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My unedited memories should still be perfect, and if I'm consciously experiencing the editing process for then I doubt whatever this is has actually created false memories for years. I clearly remember from waking up with Kon-.
"them"


"Oh, then why not thrown in… Holly, Karon, Selina, Dannette and Harleen while you're at it?"
"throw"

It other circumstances I'd be fascinated to ask what you make of the whole business, but at the moment I'm more interested in what happens next.
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I wonder if she could pilot a T. O. Morrow suit in order to interact more easily with less enlightened humanoids. Assuming her Mother form is actually an illusion like I'm understanding.

Unrelated: did Paul start wearing a second Orange ring again? He has multiple rings and increasing his maximum charge without needing to pull out the battery has been useful in the past. It'll be especially useful if he leaves the battery with the Controlllers as they work on the fountain.
 
Anyone else find it kinda funny that the most evil person in the universe is a person named "Dark Side" on the planet of "Apocalypse"?
About as funny as the greatest hero being called 'Super Man'.
HOW DID THEY MISS A FUCKING PLANET!
A planet being exploded wouldn't actually alter the orbits of the bodies around it if the mass stayed in roughly the same place. People seeing the planet exploding along with the sudden cessation of all transmissions makes it quite plausible that they might believe that.
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A planet being exploded wouldn't actually alter the orbits of the bodies around it if the mass stayed in roughly the same place. People seeing the planet exploding along with the sudden cessation of all transmissions makes it quite plausible that they might believe that.
Yes, but this is a interplanetary civilization and the planet is so close that you'd expect some debris to actually hit the planet. If New York suddenly exploded, don't you think someone would drive over there to investigate or loot, and no one would notice a lack of a giant mushroom cloud?

I mean, I suppose a really thorough illusion could pull it off. Maybe if they had some system which also made the entire planet intangible by some means, but surely someone would notice the suspiciously non-solid debris flying around. And if that wasn't a problem, well, if you can make a entire planet invisible and intangible, and conjure a planet's worth of rock out of thin air, then I'd bet you might not even need a complicated Gambit Roulette to stand a chance against the Guardians.

I will say, credit where credit is due, the manhunters got really close.



Anyway, arguments aside, great chapter, I especially liked the chains of logic! Though, the mention of antimatter... I've kinda wondered what the deal is with that. Is it just really hard to synthesize? Cause if I had railguns, had no concern for collateral damage, and I wanted good anti-everything weaponry I'd go with fullerened antimatter warheads. And power rings can both transmute and synthesize matter...
 
A planet being exploded wouldn't actually alter the orbits of the bodies around it if the mass stayed in roughly the same place. People seeing the planet exploding along with the sudden cessation of all transmissions makes it quite plausible that they might believe that.

yes but unless the planet was in on it things would fall apart when the planet sends a ship up to find out what the fuck just happened. Or failing that a ship goes to take a look at the debris and finds itself unexpectedly lithobraking. If they had established the planet had a pre industral species on it or some other explanation like it being full of space amish that removed the ability of the planet to act it would have been fine. But it was an inhabited normal advanced planet. I liked that episode, but I remember finding the whole court plot just a case of a series of plot devices trying to look like a court drama. If they'd kept the scale to like a cruise ship or something it would have been workable and would have had more threads to pull that wouldn't pull the whole thing apart.


that said about this episode, I think it's interesting. Mother of mercy could definitely be a useful psychological tool. Especially because it sounds like she can tailor the simulations as well as asses those attached. It would also be useful for humane interrogations and possibly even an exotic restraint tool.
 
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Yes, but this is a interplanetary civilization and the planet is so close that you'd expect some debris to actually hit the planet. If New York suddenly exploded, don't you think someone would drive over there to investigate or loot, and no one would notice a lack of a giant mushroom cloud?
I assume that the Manhunters shot them.
Anyway, arguments aside, great chapter, I especially liked the chains of logic! Though, the mention of antimatter... I've kinda wondered what the deal is with that. Is it just really hard to synthesize? Cause if I had railguns, had no concern for collateral damage, and I wanted good anti-everything weaponry I'd go with fullerened antimatter warheads. And power rings can both transmute and synthesize matter...
It's not that hard, it's just a bit too imprecise for the SI's comfort.
 
It's not that hard, it's just a bit too imprecise for the SI's comfort.
Fair enough. As fun as rapid-fire nuclear railguns sound, I'm not sure I would even want to use them on a uninhabited planet. Even if they don't cause substantial lingering radiation a-la fission/(some)fusion.
I assume that the Manhunters shot them.
"How tragic, not only did the planet explode, but it exploded so violently that any ships which go near it are blasted by lasers!"
She'd be the person OL couldn't remember setting out to recruit
I thought that was Mother Mercy herself?
 
now you're splitting hairs. theirs a more plausible explanation ^
Okay, yes, but this situation makes progressively less sense the more realisticly you look at it:

A: planets don't explode
B: If they do, the debris usually wouldn't just fly around in a circle like that, lots would be strewn about in space.
C: Even if the nearbly planet didn't get peltered with debris, the debris should behave according to the laws of gravity and newtonian motion.
D: If they didn't, that'd be suspicious, and if there was a exotic effect to explain that I'd suspect that would just cause more suspicion.
E: We can detect 2-meter asteroids passing near our planet, and track thousands of asteroids. A extremely advanced civilization should be able to detect and track most of the debris field of a destroyed planet, and would want to do it for a variety of reasons.
F: Even if they can't or don't track the debris, ships should be more than advanced enough to monitor debris as they get close, and their shields sufficient to deflect any which they can't track.
G: I've brought this up before, but why were 3 billion people on a planet that could be blown up that easily anyway? New York does not have a nuke sitting in time square with a big panel labelled "Don't shoot this or it will explode". If it did, we'd try to get rid of it or evacuate.
 
Wait, this character is a sentient plant-monster that taps into people's brains and locks them in a fake reality until they die?

And you want to give it a power ring?
And believe it or not I'm pretty sure there is even a reason behind the recruitment beyond just giving Guy another thing to rib Paul about his trip to space over.

Guy: So you "negotiated" with the Spider Queen and now you're calling a continent-sized tentacle monster "Mother"?
Everyone Else::o
Paul::oops:
Guy::cool:

I'd also be interested in Medphyll's opinion on Paul's new mum as well, what with her being a giant plant entity.
 
Wait, this character is a sentient plant-monster that taps into people's brains and locks them in a fake reality until they die?

And you want to give it a power ring?

Mother of Mercy originally targeted people who were already dying. The illusions were meant to comfort them until the end. Additionally, she(and her plant offspring thingies) could feed off the psychic emanations of the dying.

So you know, mercy killing with a side of lunch.

Mongul found her at some point and started harvesting Black Mercy plants to kill off people he didn't like. I believe he also modified them to cause the victims to suffer instead of showing them their ideal world.

I don't recall the exact details, but Mother of Mercy was eventually offered a Green Lantern Ring and a Sinestro Corps Ring at the same time. She chose to be a Green Lantern.
 
I'll give myself partial credit for having called it. :p

Wait, this character is a sentient plant-monster that taps into people's brains and locks them in a fake reality until they die?

And you want to give it a power ring?
As mentioned, Mother Mercy's species feeds off the psychic residue (for want of a better term) of dying sapient beings. Surprisingly, she wanted to avoid going all Audrey II on everything through her buds, and managed to loophole the feeding requirement: beings who were already dying would be granted a merciful passing, the psychic abilities she and her 'children' share granting them Their Greatest Desire, letting them die happy and at peace while also fulfilling her kind's feeding requirements.

Then Mongul came along and ruined everything, as you do.

Mongul found her at some point and started harvesting Black Mercy plants to kill off people he didn't like. I believe he also modified them to cause the victims to suffer instead of showing them their ideal world.
At least in the DCAU, Mongul's Black Mercy plants were still Lotus Eaters.
(I'm not sure if the comic I've seen where Batman throws off a Black Mercy's influence because he's Batman he rejected the constructed reality as impossible "...because I was happy" (i.e. comic Black Mercies are also still Lotus Eaters) is an actual thing or a fanwork.)
 
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Wait, this character is a sentient plant-monster that taps into people's brains and locks them in a fake reality until they die?

And you want to give it a power ring?
Will you believe that she's genuinely empathic person who helps dying sapients to have their last moment in nice/happy environment? All the bad rep she have is Mogul's handiwork who uses her buds to torture people to death.
 
Additionally, she(and her plant offspring thingies) could feed off the psychic emanations of the dying.
The comic implied that they'd always been meat eaters. It was just that while she was small she could easily prey on local life forms.
Mongul found her at some point and started harvesting Black Mercy plants to kill off people he didn't like. I believe he also modified them to cause the victims to suffer instead of showing them their ideal world.
No, still ideal. The horror Superman saw in the comic was a side effect of him trying to free himself.
 
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