Unless something dramatic has changed regarding a certain character, I think that's at least partially inaccurate.
Rocket Red is supposed to be joining the Justice League. Dmitri Pushkin, he even had an interlude.
With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)
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Unless something dramatic has changed regarding a certain character, I think that's at least partially inaccurate.
Exactly this. Thanks.
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Well, he DID, but I don't think Yuga Khan is exactly a good example.
Chaoswind
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Actually, the League list has changed since then.
01 – Superman
02 – Batman
03 – Wonder Woman
04 – Flash (Barry Allen)
05 – Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)
06 – Aquaman
07 – Martian Manhunter
08 – Green Arrow
09 – Hawkman
10 – Hawkwoman
11 – Zatara
12 – Major Atom (Nathaniel Adams)
13 – Black Canary
14 – Green Lantern (John Stewart)
15 – Captain Marvel (William Batson)
16 – Red Tornado (John Smith)
17 – Green Lantern (Guy Gardner)
18 - Icon (Augustus Freeman)
19 - Red Arrow (William Harper)
20 - Accomplished Perfect Physician (Yao Fei)
21 – Doctor Fate (Nabu)
22 – Atom (Raymond Palmer)
23 – Plastic Man (Patrick O'Brian)
24 - Blue Lantern (Alan Scott)
25 - Doctor Mist (Nommo Balewa)
26 - Red Rocket (Dmitri Pushkin)
27 – Blaze (Angelica Blaze)
02 – Batman
03 – Wonder Woman
04 – Flash (Barry Allen)
05 – Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)
06 – Aquaman
07 – Martian Manhunter
08 – Green Arrow
09 – Hawkman
10 – Hawkwoman
11 – Zatara
12 – Major Atom (Nathaniel Adams)
13 – Black Canary
14 – Green Lantern (John Stewart)
15 – Captain Marvel (William Batson)
16 – Red Tornado (John Smith)
17 – Green Lantern (Guy Gardner)
18 - Icon (Augustus Freeman)
19 - Red Arrow (William Harper)
20 - Accomplished Perfect Physician (Yao Fei)
21 – Doctor Fate (Nabu)
22 – Atom (Raymond Palmer)
23 – Plastic Man (Patrick O'Brian)
24 - Blue Lantern (Alan Scott)
25 - Doctor Mist (Nommo Balewa)
26 - Red Rocket (Dmitri Pushkin)
27 – Blaze (Angelica Blaze)
No.
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No. Not only would that take a vast amount of effort on my part, I want people who use them to be able to read the discussion that happened at the time. If you want the story only version, that's what it's there for.
I'm probably not going to have blue rings charge green rings, let alone anything else.
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I'm...skeptical as to #27. I'm curious as to how you manage to pull it off.
Stratagemini
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The blue rings were useless by design (Ganthet's, I think?). There's a 0% chance a weaponer would willingly nerf a ring they made.
TheLastOne
Person of impeccable tastes (for destruction)
Quite. I mean, here he's making a Lantern not a Ring, but if he did make a Blue Ring he would go out of his way to make it better at murder rather then the reverse.
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In prime continuity.
You know, the continuity Zoat has repeatedly joked doesn't exist because he has so little regard for it?
Of course he has integrated some prime material, but New Earth, pre-crisis, and Vertigo are his go tos for canon welding.
That being said I believe Zoat will probably standardize the blue power rings, but not because that's what happened in a continuity Zoat has made clear he considers so much toilet paper.
Stratagemini
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Presumably he'll make a ring too. Otherwise Alan can't recharge.
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Rings go from one to the other in the comics.
So a green lantern power ring charged with the light of hope is a blue lantern ring.
Which is not what I expected, I thought that the plan was for the blue ring to keep his green ring charge until he finishes the transformation into self sufficient Guardian level.
But since Zoat said he's not sure he'll let blue rings charge other rings, apparently the plan is to halt Alan's transformation cold and start a transformation incorporating blue light.
Which honestly seems dangerous.
Yes, a mystic ceremony turned Elle from Lust to Love, but that's a far cry from assuming that a hybrid entity's biological systems will be unaffected while his elemental nature is disrupted. And Alan is an old man, the biological parts of his anatomy aren't in the best shape.
ThrawnCA
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I'm not sure of the plan, but it does seem to me like Alan would easily embrace the blue light. And even if it doesn't literally charge other rings, surely it plays nicely with others. He won't need to discard his existing green light before fueling further transformation with the blue.
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It doesn't seem to work like that in this story. The only time we see a ring change color is when it gets usurped into an orange ring by OL.
Stratagemini
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So, what you're arguing is that because there is no prime continuity the original blue rings paul remembers (because he recounts the tale of saint walker) were useless as a function of the blue light and The Weaponer can't fix it? Because unless that's your argument, I fail to see why you would bring that up when I was specifically addressing why blue rings were useless in prime and would probably be different here.
In the comics is not a good indicator of how things will play out here. In the first few chapters we were told that Paul would not be able to charge his orange ring at all off of Alan's lantern if it were green. If the problem was "this will automatically change your ring's color to one that probably won't drive you insane, when you charge it from the lantern!" We would be reading a Green Ring Paul fic.
Every canonical indication that we have from THIS story is that rings can't be charged off lanterns of other colors. In fact, paul can't even make their sigils with orange light. Maybe Blue is different? But we have no indication that it is.
Yeah, and that was specifically due to being identity thefted. So probably getting a blue ring too.
Hey, Pushkin interlude will actually pay off now! 
On the other hand, Captain Cornwall no longer is on the list, so uh, sorry Rob. Neither is Zatanna (less of a surprise, given her reasons to hold a grudge personally) so man, there's a freaking lot of bad blood permenently going on with the League holding a grudge against anyone involved with the Nabu thing. oh no there go constantine's chances of getting onto the league
On the other hand, Captain Cornwall no longer is on the list, so uh, sorry Rob. Neither is Zatanna (less of a surprise, given her reasons to hold a grudge personally) so man, there's a freaking lot of bad blood permenently going on with the League holding a grudge against anyone involved with the Nabu thing. oh no there go constantine's chances of getting onto the league
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Something is just wrong with this entire conversation. One, Qward in located in the same place as Oa, just at a different frequency, right? And the transition from the Monitor to the Anti-Monitor leaves you in the same place right? Because when they left from the Sector-house transmitter they ended up in the same location, just converted to Anti-Matter, and travelled to Qward, right? Crossing over directly from Qward would have them embedded in miles of Oa.
I thought the Green Lantern Corps have fixed membership due to only nine Guardians to supervise GLC membership? Another ring wouldn't mean another lantern because they are unwilling or unable to increase the number of Guardians to compensate, or share final supervisory control with Non-Malthusians. Increasing the number of rings per lantern does sound like some they could do to increase the capabilities of experienced Lanterns. An intermediate reward between normal Lanterns and the Honor Guard.
The Orange Corps could be the same way, with Recruits having one ring with AI, and those with well demonstrated control over the Orange and its influence also getting one of Larfleeze's Rings to double their power pool.
A transferable thing can go from past Lantern to future Lantern, so the expense to empower a Lantern does not need to be spent again every time a Lantern dies and needs to be replaced. Also, the ability to take away the power you gave is pretty powerful leverage. But I don't know while it needs to be conventionally physical. The thought of the rings instead being hidden objects kept in their subspace pocket with the lantern is amusing. Like how in Worm the powers are actually separate physical things located in another dimension, only hardly anyone knows it.
Ow. My spleen.
This is horrifying.
The Anti-Life is a truly insidious thing, making him incapable of enjoying life's simple pleasures, like the joy of stomping around planets as a giant kaiju.
Say it with me, bobble-headed malware. The lockdown of hope functions in some continuities isn't natural to the light, but something artificial the guardians added on to make it so the Blue didn't accidently outshine their Green Light.
Legend of Ruina
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Hey, Pushkin interlude will actually pay off now!
Yup, there goes that 0.00001% chance. And not the cool kind where it happens nine times out of ten.
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What's the point of quoting me if you didn't bother to read my posts? I freaking typed that I expected Zoat to standardize the blue rings in the post you just quoted.
My point, which I already expressed, was that expecting Zoat to do that because it happened in a continuity Zoat avoids drawing from is inane. Also in the post you quoted.
And if your assumption is true, why didn't he ask for a ring and lantern? Who do you think he's going to get the ring from, since he didn't ask the weaponeer for it?
Ask the Controllers to do it? Power batteries blow up real good, if he doesn't trust the weaponeer he shouldn't get a power battery from him period.
As I already pointed out, Zoat indicated he's unsure if he'll have blue rings recharge green rings in this story. So how exactly do you think Paul expects the blue lantern to help Alan?
Presumably the plan will be for Alan to get the exact same amount of blue energy leaked into him.
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Well yes, but he asked a Weaponer of Qward, and I can't see a guy like that doing only half the job even if that's all he was asked to do. :lol
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How big of a spoiler is that? I mean, I know I should have gotten around to reading Worm before now if I was interested, but I'm still a little sad that what sounds like an important twist was spoiled for me.
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That alone, not a big spoiler. Everything else regarding them is. It's been out long enough that not seeing spoilers while browsing this site is almost impossible.
Worm can best be described as "then it got worse." Even when things are looking up, they're just setting up for a fall. It's a story that makes Watchmen look light when it comes to deconstructing the superpower genre. I'd say Worm is to Superpowers as Evangelion is to giant robots.
Uresmania
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I know the conversation has moved on, but my mind has been stuck on Paul stuck with a horn in MLP-verse.
Paul: Um, what's this?
Twilight Sparkle: A Ponybook. Duh. Just start reading the names and the one you can't say is yours. It's important to know your own name.
Paul: OK, sure. Let's see...
Apple, Applejack, Applesauce, Apple Bloom...
Shy, Silver Zoom, Skystar, Somnambula, Star Swirl, Sunset Shimmer, Thorax, Turnip, Twilight Sparkle (she winks at me), Twist...
Zecora, Zesty Gourmand, Zippowhill.
Twilight Sparkle: Wow, you must have a really strange name.
Paul: Um, what's this?
Twilight Sparkle: A Ponybook. Duh. Just start reading the names and the one you can't say is yours. It's important to know your own name.
Paul: OK, sure. Let's see...
Apple, Applejack, Applesauce, Apple Bloom...
Shy, Silver Zoom, Skystar, Somnambula, Star Swirl, Sunset Shimmer, Thorax, Turnip, Twilight Sparkle (she winks at me), Twist...
Zecora, Zesty Gourmand, Zippowhill.
Twilight Sparkle: Wow, you must have a really strange name.
ThrawnCA
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He's a Lord of Ordered Chaos, needing time to come to grips with that, and with a big backlog of demons who hate his guts. And whom, in most cases, he now has the raw power to obliterate. Does...he even have any interest in joining the Justice League?
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If Qwa-energy is like the colours, and he now knows exposure to the light in certain ways can make you into something like the Guardians, I think his desire would be to use that procedure in himself, but with Qwa-energy. Becoming either a Qwa-Angel, or a Guardian of Qwa.
Wouldn't he still need a Blue Ring to use a Blue Lantern?
I thought that Blue could recharge Green, not that Green could charge from a Blue.
I.E. It is a function of Blue giving Hope, not an ability the Green itself has.
And Lanterns are just containers for the light, they don't have the manipulation abilities Rings do.
So wouldn't he need a Blue Lantern to collect the light in a useful timeframe, and a Blue ring to take the charge from the Lantern and charge his Green Ring with?
And since a Blue Ring can generate charge independently of a Lantern, and the main point is not to get Alan combat ready but keep him alive first, wouldn't making the ring first be more important, because the trickle of charge it generates would be enough to give to his Green ring to stop his deterioration?
Why are both of these greyed out?
Will Zatara not be coming back?
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Done. Sorry about that.
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The Bushranger
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This may be somewhat relevant.
And the Weaponer will no doubt point out that without a ring, the lantern can't be properly tested for functionality...
Hm. Why the different color here?
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