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It still covers most of him and when combined with construct armour makes him tougher than Scott, who has neither.

Scott is a full on New God.

Grayven is a half assed copy.

I think you are underestimating by several orders of magnitude just how big a difference that is.



Basically, Gonzo had superior tech; unfortunately, he's been vaporized, so he can't scan him.

You're right, guess that confirms DCAU New God tech is superior to YJ New God Tech.

Well or Father Box has been sabotaging Grayven.
 
Scott is a full on New God.

Grayven is a half assed copy.

I think you are underestimating by several orders of magnitude just how big a difference that is.

No I'm not. You are assuming that he is significantly frailer than a full New God, even though they vary wildly in toughness and power. You are assuming he is a half assed copy even though you have no idea where he actually stacks up when compared to full New Gods. And you are ignoring equipment, even if he was significantly weaker than Scott for some reason he still has a Power Ring, a Father box and full Apokoliptian body armour.

You are making assumptions with no supporting evidence.
 
Grayven is a half assed copy.
Let me remind you that Grayven Mastered Desaad, Darkseid's right hand man.
Half-assed he is not; he's just not done growing.
You're right, guess that confirms DCAU New God tech is superior to YJ New God Tech.
I don't understand how you came to this conclusion.
We see Grayven scan Scott Free's medical technology and conclude that they are the same tech base.

Father Box had access to what Desaad did, and Desaad is not the New God with access to all top-level Apokoliptian miltech.
Medical/science tech sure; infiltration/combat tech no.
 
Between father box, and his ring nothing warning him that the god damn evil robot had a freakin suitcase nuke in his hand is such complete and utter bulshit.
 
Grayven is a half assed copy.

Grayven told one of the foremost experts on new god metapsychology in the universe that he was the new god of conquest after shredding his own soul. He then made sure said expert had plenty of high quality raw material to rebuild his metaphysique. He's not a half assed copy, If anything he's a somewhat incomplete improved version.
 
Between father box, and his ring nothing warning him that the god damn evil robot had a freakin suitcase nuke in his hand is such complete and utter bulshit.
His new ring has a dodgy AI. And Father Box apparently wasn't instructed to tell him about the presence of nuclear weapons. So it's a combination of Sinestro-ring being bloody stupid and Grayven not thinking to ask for such useful information.
 
I have not given the matter any significant thought. I don't think sending SIs to places where they can't do anything interesting (no way to recharge and not enough meta knowledge) serves any purpose.

It's a valid play style.
actually I have a plans on what to do with a power ring with nearly full charge but no lantrarn similar with what you did at first with regards to your appearance, but also do stuff like increase the elasticity and density of my muscles, strengthen bones etc basically become like your standard atlantean minus the ability to breath under or like captain america and that s just for a start before i would do the whole gene therapy thing to make me genetically as close to perfect as can be, then do a little rewiering of my brain (with a power ring i see it as worth the risk) to enchance my cognative function to high levels (and if it is possible try to download knowlage on various subjects into my brain)
 
Well, Kara might have been infected too. She is acting almost as violent as Barda. Doesn't need to be anti life, just Darkseid bad temper.
 
actually I have a plans on what to do with a power ring with nearly full charge but no lantrarn similar with what you did at first with regards to your appearance, but also do stuff like increase the elasticity and density of my muscles, strengthen bones etc basically become like your standard atlantean minus the ability to breath under or like captain america and that s just for a start before i would do the whole gene therapy thing to make me genetically as close to perfect as can be, then do a little rewiering of my brain (with a power ring i see it as worth the risk) to enchance my cognative function to high levels (and if it is possible try to download knowlage on various subjects into my brain)
Breathe! Breathe!

Some of that would revert due to your body's own upkeep systems and the data you need for genetic rewrites that precise doesn't exist.
 
Well, Kara might have been infected too. She is acting almost as violent as Barda. Doesn't need to be anti life, just Darkseid bad temper.
Kara has been living under red lamps for several months, possibly years now.
And only Gods know what else SHADE has tried to sneak in and her physiology has shrugged off.
You can understand why she'd be a little bad tempered.

Besides, IIRC Kara is either a teenager or a very young woman.
They aren't known for being especially even-tempered, especially towards people they have been fighting.
 
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SHADE agents spotted where he ended up and teleported it to him. Everyone was distracted, it only took a few seconds...
Why didn't they teleport a few soldiers there?

Do they an order that "if someone attacks the President teleport this suitcase and not reinforcements to his location"?
 
Looking at the pictures I'm not seeing any cybernetics. Just fancier armour. Certainly his personality wasn't altered.
Why didn't they teleport a few soldiers there?

Do they an order that "if someone attacks the President teleport this suitcase and not reinforcements to his location"?
That's not what Plan Gamma was. What exactly would a few more soldiers do that the one's he'd already effortlessly slain couldn't have tried?
 
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The funny thing is, the only reason they "won" was because Grayven wanted them too. In a way, he succeeded regardless of the outcome. That's some Xanatos-level play. Literally everything went tits-up and Grayven still managed to pull a win condition out of it. And hell, they(the new JL) might even get credit for stopping the nuke, since I'm pretty sure whatever cameras were still there and still functional were wiped out by some mitigating factor of the blast, hiding the fact that it was only possible because of Grayven in the first place and cementing Grayven's win even more.

Gotta give credit where it's due.
 
That's not what Plan Gamma was. What exactly would a few more soldiers do that the one's he'd already effortlessly slain couldn't have tried?

Flail around ineffectively? Make out with each other? Perform an elaborate musical number? Walk like an Egyptian? Dream of electric sheep? Walk without rhythm so they don't attract the worm? See why kids love the taste of Cinnamon Toast Crunch? Leave home without an American Express card? Wish for Genie to be free?

Plenty of things, really.
 
And Gonzo wasn't?

Gonzo was within arms-reach when the suitcase nuke blew, and he had no power ring.
His armor remained intact, and he was able to punch RenPaul/Grayven without his armor going down, while RenPaul's offensive actions actively damaged his own armor.
Basically, Gonzo had superior tech; unfortunately, he's been vaporized, so he can't scan him.
Not necessarily. His armor could just be thicker.
 
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