The Froggy Ninja
The Blade Will Never Die
If the issue is the metabolization of UV light I would assume it's a skin disorder.
With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)
- Thread starter Mr Zoat
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Seems like she has more red then orange in her to me. Could she even use the ring properly?
I mean I understand that he could always take the ring back. But what can she get up to with mere flight that is such a risk? Besides, healing the damage could...well help heal her damage and thus make her a better corpsmen. Besides, an independent ability to fly could always be useful if ring charge is low.
Okay so....
He has better things to do, but is scoping her out for corpsmenship, and doesn't want to give her the ability to fly because she might be evil but is thinking of handing her a Power ring?
I mean I understand that he could always take the ring back. But what can she get up to with mere flight that is such a risk? Besides, healing the damage could...well help heal her damage and thus make her a better corpsmen. Besides, an independent ability to fly could always be useful if ring charge is low.
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Presumably, if she had a ring then the first thing she would do is heal herself.
The SI prizes mental stability in potential recruits. Who you are in the dark is very important if you're in the dark all of the time. If she isn't mentally stable without being able to fly then she probably isn't going to be much better with the ability restored. As it is, he can see whether she does decide to make herself useful or not. No one on the SI's long list is going to simply be given a ring and left to their own devices.
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Can't give her the ability to fly and better integrate with the rest of her species - she might become a supervillain.
Considering giving her a power ring sometime in the future. Gotta keep her isolated and bitter until then, so she doesn't become a supervillain in the interim?
Is it that he wants to redeem villains, and if she's not a villain yet it's just not satisfying? I don't get it, otherwise.
Considering giving her a power ring sometime in the future. Gotta keep her isolated and bitter until then, so she doesn't become a supervillain in the interim?
Is it that he wants to redeem villains, and if she's not a villain yet it's just not satisfying? I don't get it, otherwise.
That's mostly because it doesn't really follow our own naming conventions, I think. At least not for important things. We think it's stupid when we think about it at all. People's names may or may not mean something, but if yes it's usually in a dead language like ancient greek or latin, and it's almost never reflective of their actual atributes... same with cities, countries, etc...
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Can. Is choosing not to right now because he doesn't know her well enough. Nothing about not fixing her right away prevents him from doing so in the future.
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Eh? So Ring didn't FIX her when Paul saw her and redhead very un-healthy ?And, perhaps, she isn't flying because she is used to not flying?
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- Somewhere out there
I've never seen this particular expansion. The longest form I've ever seen is Animalia Chordata Mammalia Primates Haplorhini Hominoidae Hominidae Homininae Hominini Homo sapiens sapiens, and that's pretty rare.
I did a bit of searching and it looks like the expansion you're using there was a mistake of punctuation: the writer had written "Homo -> Homo Sapiens -> Homo Sapiens Sapiens" to illustrate the hierarchy of increasing specificity, and the arrows were then dropped.
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Oh. That makes sense. Thank you, I'll fix it.
Better to make sure she's not evil before upgrading her abilities.
I'd presume the disease in question inhibits whatever part of their biology absorbs UV light, whether it's the skin itself or some bit of their cellular biology (like our mitochondria)
Healing broken bones and open wounds are one thing, they are obvious injuries. Genetic damage is harder to spot unless you are looking closely and know what the genetics are supposed to look like. No indications that Paul has done the research to learn what a Tamaranian's genetics are supposed to look like.
If he waits too long though, he's going to get a lot of bad rep after people figure out he could have. Not nearly enough to undo his status as a saviour to these peole but still. While he may think of flight and such as a superpower, I'm guessing that to them it's more like having functional legs. Even prisoners get the right to prothesis in our society, regardless of the increased chance of them escaping thanks to it.
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So what's trying to be judged is if she's "evil" currently? Or is the hesitation because she may be evil in the future?
Could she be in this crater because she's hearing gossip again? Or is it the opposite and people are being smothering and she's not used to this sort of positive attention?
Yeah, while I've been able to roll with some of the recent decision-making by OL... What the heck, Paragon?
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- Purple Mountain Majesty
CELLULAR POWERHOUSE!
Is it weird that this makes sense to me?
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- australia
i..err..dont get it.
im genuinely failing to see how restoring a cripple to her peoples normal standard of physical ability could really backfire SERIOSULY. if she IS cracked on the inside and hiding it, all it'll have done is essentially give her the basic physical abilities of every non-infected member of her race, right?
*is suspecting he missed something somewhere*
maybe refocus the wording a bit more on not having a detailed database on her species anatomy and genetics on hand and, and OL/SI! Paul not wanting to risk accidentally killing her/making her condition worse?just a suggestion. i know im kinda dense about half the time, but....
as is, the vibe im getting is a bit like "oh sure, i COULD regrow the missing leg that made you an object of mockery and disdain for almost your entire life, but id rather wait and see if you're the bank-robbing sort, whilst you're stuck being an object of ridicule/abuse like most of your childhood/life,after barely escaping an extremely traumatic experience"
im genuinely failing to see how restoring a cripple to her peoples normal standard of physical ability could really backfire SERIOSULY. if she IS cracked on the inside and hiding it, all it'll have done is essentially give her the basic physical abilities of every non-infected member of her race, right?
*is suspecting he missed something somewhere*
maybe refocus the wording a bit more on not having a detailed database on her species anatomy and genetics on hand and, and OL/SI! Paul not wanting to risk accidentally killing her/making her condition worse?just a suggestion. i know im kinda dense about half the time, but....
as is, the vibe im getting is a bit like "oh sure, i COULD regrow the missing leg that made you an object of mockery and disdain for almost your entire life, but id rather wait and see if you're the bank-robbing sort, whilst you're stuck being an object of ridicule/abuse like most of your childhood/life,after barely escaping an extremely traumatic experience"
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- Just hanging
I think it's less of whether or not he can but if he wants to. Sure Paul is the Paragon but it was mostly him fulfilling the desires of his teammates or his own, without doing anything that comprised his own morals or his relationships with the other heroes.
Here he probably could heal her or empower her in some way, but is worried that this could lead to her going down the path of evil. To her the time she spent in the hands of the citadel was terrible but over compared to her situation regarding her status among her people, she admits to carrying out vengeance if Paul didn't already destroy them, and is still bitter especially with her sister.
Remember how Kon still felt inadequate compared to Superman despite being Dannered and having Nth metal armor, until finding a mother figure in Diana that really helped.
Just imagine her showing off the fact she could now fly but everyone else just chalks it up to Paul's intervention, with any future accomplishments being only possible by his intervention, which would pile up on her additional issues resulting in her going evil.
Here he probably could heal her or empower her in some way, but is worried that this could lead to her going down the path of evil. To her the time she spent in the hands of the citadel was terrible but over compared to her situation regarding her status among her people, she admits to carrying out vengeance if Paul didn't already destroy them, and is still bitter especially with her sister.
Remember how Kon still felt inadequate compared to Superman despite being Dannered and having Nth metal armor, until finding a mother figure in Diana that really helped.
Just imagine her showing off the fact she could now fly but everyone else just chalks it up to Paul's intervention, with any future accomplishments being only possible by his intervention, which would pile up on her additional issues resulting in her going evil.
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huh. didnt think of that. i kinda see your point there. i guess i felt like letting the social status quo continue was still pretty likely to lead to her giving UP(like Silvana eventually did after years of his work being ridiculed and actively suppressed) TRYING to be a moral/productive member of society.
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- Earth, 3rd rock from the Sun
You are noticing the red herring and not the implications. What you should be taking from this update is:
1: This is the version of Blackstar that cannot fly because of a disease, and not something genetic.
2: The effects of the disease can be reversed.
3: The people on the planet where OL currently is used to be able to do this.
Not stated in this update but in previous ones.
4: The planet had had its internet and mass transit systems destroyed, cutting off communication.
5: The planet has had its industrial infrastructure gutted.
6: These factors make her statement that now only the Psilons have the knowledge to fix her suspect and unreliable.
7: Vega does not have anti-lantern scanning defenses slapped everywhere willy-nilly.
8: Power Rings can scan an entire planet for information, like books buried in rubble, and inert or isolated computer drives
9: It is vanishingly unlikely that any and all trace of the details of this medical procedure were eradicated planet wide.
He be giving her flight literally every other person on the planet has. It not like healing her injury will lead to her conquering the planet with her awesome power of not being a cripple! But it could help her overcome some of the issues that lead to her becoming a supervillian in the first place. What are the words that just freaking came out of his mouth?
This is something that is bothering her, which he knows from her flash of red when he mentioned Kon being Solar Powered. This is something he can do, that her people currently can't, won't appreciably make a difference if she does turn supervillain, and could very well be the difference from canon that keeps her from going over. Why are we even having this conversation? This is a no-brainer if OL is in any way sincere about the words that are coming out of his mouth.
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- United states
It was mentioned before but not all of the spider guild are 'evil' since I think Zoat mentioned he wasn't doing the planet of hats thing. When the SI got involved there was a possibility of a war breaking out so he got involved which involved trying get everyone involved to try to talk things through to get what they want without everyone starting a war that could kill many innocent people caught in the crossfire. So the SI managed to convinced the local Spider guild expand peacefully. Which has been pretty consistent with the SI's way of doing things which is convince people that villainy isn't the best way to go about things.
As for the supervillain thing? Some people are naturally assholes and driven to villainy because that is just how they are. Someone who naturally enjoys hurting people is likely going to end up a villain because they like it. The fact that they had a tragic backstory could likely be coincidence. An example being Blackfire from the tv series being a villain despite not having her comic characters backstory.
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I agree with other people that the SI not at least attempting to heal Komand'r's ability to fly not making sense. I could understand if he wasn't really invested in the wellbeing Tamaran and it's people, but it's pretty clear that Paul cares, given how much he's iv nesting into securing the planet, and Pomander is both a member of the royal family, and (for some silly reason not known to me) an OLC candidate.
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news, friend. But humans, as a species and as individuals are rarely internally consistent.
EDIT: My personal grammar nazi tells me that a sentence cannot start with but. So, pretend that's a however
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spencer1519
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No I totally get why he's doing it.
He wants to see how she reacts when she's at her worst. Because that's what the orange rings tend to bring out in people. So if he's considering giving her one, healing her completely ruins the purpose of the whole test.
He wants to see how she reacts when she's at her worst. Because that's what the orange rings tend to bring out in people. So if he's considering giving her one, healing her completely ruins the purpose of the whole test.
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- United states
Here is my answer to this:
And to quote someone else:
Power rings are one of the most powerful weapons/tools in the universe. If you are going to give them out you should be damn sure that they aren't going to go villain and/or pull a sinestro. If she doesn't fit Paul's criteria he could just heal her weeks later. As is just because she isn't a villain doesn't mean she may not have the mindset to become one since most versions of Blackfire are villains with animated Blackfire being one even though she didn't have a tragic backstory and was just an asshole.
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See, THAT makes sense to me! Like with Robin - have something she really wants right in front of her, let her get it, and then see what she does once her biggest desire is granted.
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