Oh I am slain!
Wynaut?
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- Tatooine
What a sensible woman. ^_^
With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)
- Thread starter Mr Zoat
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notanautomaton
I've got 99 quests, I've finished one
I like her.
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- Australia
I have no idea what this would look like.
Also, in god-speak, "tosomeone" needs a space.
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- texas
In the comics they definitely can, J'onn regrew his body from a hand once.
In the cartoon, martians heal fast, but not to that extent.
In this fic, that might be an advanced shape shifting trick, like Meg's starro form powerup, though.
You ship it, too, huh?
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- madison
she's certainly very blunt, past the point of rudeness even. But she's bringing something a bit like rule of law to whats essentially been vigilantes doing what they would for years, so a bit of rudness can be forgiven. She's also not entirely wrong that a soft touch runs the risk of being ignored.
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- a nice place
Armstrong puts me on edge. in the comics she was supposed to represent government abuse of power. I hope she doesn't turn out like waller. and I hope renepaul doesn't come back after mounting darksiwed's head on a spike, to find that she went apeshit.
i don't know what put you off. it was awesome. iloved his ruthlessness with the villians.
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- Hampden Park
Looks like it already has one tome?
- Location
- West Michigan
GhostKing 666
Bringing Nightmares to life evey minute
I have to ask, has there ever been a powerful government based character in a DC/Marvel superhero comic book that didn't represent government abuse of power?
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- madison
hmm, so is this just everyday hypocrisy, or is his mantle of conquest acting up? He's no longer being molded into a copy but even without that a driven mantel such as his is no light burden.
esotericist
A Weary Hand
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- Lacey, WA
DBDrake
Totaly A Dragon
Well, the main thing that put me off was his ruthlessness towards villains.
I kid, a bit.
Actually, it was rudeness and lack of respect and courtesy towards people he KNEW were morally upright, if practically misguided.
Also, his general renegadeness. I am a bit more deontological then our si, I imagine.
EDIT: not to say anything was wrong with the story in that regard!
Events played out a they would in those cases, and nobody he was a prick towards sat there and took it in an inconsistent manner, or forgave him after the fact for little/no reason.
It was purely an in character thing.
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"Computer hacking is usually more...metaphorical, Ms Armstrong."
"But not as much fun!"
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- madison
erugh, we've had a big thing about this. But the biggest complaint people have is that the devils luck pairs badly with compulsive risk-taking. A lot of people felt that he was just sort of skating by without consequences for stupid risky actions while Paul was getting caught with unintended consequences for even well thought-out actions.
though this largely died down after he took a pocket nuke to the face and had his adopted father drop in for a chat. But there was a good chunk of the story where he faced no fallout for actions that should have bitten him. It's not really apparent now that he's been bitten but for the few months between him kicking the hornet nest and getting stung it was sort of an issue.
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- a nice place
touche
I think some of zoat's frustration with the characters bled into gravyen's tone.
ThrawnCA
Carbon-based biped
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- Australia
Typos:
he takes his finger off
if she's deliberately insulting me
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- Hampden Park
Thank you, corrected.
To be fair, most superheroes abuse their power as private citizens, so it sort of balances out.
Thank you, corrected.
nmWarden
Webcomic Glutton
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- Texas
I wonder what she's doing in Paragonverse. So let's look at Grayven's business before Vega. Ensuring the newlywed Superfunctionaries have a rugrat on the way should be his biggest priority. Please Mr Zoat? Paragon started the tradition with the amazons and it wouldn't be right to let Grayven fall behind! I understand he may be distracted and upset by failing in his Orangify-Every-Member-of-the-Light achievement attempt, but this is for the greater good! He already has so many slow cooker plots in progress, what's one more? Doesn't he want a Tefe Holland as a niece to spoil? Donna Troy's mystery has been solved so we need more unparseable comics-logic!
Come on. C'mooooon. I stopped bringing up the thanagarian magic user. I didn't even bring it up when Paul offered that Nth metal weapon! I didn't spark a conversation about the Martian pantheon (or their magic) either. Just mix the super science with the fancy decoder ring and make those Superfunctionaries happy! It's not like they'll adopt anyone on the Super Young Team so just... take the plunge. Grayven's daughter will need a job that's less stressful than Hero work in a few years, so why not babysitting?
Pfhhahaahahaheeeheheeee. I mean it's not like it could drive her any crazier. OR sap her will to live! You'll get to have Kaldur teach swim lessons. It is such an opportunity. He or she could become a Vampire Hunter-hunter that protects the success stories of Grayven's monster project. THEY COULD MAKE MAKLUAN RING PUNS THAT NO ONE ELSE IN THE UNIVERSE WOULD GET! Grayven needs a nemesis that he threaten with "I brought you into this world and now I'm taking you out of it!"
Maybe they'll be a magic user that can use Fate's helmet when the Zataras are asleep. Please?
Come on. C'mooooon. I stopped bringing up the thanagarian magic user. I didn't even bring it up when Paul offered that Nth metal weapon! I didn't spark a conversation about the Martian pantheon (or their magic) either. Just mix the super science with the fancy decoder ring and make those Superfunctionaries happy! It's not like they'll adopt anyone on the Super Young Team so just... take the plunge. Grayven's daughter will need a job that's less stressful than Hero work in a few years, so why not babysitting?
Pfhhahaahahaheeeheheeee. I mean it's not like it could drive her any crazier. OR sap her will to live! You'll get to have Kaldur teach swim lessons. It is such an opportunity. He or she could become a Vampire Hunter-hunter that protects the success stories of Grayven's monster project. THEY COULD MAKE MAKLUAN RING PUNS THAT NO ONE ELSE IN THE UNIVERSE WOULD GET! Grayven needs a nemesis that he threaten with "I brought you into this world and now I'm taking you out of it!"
Maybe they'll be a magic user that can use Fate's helmet when the Zataras are asleep. Please?
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- Ashtabula
Yeah....alarm bell went off with this one. I can't help but see her as a possible big ass problem.
Then again, I'm naturally resistant to authority, and nobody tells me what to do (without paying me)
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- Sector 2814
She's a baseline human and Grayven has Gothic Flash. She might be a mild annoyance, but she can "mysteriously disappear" if she becomes too troublesome.
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- Pittsburgh, PA
I do applaud her prioritization, but she's more than a tad too blunt, especially when she's already going to have to fight against the supposition that her department is an anti-cape Gestapo or something similarly unpleasant - and that she's going to be dealing with people whose mental health & positive disposition toward the current government is demonstrably more important than most other citizens'. After all, a middle-aged bank manager having an existential crisis is rather inherently more limited in its potential societal fallout than someone like the Duke of Oil or Blackfire.
Essentially, I see the ideal handling of metahumans & other powerful entities as similar to how governments already handle wealthy CEOs and other holders of temporal power. Smile, nod, be willing to make accommodations (especially cosmetic ones), but also try to steer them toward a path of cooperation or outright integration with the US federal structure. If Superman showed up to the DMA offices unannounced to get started on his certification, he should be shown to a pleasant, well-appointed waiting room with a variety of interesting periodicals to help him (and a docent who can answer any questions he might have on the program he's applying to, mention other opportunities the government has to offer people such as himself, and otherwise be inoffensive & informative).
At the very minimum, staff should be addressing him as 'Mr. Superman' or 'Mr. El', not 'illegal alien'.
Speaking of Superman, the existence of "alien metahumans" (i.e., nonhuman races that naturally possess powers) would make an interesting avenue for the American government to work with. If nothing else, it seems worthwhile to try and make the option of emigrating to Earth and providing telepathy-based services* for the US as attractive as possible for Ma'alecandra'ans who aren't happy with their current situation. Trying to recruit from other races of powered aliens would be a much more complex undertaking, but one with commensurately greater reward.
* Which could, of course, take the form of providing telepathic screening for high-security locations, training in how to resist being scanned for government functionaries, or acting as a living detection system for infiltrators, psychically compromised operatives, or other forms of telepath enemy action. However, they could also serve useful roles as general training assistants via the mind-melding technique we saw Mr. J'onnz (unsuccessfully) employ or helping to pioneer fields like telepathy-enhanced therapy & medicine. Imagine a team of engineers being able to work out the theoretical stages of a project inside a Martian mindscape, or psychological research being able to qualitatively define the components and mechanics of the human mind via telepathic analysis.
I can't think of quite as many uses for Martian telekinesis, but it would still be useful in scientific projects involving volatile/delicate materials or extremely fine-detail work, such as chemistry or mechanical R&D. Being able to combine the intuitive reflexes of manipulating something by hand with the steadiness of machinery would be a definite boon for such endeavors.
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- Ashtabula
I've always been fascinated by how Supers tend to get treated in comics. The hostility of government workers towards them. I've often thought it was a feeling of impotence. That a person who is supposed to be "powerful" is suddenly confronted by someone who can literally do WHATEVER they want, and there is NOTHING they can actually do about it. Got me thinking about something a long time ago. What is power and what is strength? The president of the United states is often called the most powerful man (sorry ladies, I tried) in the world. Why? Because of the army and infrastructure he commands? But put him in a room with say, Mike Tyson in his prime....and who is going to walk out?
Couple that with another idea. What if the world had a Superman who just did whatever he wanted? Not like an evil whatever he wanted, but more like a normal guy. Like he saw something on the news, or someone talking, got pissed off, flew over and proceeded to smack the crap out of them like a lot of people want to do when they get upset at the world. Okay, so no magic, no kryptonite (as Zoat has pointed out, Superman could easily subvert his weakness')....so what do you do? How do you deal with someone that you literally can not stop?
It's why I've always been annoyed at the "Badass" Normals like Batman, or the plain normals like Waller. They mouth off to people that they literally have NO way to enforce their will upon....but it just gets let go. Even a nice guy like Clark has his limits and not every has his patience.
That's why I always really enjoyed The Hulk. Someone like General Ross would mouth off....and in the next panel would be laid out as a cripple in a puddle of his own blood, with shattered remains of his weak, pitiful army laying all around him.
Just when you think you have found a competent government they appoint a confrontational, racist hard-arse to what is ultimately a liaising position.
Disagree. There is a vast difference between demanding respect and actively disrespecting others.
This is a woman supposed to work with people who are characterised by ego and power. People that she outright cannot compel or force, only persuade. Yet she cannot even be bothered to learn the names of the people who could have been her greatest allies.
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