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I mean if I were Brain I would have everyone else monitored, and the moment Grayven started his little rampage I would have escaped to a pocket dimension somewhere and activated the dozen or so fail-safes I put in place for just such an occurrence.

Hell, if I was the Brain, and was crazy enough to live inside a metal roaming shell, one of the first things I would do would be to find a way to copy my intelligence and clone it into a new body... or even another brain-in-a-jar. It should be much easier to clone an individual organ, and since he's got the tech to keep that organ (the brain) alive then he could probably mass-produce his travel machines and clone copies of his own brain, probably even improving on the biochemical structure of his brain to ensure the clones are smarter than he himself.

So... yeah... I'd consider the Brain to be the one member most likely to pull some kind of cloning shenanigan where the original goes off somewhere nobody knows about and hides while a virtually identical copy of himself might be found by Grayven. Or the get the original and there's a bunch of clones who show up later to continue his work.
 
...let me guess....he's going to have miss Nyugen have a few hours with him afterwards?
 
As a direct question to any Mods reading this, how does LordSquishy's latest announcement affect us in this thread? Specifically, when I post corrections to MrZoat's story, I "spaghetti post" in order to clip it down to the appropriate area that needs correcting (both as a way of saving space but also to let MrZoat know exactly where my corrections are aimed at), then post the correction afterwards. Will I still be allowed to do so, or am I expected to quote the entire story snippet and add my corrections at the end, in a "monograph" as suggested in the link above?
 
As a direct question to any Mods reading this, how does LordSquishy's latest announcement affect us in this thread? Specifically, when I post corrections to MrZoat's story, I "spaghetti post" in order to clip it down to the appropriate area that needs correcting (both as a way of saving space but also to let MrZoat know exactly where my corrections are aimed at), then post the correction afterwards. Will I still be allowed to do so, or am I expected to quote the entire story snippet and add my corrections at the end, in a "monograph" as suggested in the link above?
That's about bad conduct in discussion. It doesn't really relate to what you're doing.
 
Hard to wait for what happens next. I know it has been said that martial arts don't let super strength any more power but assimilating so much fighting Ra's and Savage has going to affect Grayven's fighting style. Maybe more brutal or more fluid than it was before.
 
I can't see any realistic way anyone we know of who works for Grayven could take out Brain.

Especially since the guy probably has a couple dozen different deadman switches wired to his chassis that they wouldn't be able to deactivate.

Heck the only reason I would give Grayven better then even odds is that he has access to two Power Rings and a Father Box that he can use to hack Brains tech.
I can.

Now that Savage and Ra's are gone, the only source of funding for the Light is Lex, who isn't going to be touching it with a ten foot pole after this shitstorm, and I'm pretty sure the funding is the only thing keeping the Brain there. Grayven just has to offer him a fake body, a new identity so he doesn't get arrested and access to his space mining fuelled resources and he's got a pet mad scientist of his very own.
 
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I don't know, wasn't there one comic storyline that had Ra's body-stealing from his daughters? He might try that escape route since Graven has helpfully supplied one to him at this critical moment.

if we are thinking of the same one, he used a machine to do it. Ra doesn't really have much going for him in the personal abilities department aside from being an excellent manager.
 
I kind of have to wonder if leaving Brain for last was the best idea?
He may not be personally attending to the Brain, but he did send Chester, Amane and Mister Tawny at least.
the sad thing? If the light had put aside their personal bull they really could have made the world a much better place.
And doesn't the Renegade know it.
"And we will. Under my control."
Not exactly. The Renegade isn't a control freak. He doesn't really mind other people doing things or getting credit. As he says here, he's perfectly happy for full credit to go to the 4th Fleet.
Who's saying this, Batman or Grayven?
Does it really sound like something Batman would say?
I don't know, wasn't there one comic storyline that had Ra's body-stealing from his daughters? He might try that escape route since Graven has helpfully supplied one to him at this critical moment.
I don't know about that, but there was a Batman of the Future episode where he was shown to have dubbed his brain onto Talia and then tried to do the same to Mister Wayne.
I'll also say that I don't think Catwoman is a good match for him either. Seriously. Bruce needs to stop banging his female villains. If you have to plow someone from the super community, find a hero.
Mister Wayne is generally shown to prefer heroines to heroes. And Catwoman as she is now isn't such a bad match.
As a direct question to any Mods reading this, how does LordSquishy's latest announcement affect us in this thread? Specifically, when I post corrections to MrZoat's story, I "spaghetti post" in order to clip it down to the appropriate area that needs correcting (both as a way of saving space but also to let MrZoat know exactly where my corrections are aimed at), then post the correction afterwards. Will I still be allowed to do so, or am I expected to quote the entire story snippet and add my corrections at the end, in a "monograph" as suggested in the link above?
 
I think the spaghetti posting (as in, people replying to every line of someone's post, in a word mess).

Zoat does it to reply to multiple people, and I don't quite think fic corrections count.
 
Now that Savage and Ra's are gone, the only source of funding for the Light is Lex, who isn't going to be touching it with a ten foot pole after this shitstorm, and I'm pretty sure the funding is the only thing keeping the Brain there.
I've pretty sure Lex doesn't have much choice in the matter, even.

"LexCorp?"

"Pursuing LexCorp is a little.. legally awkward. But what he's done has well and truly crossed the line. Lex will be presented with an offer he can't refuse. If he's sensible, he won't try."

He glowers, though given how gifted he is in the glowering department that might well be his neutral expression. "Luthor."

"Actually, no. He's being unsubtly watched by the FBI.
Basically, he's a non-superpowered guy who has got the gaze of the Burning Eye of Sauron upon him close, personal attention of an angry US government. One that isn't interested in listening to excuses anymore. Plausible deniability isn't going to cut it, not with the US in full "have the Navy flatten the island" mode.
 
actually, I wonder if lex is going to come through this in any decent shape. Oh sure he's good, but they probably have logs of him shaking hands with kalrion, and that's being caught praising Hitler level catastrophic. Lex may dodge jail time, but his reputation is going to be shot.
 
He may not be personally attending to the Brain, but he did send Chester, Amane and Mister Tawny at least.
Aren't those all minions who have long been know to the Light? o_O

And traps and mechanisms to counter their abilities aside I can't really see how they would be able to disable any of the multitude of deadman switches Brain likely has.

Or even think to look out for them given Mister Tawny is the best long term planner of the three. :lol
 
actually, I wonder if lex is going to come through this in any decent shape. Oh sure he's good, but they probably have logs of him shaking hands with kalrion, and that's being caught praising Hitler level catastrophic. Lex may dodge jail time, but his reputation is going to be shot.
Shaking hands, no. They have logs of his discussing things with Klarion, but they also have logs of him asking Grayven to kill Klarion, and Lex could reasonably claim that he had no way to get rid of Klarion before that.
 
"Funnily enough, so am I.
Yeah, this is just fucking dumb.

From a purely utilitarian PoV, wiping the League defangs Talia, and having something to hold over Batman is solid platinum, redeemable in any currency you could name. Especially given how he's going after the British govt sooner or later.
And it's not like he has an ethical leg to stand on either, given some of the people he's currently working with.

Won't be the first time that Grayven has fucked himself over, of course; at least this time he currently has the excuse of being under the influence of repeated mindripping other people. Guess that's what happens when you absorb Vandal Savage; you get tainted by his stupidity.
 
Yeah, this is just fucking dumb.

From a purely utilitarian PoV, wiping the League defangs Talia, and having something to hold over Batman is solid platinum, redeemable in any currency you could name. Especially given how he's going after the British govt sooner or later.
And it's not like he has an ethical leg to stand on either, given some of the people he's currently working with.

Won't be the first time that Grayven has fucked himself over, of course; at least this time he currently has the excuse of being under the influence of repeated mindripping other people. Guess that's what happens when you absorb Vandal Savage; you get tainted by his stupidity.
Part of what I enjoy about Grayven is how his hubris and hypocrisy is slowly setting himself up for a massive downfall. Its almost like he's incapable of not needlessly pissing off everyone involved whenever he does something.
 
Hmm. I wonder how effective Sumo would be as a martial art for people with super toughness. As a combat form it emphasizes control, positioning, and stability, instead of the blocks and evasion that other martial arts focus on.

It seemed to work fine for Sonny Sumo, the man with the anti-life equation in his head.

I didn't know dc had supernatural martial artists? I mean marvel has iron fist etc. anybody got any names I can look up?

O-Sensei lived to the age of 150 years thanks to martial arts training.

Sensei from the Human Race, either from enlightenment and/or supernatural martial arts, basically has soul fu.

Peter Cannon: Thunderbolt's monastic training included how to unlock such feats as biofeedback, telepathy, clairvoyance, and telekinesis. In Kingdom Come, his powers made him superfast as well.

Karate Kid in Legion of Superheroes, despite supposedly not having any superpowers, has won in combat against kryptonians and daxamites. He can also sense the weak points in objects (to break metal with his bare hands), and has some control over his body, and resisting mind control. Can also dodge lasers and lightning, but perhaps that's just from living in a comic book.

Richard Dragon has demonstrated some chi powers, I understand, using the Dragon's claw as a focus.

Judomaster in L.A.W. basically hadn't aged in the last 50 years and was able to "will himself" out of restraints.

But yes, considering how many characters DC has, they obviously aren't too fond of supernatural martial arts over there.

i felt a bit bad for talia until i remembered she over a hundred years old mass murderer and then i felt life imprisonment seems pretty darn fair considering she has had chances over the years to give it up.

Did Zoat make her older and I failed to notice? The year 2069 is a bit of time away. :)

Oh I guess I should explain the joke- Talia was conceived at Woodstock in the comics
 
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As a direct question to any Mods reading this, how does LordSquishy's latest announcement affect us in this thread? Specifically, when I post corrections to MrZoat's story, I "spaghetti post" in order to clip it down to the appropriate area that needs correcting (both as a way of saving space but also to let MrZoat know exactly where my corrections are aimed at), then post the correction afterwards. Will I still be allowed to do so, or am I expected to quote the entire story snippet and add my corrections at the end, in a "monograph" as suggested in the link above?
That announcement is meant to prevent spaghetti posting in arguments. Because when it's used to argue against someone, it leads to a spiral of pointless nitpicking.

Chopping up posts like that is perfectly acceptable to list typos or give detailed feedback on a chapter. These things don't beget more pasta.
 
Ugh . . . You did it again.

I get that's what some sick, twisted people forced on you and it isn't really your fault and all . . . But every time you say Batman of the Future instead of Batman Beyond? It hurts.

And Ra's did more than steal Talia's body, zhuul. In order to sell the ruse, Ra's at the very least made out with Bruce while pretending to be his own damn daughter.

Though I always thought it was a little weird that the rejuvenation wore off as fast as it did for Bruce. Is rubberband aging normal for Lazarus Pits? I would have thought you'd at the very least get to age at a normal rate after a dunking.

Oh, and I might have asked this long ago in the days of Space Battles, but no harm in asking again if that's the case.

Overall, what did you think of Batman Beyond?
 
This is assuming you WANT to splatter them. Martial arts training is useful for learning how to control your opponents without necessarily injuring them.
But Power Rings can restrain them so much easier, and from beyond arm's reach.

What was that all of five minutes before repeating the same mistake he made at the start of the episode...
no, his error wasn't in assimilating Savage, it was that, when he dismissed the new construct to his Ring, he got a load of data uploaded to his brain (like a Shadow clone in Naruto), as long as he just gates the Assimilated Ras back to his base and waits to dismiss him, he can put off the headache.

I actually wonder if Grayven might fail to assimilate Ra's. Unlike the largely greedy and hedonistic Savage, Ra's actually seems to be crazy enough to believe his propaganda on some levels, and has a greater level of self-control, as well as some degree of mystical talent, if not high level such. I suspect Ra's has a much higher chance of being able to defend against assimilation than Savage, not a sure thing of course, but a possibility. At the very least, I could see it taking longer and taking more effort than it did with Savage.
Ra's probably won't be nearly as fast/easy as Vandal, but Grayven can certainly wait a few minutes to get it done (Savage was done in a few seconds)

I don't know, wasn't there one comic storyline that had Ra's body-stealing from his daughters? He might try that escape route since Graven has helpfully supplied one to him at this critical moment.
And was this using a device he could carry around on his person? because there's no way he could have expected Nyssa to pop up in that particular location/time.

actually, I wonder if lex is going to come through this in any decent shape. Oh sure he's good, but they probably have logs of him shaking hands with kalrion, and that's being caught praising Hitler level catastrophic. Lex may dodge jail time, but his reputation is going to be shot.
Grayven also learned that Lex voted against the 'Summon Titan' plan, so that's in his favor.

Yeah, this is just fucking dumb.

From a purely utilitarian PoV, wiping the League defangs Talia, and having something to hold over Batman is solid platinum, redeemable in any currency you could name. Especially given how he's going after the British govt sooner or later.
And it's not like he has an ethical leg to stand on either, given some of the people he's currently working with.

Won't be the first time that Grayven has fucked himself over, of course; at least this time he currently has the excuse of being under the influence of repeated mindripping other people. Guess that's what happens when you absorb Vandal Savage; you get tainted by his stupidity.
This may piss off Batman, but the US government will be happy with him. And if he really needs some hold over Batman, Grayven can always threaten to reveal his true identity. And it's not like he's trying to Kill her, Grayven also wants Talia alive (plus taking her alive will probably help with his recruitment of Nyssa)
 
Though I always thought it was a little weird that the rejuvenation wore off as fast as it did for Bruce. Is rubberband aging normal for Lazarus Pits? I would have thought you'd at the very least get to age at a normal rate after a dunking.
I always thought it was writers' fiat. To the best of my knowledge/guesswork the fast re-aging... and why it only stopped when he got back to more or less to how old he was before is another questionable detail... would at best happen to someone who had been exposed so repeatedly/often as to become dependent on them to survive. But they (the writers) couldn't have Bruce be young again since the whole setup was "Young successor and old curmudgeon mentor" for the show. So back to the status quo it was.
 
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no, his error wasn't in assimilating Savage, it was that, when he dismissed the new construct to his Ring, he got a load of data uploaded to his brain (like a Shadow clone in Naruto), as long as he just gates the Assimilated Ras back to his base and waits to dismiss him, he can put off the headache.
Given that Assimilation a 50,000 year old guy only gave him a bad headache, I doubt the 700 year old guy would be an issue anyway.

And was this using a device he could carry around on his person? because there's no way he could have expected Nyssa to pop up in that particular location/time.
Nah, the brain-transfer thing was a big deal. Lots of prep-work, specialist equipment, the works. Most definitely not casual body jumping.
 
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