Grayven: "You put a Constantine in your power ring? Even I think that's a bad idea, and I have a Sinestro living in my ring!"
With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)
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I got my sweet revenge against Blue Lantern by tossing the Demon Constantine into that universe.
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Well, he did, kind of, but due to certain events there was a high turnover - at least two times in three months - in the Light, only Savage stayed constant. I don't know what I did to get that.
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No, actually you're right and that IS his name.
daimahou
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And his friends can call him "The", don't forget that.
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the natural counterpoint being: "considering that 2/3 of the harm he causes is due to his lack of access to better knowledge,tools and methods due to anyone with the ability or authority to provide them shunning him, thus CONSTANTLY worsening the situation....yes?"
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Also that kind of assumes those methods would even work.
Chantinelle was created as a demon by likely Lucifer or God themselves, which probably gives her a certain malleability.
Evil Constantine is something else entirely.
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I think it is his name? I think one of the last few snippets had Paul mention this, or Zoat did in a comment replying to another comment?
Zoat did.
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Actually, I do believe that Constantine's life being the way it is because the twin brother that John strangled in the womb uses his magical probability manipulation powers to run his life like a sim.
And until Paul say steals the Amos Fortune stelleration technology, there's not much he can do about it from this end.
Unless he'd like to go to that alternate universe and have a word with Emperor of Man John Constantine.
Unless this is after Constantine merged with Golden Boy, I'm not really good with how Vertigo chronology matches DC proper, since time actually passes in Vertigo, DC not so much...
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Hestia&theCourt
Turns out we're plural too.
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The fact that you think John Constantine, of all people, would end up as the golden savior of mankind on a pedestal, rather than as an unholy abomination that cannibalized the Chaos Gods, is hilarious to me.
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Okay, first of all, I'm talking about stuff that actually happened in the comics.
Second of all, you misunderstood. Emperor of Man John Constantine is the twin John killed in the womb, "golden boy." In the world in which the other twin was born, he was named John Constantine, and became the most powerful magician ever and to know him was to love him, and to not know him was to love him from afar, and he used his magical talent for probability manipulation (with which he could troll the gods themselves) to mess with his twin brother from another universe.
Yes, Golden Boy John Constantine was pretty much John "Mary Sue" Constantine, he even brought Earth into a golden age.
He gave John lung cancer for example. Since that's an example of Golden Boy John Constantine showing his affection, kind of leads one to believe he probably has something to do with John being a reverse King Midas- everything he touches turns to shit.
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Hestia&theCourt
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...what the actual heck i don't even.
The flip of that, not to derail, is What would happen if John didn't get lung cancer.
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It's a very dumb story line.
Empiricist2
Let's play doctor!
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DC in a nutshell.
I mean really, if power rings were used as more than blunt instruments in the comics then this story never would have gained traction.
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So you're saying we should be thankful for DC's mediocre writers, then?
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Funny you worded it like that. The magical power over luck that Golden Boy used to be the Mary Sue of his reality and mess with John from a reality away- John has the same potential, it's a family trick.
So just let that roll around in your head- John "The universe itself hates me" Constantine has luck powers.
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Isn't it the same thing he uses to fast travel occasionally? So he knows the trick, but he either can't match the scale or chooses not to.
frozenchicken
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Or maybe he does use his luck powers. Imagine how bad his life would be if he didn't.
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Recall how OL pointed out that it was lucky those demons he manipulated into healing his cancer didn't think of doing any of the awful things that OL thought of.
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I suppose one possible way it could happen is if he can't apply the power to a scenario that's already been affected by probability manipulation, then that would mean that any time his more fortunate counterpart improved his own life, John can't do anything about the backlash.
It might also be that the run of bad luck has left him in places where an outright "good" ending simply has such low probability that even boosting those numbers doesn't make it likely that fate will roll a high enough number.
It might also be that the run of bad luck has left him in places where an outright "good" ending simply has such low probability that even boosting those numbers doesn't make it likely that fate will roll a high enough number.
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