With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)
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Oh please tell me we see Hinon answer this. I really want a solid answer as to what propriety is.
It means he can call the orange ring his ring, and not "the ring".
Unknown what other effects it may have.
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I mean, I understand that's the current explanation of it, but either that isn't right or there are some ancient plot holes sitting around which have been pointed out repeatedly and remain unchanged:
Unless the limitation applies specifically to saying "my ring" out loud.
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He didn't say the words out loud though?
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Ah, fair enough. I guess it makes sense then, granted that seems like a bit of a silly limitation:
"Here's a 1 million dollar loan. There's no interest, but you can never, ever say 'These 1 million dollars belong to me.' or we take it back."
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Well yeah, I think his actions earned it. He showed that he doesn't really treat avarice in a petty or selfish way, but in a more transcendental way. Sure, he could have become the benevolent, beloved ruler of Tamaran, but that's not what he wants. He wants for Tamaran to be the best it can be, even if it means he gives away the credit for his deeds to Tamaranians. He wants it all...but not for himself.
His belief that the best form of conquest isn't really "conquest" at all, but a uniting of interests and well-being for the benefit of all, building a greater whole from the parts, also paints him as being the opposite of a Larfleeze-esque, short-sighted Orange Lantern.
He also hams it up at times, but it's not becomes he likes it, but because it sometimes serves a significant purpose. In short, he doesn't let it get to his head. And that's a very, very important trait for a successful Lantern.
Was that aftet the Ophidian's introduction because Maltusians aside, I think she has first claim.
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You know... I think that Grayven is emotionally healthier than Paul, not by much mind you, but Grayven is juggling two different rings of different emotions and is just as proficient with them both as Paul is with his, I don't think Paul could handle anything other than Avarice now.
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His ring proficiency isn't even close to Paragon Pauls level.
Have you met the resident troll? Zoat is his name, and "The SI doesn't know" are his explanations.
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i'd argue saying he hams it up not just because he likes it. He loves him some ham when he can do safely.
Power Ring Users have a different desire hierarchy then us, usually drastically different. By any clinical definition their mindset shows severely warped mentality's compared to ours. That lust demon didn't suddenly 'become good' when she got affected by the Star Sapphire. She just got a new value system, value hierarchy plugged in, one which had her dislike some of the things old her had done. Paul's value system as a Orange Lantern is whatever he wants to be, and that he's as stable as he is a mark in his favor.
To an extent you could argue Paul has been marinating in a single emotional spectrum the most and it shows it's mark. But Grayven's nature as a New God, and one of conquest, severely alters how he can view and interact with people. It's noteworthy he really does need the social network he's developed, like Mother Box, to keep him on an even Keel.
Fundamentally I can't see Gravyen doing what Paul did and surrendering control of an organization he was making to be run by someone else. Or to allow for lines of authority that didn't place his whim on top. Gravyen may be doing it subtly, but it's clear where the lines of authority are in his organization.
Can Gravyen show more shades of emotion in a given conversation? Definitely. But I'd hazard a guess while the tone of the conversation could have more variation, the power dynamics and what interests Grayven not as firmly set for Paul. He can be whoever he wants to be. What that is...I admit he's still finding out.
If the little journeys each has taken says anything it's that both of them benefit from a social network and people to anchor them. And Paul's out doing his own thing and building a power base and an institutional framework that will restrict him too(he won't be managing day to day stuff for his Lantern Core). I think the whole PaulPhidian Mergers have shown him that leaving all the power into his own hands isn't necessarily the best when his own judgment can at times drift unstably.
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Thank you, corrected.
Those were changed the first time. I can only suggest clearing your cache and loading the pages again.
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The Bushranger
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In Grayven's case, it probably doesn't hurt that he just had his emotions flash-purged by Anti-Life and had to do the quest chain to have them all unlocked afresh one by one.
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I'm going to stop you right there...
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I feel the Anti-Life also factors into the equation.
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Pun intended?
On another note, I do wonder what would happen were either SI to travel to some of the Elseworlds out there. OL in the Star Trek 2009/Green Lantern crossover series would be quite interesting to see, as would him appearing in that one universe where Superman was raised by Hitler and somehow managed to adopt the Nazi ideology as his own, minus the racism and genocidal tendencies.
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Trust me when I say that me trying to write two settings for which I have total disdain doesn't produce anything good.
Aren't those core tenets?
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I'd agree that Paragon Paul probably can't handle anything but orange at this point but his proficiency with the Orange Light far outstrips that of Grayven. He has demonstrated the ability to recall his ring to him from the finger of an enemy. Grayven seems to doubt his ability to call the ring from across a room.
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can I have a link or something because seriously, what the fuck.
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The Mastermen.
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Oh, my bad, they were changed and I hadn't checked recently enough.
In my defense I've posted those quotes 3 times over the course of a week or two, and I did check the second time I posted them to make sure they weren't corrected.
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