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I thought that Map was just going to make sure that Nabu stayed within the intended area, to prevent fleeing and reduce the chances of extreme collateral damage.

For players of this calibre, mobility is just this side of everything.

And as for the collateral damage thing, letting the others hit twice as hard when they couldn't otherwise really has no functional difference from doing half the hitting himself.
 
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You know, if Alan's ring charge gets too low, Paul might ask him to come to Maltus so that he can get a new Lantern as fast as possible. I suspect that it would be an interesting conversation, discussing that possibility - not to mention we might then get Alan's perspective on the Controllers first-hand.
(Are the Controllers able to make a green Lantern if they so choose? Or is their preference for orange something they don't have the materials to bypass if needed?)

I'd say that if the Controllers had the know how to make lanterns or rings from scratch, they'd have done that instead of trying to take the orange lantern, or bothering with the Darkstars or an Effigy corps.

I figure at best they can reverse engineer the technology if Paul gives them some examples.

And the Controllers didn't have any preference for orange, they didn't know which color the battery was.
 
So Doctor fate is a sea monster now? Or why are you guys calling him Naboo?

Not that a sea monster wearing a version of Fate's helmet wouldn't be a tad funny.
 
I'd say that if the Controllers had the know how to make lanterns or rings from scratch, they'd have done that instead of trying to take the orange lantern, or bothering with the Darkstars or an Effigy corps.

I figure at best they can reverse engineer the technology if Paul gives them some examples.

And the Controllers didn't have any preference for orange, they didn't know which color the battery was.
Interesting.
The point about the Darkstars - yeah, they definitely cannot make a lantern themselves, then. They might be able to with the Ophidian on hand, instead of the Orange Central Power Battery - but that won't help with making a Green Lantern, now will it?

I was under the impression that the Controllers were part of the civilization that designed the original rings and had the relevant notes, although I suppose I only assumed that they were Orange-preferring.
 
Oh I thought of a minor DC character who would have multiple ways of springing up in this story- Olivia Reynolds, the world's most infuriating toy marketeer!

She likes to market action figures based on superheroes. I could see it now- Orange Lantern, with giant cake accessory! Teekl and battleform Teekl action figures.

She's also a bisexual who has a thing for superheroes, since she's been a love interest for both Hal Jordan and Ice maiden, Tora's predecessor among the Global Guardians.

She's the one of two known possessors of the Umind, which powers an entire alien civilization. The other one being Aleea Strange, Adam Strange's daughter. Note that the alien civilization is entirely powered by Olivia, if something were to happen to her, then they'd move on to Aleea as their energy source.

Despite the theory that her umind might be the anti-life equation, reading her storyline, it actually seems her power comes from a different source.

"Hunger and fear and pain. Love and joy and the thrill of battle. And deeper. Deeper than emotion. The power that makes my heart beat." Plus Hal increasing Aleea's umind power by giving her some of his green lantern energy.

I don't know about anyone else, but that sounds to me like a Umind taps into the entire emotional spectrum, including life.

Fortunately, or unfortunately, depending on your point of view, it's vulnerable to an extreme version of the centipede dilemma- The human mind is capable of handling this much power, so if a human knows they have this power, it goes away, so Aleea and Olivia can only access it in altered states of consciousness.


Interesting.
The point about the Darkstars - yeah, they definitely cannot make a lantern themselves, then. They might be able to with the Ophidian on hand, instead of the Orange Central Power Battery - but that won't help with making a Green Lantern, now will it?

I was under the impression that the Controllers were part of the civilization that designed the original rings and had the relevant notes, although I suppose I only assumed that they were Orange-preferring.

Krona built the power glove that was the prototype for the green lantern rings, the map to the Orange Central Power Battery (which kind of implies he made it), and kept all the emotional embodiments as pets before the Guardian/Controller split or the Guardians leaving Maltus for Oa.

So they should have the scientific basis for understanding emotional technology, but they have never been shown using it, in the comics, anyway.

In the comics the closest they've gotten is the Miracle Machine- A machine that turns thought into reality, a technology that is even more impressive than the rings really. The Miracle Machine was capable of making an emotional embodiment of hate, who was going to use the miracle machine to wish all the entire universe.
 
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...wonder if it can act similar to Judith's cape

Okay, what is that, how do I get to watch it, and does the mysterious badass evil-looking character appear often? Or is it like Star vs TFoE where the hyper-cool bad guy is only in a few episodes and the main bad guy is kinda generic? (kinda like Teen Titans, now that I think about it)

Also dammit you made me register to SV. Now I'll spend hours dissecting WTR and making witty comments on superhero debates.

EDIT: And according to Google Image Search, this is Julith from the Dofus anime. I did think the style reminded me of Wakfu. Thank you, ominous silicon valley overlords!
 
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The important question to ask: is Laughing Magician power tied to blood or soul? Because from what it looks like, John doesn't have his old body anymore.
Well, although the title only belongs to the Constantine lineage, not all of its bloodline are capable of such feats nor are they worthy of such title, so it might be more of a Soul thing.
 
She's the one of two known possessors of the Umind, which powers an entire alien civilization. The other one being Aleea Strange, Adam Strange's daughter. Note that the alien civilization is entirely powered by Olivia, if something were to happen to her, then they'd move on to Aleea as their energy source.
Didn't that also happen to Fry in Futurama?
 
Wait a second. Going back to Grayven, what if Darkseid thinks he's his son because he actually is his son spiritually? After all cama father box is the one who rebuilt his spiritual Network, and father box was working for Darkseid. What if, spiritually speaking, Paul!Grayven's soul is Grayven!Grayven's soul, and Darkseid doesn't care about the non-spiritual differences (though, since Father Box also changed him from 'Boulder, the rock monster' maybe there are no physical differences either?).
 
I have no idea what the fuck Paul is thinking here. Why is he jumping to nukes before the Ophidian?

I thought that Map was just going to make sure that Nabu stayed within the intended area, to prevent fleeing and reduce the chances of extreme collateral damage.
... The rest of them, though. That's quite the line-up.
And now that I think of it, isn't Jade involved too? Possibly just in the planning phase, but on the other hand - give her a gun that shoots Mageslayers and let her use those assassin skills...

You know, if Alan's ring charge gets too low, Paul might ask him to come to Maltus so that he can get a new Lantern as fast as possible. I suspect that it would be an interesting conversation, discussing that possibility - not to mention we might then get Alan's perspective on the Controllers first-hand.
(Are the Controllers able to make a green Lantern if they so choose? Or is their preference for orange something they don't have the materials to bypass if needed?)

I'd say that if the Controllers had the know how to make lanterns or rings from scratch, they'd have done that instead of trying to take the orange lantern, or bothering with the Darkstars or an Effigy corps.

I figure at best they can reverse engineer the technology if Paul gives them some examples.

And the Controllers didn't have any preference for orange, they didn't know which color the battery was.

Interesting.
The point about the Darkstars - yeah, they definitely cannot make a lantern themselves, then. They might be able to with the Ophidian on hand, instead of the Orange Central Power Battery - but that won't help with making a Green Lantern, now will it?

I was under the impression that the Controllers were part of the civilization that designed the original rings and had the relevant notes, although I suppose I only assumed that they were Orange-preferring.

The Controllers would probably dismantle Alan if Paul Brought him, to try and reverse engineer his partial-pure-willpower existence and then attempt to duplicate it. Which is almost certainly what they've done with that Burning Martian Paul Sent them, allowing them to create Effigy.
the fact that this would Kill Alan would bother them not at all, since he's only a lesser lifeform.
 
The Controllers would probably dismantle Alan if Paul Brought him, to try and reverse engineer his partial-pure-willpower existence and then attempt to duplicate it. Which is almost certainly what they've done with that Burning Martian Paul Sent them, allowing them to create Effigy.
the fact that this would Kill Alan would bother them not at all, since he's only a lesser lifeform.

Actually I think the Controllers would brainwash Burny the burning martian and put him in charge of the Effigy corps.

But that would be too much fun apparently. :)

Anyway, Zoat has indicated he's not going to be going with the "The Controllers are the Maltusians who didn't think the guardians were big enough bastards."

Speaking of lesser lifeforms, the Controllers might actually have the technology to change that- Maltusian Evolution Tapestries. Krona tried to turn Hal and Guy into new Guardians of the Universe for replacing the guardians after he killed them all.

Not that I'm holding my breath, but I can see it now- "OL, why is Alan now under 4 feet tall?" "Old people shrink, it's impolite to comment about it!"
 
I suppose John, The Laughing Magician, Lord of Chaos, Agent of Balance, will have to possess an anchor whenever he travels to another plane of existence.

Will it be his trademarked trench coat, or is that too obvious?
 
I'm a little worried that once Nabu is offed, his replacement will likely be John's deceased twin brother, The Golden Boy.

The fact his spirit didn't try to hijack John's ascension is REALLY ominous, and considering that Goldy seems to be the type to say things like, "The Greater Good", or "Righting The World"....
 
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That went far too smoothly for any plan involving Constantine to be truly what happened.

Nah, it's just Act 1 of a new clusterfuck. The set-up, if you will.

Some scenes from Constantines perspective about him dealing with becoming a major player in the magical world would be great.

If his trench coat is now his familiar, it is probably now a fully mobile entity in its own right.
Think about it; now it can get itself laundered and cleaned at a high end laundromat, and take itself to a tailor to get repaired and spruced up, all while paying for everything with his owners wallet.
Of course, now constantine has to deal with all the money his trenchcoat has spent, as well as all the magical contamination that was spread when all the magical gunk was washed off.

I can totally see it sucker"punching" a guy standing behind John in the balls like a more subdued Cloak of Levitation.


Wait a second. Going back to Grayven, what if Darkseid thinks he's his son because he actually is his son spiritually? After all cama father box is the one who rebuilt his spiritual Network, and father box was working for Darkseid. What if, spiritually speaking, Paul!Grayven's soul is Grayven!Grayven's soul, and Darkseid doesn't care about the non-spiritual differences (though, since Father Box also changed him from 'Boulder, the rock monster' maybe there are no physical differences either?).

That's the leading theory, yes. His soul was made to fit The Apokoliptian New God of Conquest therefore he IS The Apokoliptian New God of Conquest, whose name is Grayven. I wouldn't say that Darkseid doesn't care about the non-spiritual differences at all but he is apparently willing to entertain the possibility to be ok with the situation.
 
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