- Location
- Switzerland
Praexis
Where'd everyone go? I think?
Shoo
With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)
- Thread starter Mr Zoat
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- Somewhere!
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- She/Her
- Location
- texas
2682 and 2814 aren't neighbors either.
Maybe Thanagarians have a lousy sense of direction.
- Location
- Australia
Yes.
His defences are not infallible but more importantly he's not the only one who could be hurt. What if they weren't stun grenades and the bartender takes shrapnel to the throat, what if the announcement to the room was "On my way to give orphans bloodborn diseases for no reason at all"
He didn't know it would be fine because he didn't know anything at all because he wasn't paying attention. That's stupid.
Mizu
Software Developer
- Location
- Victoria, Australia
then eyes of
Where'd everyone go?
Huh. I confess, I didn't think Paul wandering into a bar would have him suffer a case of mistaken identity either.
rkyeun
Cabbitus Maximus
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- ◕ ‿‿ ◕
It's a self-insert. So yes. Anything Zoat is oblivious enough to miss being obvious when writing, so will Paul be. This means suspension of disbelief can't be broken over Paul being oblivious - because Zoat leaving it in makes Zoat exactly that oblivious as well, which justifies it as a self-insert.
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Cantina theme is a go!
Cherico
Machine
Please OL has become so metal that his name has become a power cord, Cantina theme isnt going to cut it.
this kind of comes close
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- Location
- Australia
OMG, I had totally forgotten about that!! You're so right... it's déjà vu all over again.
- Location
- Hampden Park
Thank you, corrected.
It's sort of like how there were Europeans in China in the 16th century. It's a bit of a trek with the technology available, but isn't unthinkably far.
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Cherico
Machine
until he successfully saves the girl, then blackfire will smack that ball right out of his hands, like any good tsundere would.
- Location
- Australia
That slipped my mind at first and though it would be less acceptable for OL I could see it slipping his mind too which is why I don't have too much of a problem with that part.
The problem is that the vast majority of this thread made better situational calls then he did with only the information he personally narrated, this is basic body language and social awareness not some need to remember a specific fact.
OK, yes, it's hilariously oblivious, but it was kind of set up long ago. Paul's only been thinking about Larfleeze as a long-term issue (with the exception of when Blume attacked). He hasn't started doing anything about Larfleeze - not even making more than the vaguest of plans. The bar - and Vega - are immediate issues; they're not in the same thought-bucket. Couple that with the moderately-innocent tourist temptation to experience a few minutes of new things in what everything tells him should be a relatively safe environment, boosted by the fact that he's never previously encountered a highly mixed, highly active, spacefaring multi-species civilization before, and, well... it may have been a recipe for disaster from the beginning, but it was one which had been led up to since almost the first chapter.
Not to mention that it now leads into a new dilemma; does Paul try and find a way to disguise himself, including possibly switching off his orange glow and most of his protection, or does he announce worldwide that there is a good-guy (or at least non-Larfleeze) Orange Lantern on-planet - and hope that information doesn't get back to The Beast? Based on his track record, I'd presume he'd go for the former - he has money and Raggashoon probably has access to quite a few hypertech devices, personal armor etc. Or he can just get the ring to fabricate something a little more anonymous than his current outfit, possibly covering enough to make his species not obvious (or making it look like he's a member of a specific different species). Or will he try and bull through, just telling a bunch of locals that he's not the big L? Does Larfleeze passively scan for mentions of his name, including things like the Vega version of Twitter or Instagram? "OMG saw this guy two minutes ago near #Bob'sBar and almost messed myself but it turns out he's not #TheBeast. [photo photo live_video_feed] Hey #localnewschannel got a scoop for you!"
Not to mention that it now leads into a new dilemma; does Paul try and find a way to disguise himself, including possibly switching off his orange glow and most of his protection, or does he announce worldwide that there is a good-guy (or at least non-Larfleeze) Orange Lantern on-planet - and hope that information doesn't get back to The Beast? Based on his track record, I'd presume he'd go for the former - he has money and Raggashoon probably has access to quite a few hypertech devices, personal armor etc. Or he can just get the ring to fabricate something a little more anonymous than his current outfit, possibly covering enough to make his species not obvious (or making it look like he's a member of a specific different species). Or will he try and bull through, just telling a bunch of locals that he's not the big L? Does Larfleeze passively scan for mentions of his name, including things like the Vega version of Twitter or Instagram? "OMG saw this guy two minutes ago near #Bob'sBar and almost messed myself but it turns out he's not #TheBeast. [photo photo live_video_feed] Hey #localnewschannel got a scoop for you!"
Here you go!
"Bad Reputation" is both a great fight song and appropriate given how the aliens think OL is a super-villain.
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- Location
- Wishing I was somewhere much colder, I asssume.
We don't actually know if they had any effect or not. And considering who they thought they were using them against, Mr. Big Orange himself, I wouldn't be surprised if these were packing a bit more of a punch than OL was expecting.
Anyway, nice to finally see OL's first conversation out in space went exactly as many of us thought it would.
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Breadnaugt
Even in Death, I'm still Tasty
- Location
- Britland
Ring, translation?
"Holy shit. It's the Beast."
"Fuuuckin' Ruuuun!"
No one has ever accused Thanagarians of lacking mettle. Lacking sense and self-preservation instincts, sure, but not mettle.
Well, why would the be expected to know that, it's not like they're the most likely group in the galaxy to encounter a Construct Lantern ... oh wait.
Strunkriidiisk
THE LEGEND
- Location
- Canada
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Ganurath
Literal Enthusiast
- Location
- A Valid Location
- Pronouns
- He/Him
On the other hand, how big is Lantern Tetralophodon on leaving witnesses?
"Why are we sending Thanagarians against Larfleeze?"
"Because that means we don't go against Larfleeze."
"Ah. Good point."
Considering the kind of people who go there, the fact that it's very far away from Thanagar is quite likely the point.
- Location
- sweden
... what part of his recent behaviour has lead you to believe he isn't?
in social settings at least.
lancelot
Completely worth it
I don't think I'm the only person getting sick and fucking tired of his rampant stupidity. There is being obvious, and then there is being a fucking moron. And what's worse is that it never changes it happens over and over and over again without ever learning anything from his many many fuck ups.
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- Location
- Australia
spencer1519
(Verified Heretic)
- Location
- Oregon, USA
He walked into a bar and turned off his translator for a few minutes, then forgot to turn it back on until he tried to talk directly to someone. Completely human behavior. Not making 100% "optimal" "competent" decisions doesn't make you an idiot, or mean you're holding some kind of imaginary trope ball. It means you're a person.
Paul is well established as not being particularly observant of his surroundings if they aren't directly engaging him in some way. He ignores a lot of background stuff and social cues if it doesn't directly effect him. Some people are unobservant. As far as personal flaws go, it's not so bad.
At this point I believe that means its an established character trait that isn't going to be be changing any time soon. As someone with a history of obliviousness and being unobservant, I would like to point out that you don't notice it's an issue unless someone explicitly points it out to you and confronts you with it. And since Paul doesn't really have anyone in-story to not just point out the problem, but also explicitly spell out how the cause is linked to the problem (can't notice being unobservant is causing you problems if you don't know that being unobservant is why you have problems), it's not exactly something he can fix, being completely unaware that there's an issue in the first place.
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