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thats less the ability not to give a fuck and more interservice rivalry.
With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)
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thats less the ability not to give a fuck and more interservice rivalry.
The only even vaguely decent thing in that comic is that it involves another "Darkseid shows up on someone's couch" sequence where he shows up at the Free's house, greets his adopted son, passes him an unmarked copy of the tape, and leaves. Awful, but in character.
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Oh if you need a giant CGI conqueror to force the heroes together then I totally agree. Now if only they hadn't completely ignored Jack Kirby's art style! Among other... issues... but this is not the place for that.
Ganurath
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Wasn't he the Martian Womanhunter's lawyer?
Edit: John Jerking had a lawyer named Simon Leas.
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Ganthet: "...look, most of my coworkers are really boring. I gotta do something during my legally-mandated lunch breaks."
Name's not mentioned anywhere in the Revised Story Only thread, that's about as far as I checked. It wouldn't surprise me, but I don't remember him being named or showing up beyond being mentioned.
EDIT: Just checked and I think I'm correct?
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Ganurath
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CITATION!
Simon Leas, aka S. Leas. Sleez.
The problem with Gary Stu isn't the fact that they are super powerful. My favorite comic book character is Superman. The problem with a Gary Stu is when that character makes everyone else look dumb or stupid by comparison. Paul regularly shows up pretty much the entire dc roster and does his best to make them look incompetent. He is frankly an asshole with the best of intentions which is what makes him tolerable but still annoying. Paul's on notable failings at this point have been really in the romance department and which some things have certainly surprised him he has rarely been on his back foot. Add in to this that he is more often then not nicer to the villains then he is to most of the heros but yet nearly half the heroes seem to fawn over him despite the fact he is a dick to their friends at the least. Yeah I don't think I am wrong in calling him a Gary Stu at all.
Common Mary Sue Traits - TV Tropes
Hestia&theCourt
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That was never the point; the point was that Gary Stu is not a universally agreed-upon term. Saying Paul is a Gary Stu is effectively useless since nobody really knows what exactly that means in this particular context, whereas this very post where you talk about how it seems like Paul shows everyone up and acts like a jerk but is loved anyway is a far more effective way of communicating what you were intending to say.
Which is not to say that I agree with you on this. Superheroes don't need more fans fawning over them, or an echo chamber of like-minded individuals validating everything they do. They need someone to call them out on things they do badly, so that they won't do it again, and this story is about a man who is uniquely placed to do so because he's so far out of their context that it's not even funny. Furthermore, how much fawning over OL do you think Earth's heroes are doing now that he's killed Nabu? Or on a lesser scale, how much fawning over him was there when he failed to tell Aquaman about his son, or Dannered Robin and Artemis without permission? And what do you mean, nicer to the villains than he is to most of the heroes? He was justifiably ticked at Nabu (and to the rest of the League for letting him roam free for so long), but aside from that, he acts like the typically polite Brit he is to just about everyone, hero or villain. I feel like your reading of the fic is missing a number of key details that address your concerns.
TheLurker
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Wow.
Yeah, okay, that actually makes a lot of sense.
Jesus they even have similar costumes. That shit must be STAMPING the guardian's warning buttons.
HogarthThree
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Sleez has already appeared.
Really? Huh, weird. I certainly haven't paid for it.
Basically, surprisingly high areas of London housing are largely uninhabited. This is because the continual rise of house prices make the properties there much better places to put your money than shares, so they get bought and just left there. There's something similar happening with large office blocks as well. No one wants to work in them but they keep getting built.
And then there's this insanity.
Thank you, corrected.
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Rare to see Paul descend to Greyven levels of persuasion.
He seems perfectly happy to antagonise Illustres Chaselon.
One of the things I liked best about this chapter is how Paul almost literally goes: "Hey, it's that guy I probably can't beat! Time to give him all of the shit." Say what you want, but the man sticks by his principles.
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I can think of about 666 reasons off the top of my head.
The Tao of Dresden.
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As is often pointed out by readers, comic heroes ARE often incompetent when compared to real life. This is forced for continuing conflict within the books. Also, most of Paul's calling out are young justice CANON mistakes on the heroes parts.
Wow, if someone as polite as Paul is an asshole to you, I shudder to meet the really bad ones around you. To that point, care to explain how he SHOULD be behaving and why?
So Zoat is failing to write a story where his SI fucks every interested party. Yes, I can see the problem here.
Which heroes were these? I must have missed those chapters.
And that bit of kindness has already paid off quite nicely in terms of rehabilitation.
stormturmoil
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Actually, I'm wondering if Paul is starting to suffer from Green Light Sensitivity/Toxicity the same way he used to have issues with Magic Making him Drunk.
He has Orange Light Enlightenment, which makes him resistant to the Mental Effects of Orange Light, and Means that Green Light Exposure won't shut his connection to the Orange Light off but that won't do anything for Green Light exposure Symptoms.
I'm thinking that being exposed to the Guardian's Ambient Auras, the Green Light from all the Green Lanterns and the Green Central Power Battery is making him Overly Wilful, possibly in Synergy with his Orange Light Mediated Desire to lash out at the Bobbleheads
@Mr Zoat Has Paul considered talking to Hades about trying to arrange a release-to-afterlife of the souls converted into Larfleeze rings? I imagine Ophidian would have to be involved in the conversation too lest it get testy about them. Perhaps getting the Honden added to the "official afterlife"club in the process.
While its understandably not anything urgent given how long its already been, I'm rather surprised the MC hasn't added it to his "todo" list on-screen.
Similarly, I wonder about him not summoning all those larfleeze rings left lying around causing trouble
While its understandably not anything urgent given how long its already been, I'm rather surprised the MC hasn't added it to his "todo" list on-screen.
Similarly, I wonder about him not summoning all those larfleeze rings left lying around causing trouble
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Are we doing this again?
Anyway, back on the subject of OL making heroes look bad. Well, facts are facts. He's an overachiever with uplift goals and a god damn power ring. He has no limits on his time or funding. He has no secret identity to maintain, thus having no friends or family to hide THE SECRET from.
Furthermore, let us take a look at their day planners shall we?
Superman: Wake up. Eat super breakfast. Go to work. Troll Lois slightly. Punch face. Finish article before deadline. Punch face. Piss off Lex Luthor. Date with Lois. Call parents. Sleep.
Wonder Woman: Wake up. Eat wonderful breakfast. Do princess stuff (face punching may be involved) Check to see if Kon is doing princy stuff. Punch face. Compel truth out of punched face. Dinner with Kon. Goddess stuff. Sleep.
Batman: Brood until dark. Deny all physical laws of rest and nutritional intake (Seriously. Every time I see Alfred remind him to rest, or bring him food, Bruce always tells him to fuck off with that shit. He survives on raw brooding) Detective shit. Annoy Gordon. Sweet, sweet face punching. Act kinda dickish to Dick. Therapeutic face punching (Parental brooding possible) Fight off telepathic interference from the Millar entity.
Aquaman: Wake up. Eat a kingly breakfast. Do king shit. Punch face. Get annoyed at surface people fucking up your shit (repress urge to punch face.) Sex with hot redheaded fish-wife (Gotta keep the line going) Glorious face punching. Fight off beard of brooding. Sleep.
Guy Gardner: Hunt down "The call" Beat it with its own limbs until it gives you superpowers. Be Guy.
Orange Lantern: Wake up after having spent time playing with glorious tech. Eat orangtastic breakfast. Continue Magical uplift. Continue Technological uplift. Annoy someone. Build awesome shit. Work on intergalactic police/soldier force. Scan some awesome shit for later building. Get annoyed that face demands punching. Apologize for the inconvenience. Tea. Inquire if said punch-ee would not rather engage in activities that don't involve your giant orange boot up their ass. Check on team. Check on Alan. Bake. Sleep (Unless sweet, sweet tech be calling)
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Violation of Rule 4 - Inciting disruptive morality debates.
Depends on if you're going to gush about a butcher or not.
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Is that a spoiler for a recently released movie? Because it seems like a spoiler for a recently released movie...
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The site rules don't appear to define 'spoiler', so I doubt that mentioning the name of a character who has been trailered for months is of any significance.
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