking us for bringing them over here."
You should mention that there are probably people who would be perfectly willing to be thankful by returning the favor. Also, if you really wanted to make a meme about america and slaves you should be aware that they actually put a loophole in the constitution so that they could use lawbreakers for forced manual labor.
 
You should mention that there are probably people who would be perfectly willing to be thankful by returning the favor. Also, if you really wanted to make a meme about america and slaves you should be aware that they actually put a loophole in the constitution so that they could use lawbreakers for forced manual labor.
Indeed.

Also...not really trying to make a meme.

But I only have one question, and it's very important. What devil fruit did you eat? :)
 
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