And because he's making fun of them.
With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)
- Thread starter Mr Zoat
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When Thor met his great-grandfather, his ice golems supposedly were also able to lift Mjolnir, and Thor didn't find anything odd with that explanation.
Thor met him during one of the many times Odin was dead, and believed that Buri was Odin in disguise, the fact that Mjolnir was brought in while Thor was unconscious was seen as proof by him, since Odin can lift Mjolnir too.
However, it was later shown that Buri can in fact lift the hammer, so it's possible he was lying, but if he was it was an unnecessary lie, since the list of those who can lift Mjolnir in the comics is a lot bigger than just Thor and Odin.
Hardly true, they defeated the Empire of Tears which spanned three galaxies, and they have an entire freaking galaxy in a prison cell.
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Zigzag (supplementary, Renegade option)
- Location
- Hampden Park
4th May
10:09 GMT -6
I step out of the boom tube into the mildly landscaped ruins of Challengerville. One of Jean's ongoing projects is directing the G-Trolls and G-Elves to do a bit of a tidy up, but I didn't want them to remove anything structural. Just as the US military dumps spare tanks to create havens for marine life, these ruins are now home to many different types of insects, birds and small mammals, to say nothing of all of the plant species.
"Hi Grayven."
Zatanna is in full costume… Or rather, armour. The same armour I created for her. It seems that she hasn't taken advantage of Scott's services. That pleases me. I'd judge that the gold glow is a little brighter than last time I saw her, but… That was a while ago. I should probably have done more in that regard.
Wallace merely nods at me. He's in costume as well.
I bow. "Once again... Welcome to my home. Come freely. Go safely; and leave something of the happiness you bring."
Zatanna's face goes blank for a moment, then she gets it and giggles. Wallace looks slightly perturbed. "I'm sure that was some kinda movie quote, but can you just get on with whatever you wanted us for? I've got plans for this week."
"As you wish. There is something… Somethings I wish to show you. But first… Zatanna, that commission I asked you to investigate..?"
Wallace glances at her with a slight frown. She looks down for a moment. "I can do it. But… You're with the Light now. I'm not sure I should."
Wallace's eyes narrow. "What commission?"
I decide to spare Zatanna the awkwardness. "A personal mana infusion device. It would increase the recharge rate of a mage and rapidly improve the growth of a New God's soul structures. I can create a crude approximation myself-" Or at least get Sunset to do it. "-but it would require the user to remain in one place while it's active."
"Whow. No. Zatanna, you can't."
"Wallace, what do you think the Light is trying to do?"
"Take over the world. Wipe out the Justice League. Have.. Tuesday renamed 'Savageday'! They're bad guys."
"Sort of, eventually, no… Ye-eah, okay, you've got me on the last one." I open a boom tube behind me. "Can we walk and talk?"
Wallace and Zatanna look each other in the eyes for a moment, then head towards me at a slow walking pace. I turn and lead the way through the tube into the lower part of the Mountain. "I'm sure you've read my reports on my initial meetings with the Light, but to reiterate: the Light wants to advance the lot of the mass of humanity. They see the League as a plaster over-. A band aid over a wound, falsely giving the impression that the problem is dealt with while actually encouraging people to remain indolent. Savage wants to defeat the League, mind control, kill them all, whatever. I think that's putting the cart before the horse. If we're successful, the League will be largely obsolete. Until we are, they do an essential job and it makes more sense to work around them."
"I am a member of the Light, which means that I can vote on policy and objectives. If Savage proposes an anti-League initiative which serves no other purpose, I say so, point out what else could be done with those resources and vote against. If my argument is rational, Lex, Brain and Ra's -who doesn't really mind mass murder but is actually pretty logical - vote with me. Mordru votes with Savage and they lose."
No local space coilgun for Savage. I mean, really. All the effort it would take and agents we'd have to burn to get it there and it wouldn't last more than five minutes after its first shot. I'm glad that at least Ra's learned his lesson from last time.
"On the other hand, if someone proposes a course of action that actually benefits humanity then I speak out in favour and it gets enacted."
I can feel Wallace's confusion. "So you think you're neutralizing-? Wait, Mordru!?"
"Didn't know about him? Yeah, one out, one in, as far as Lords of Chaos go. How's Miss Kane doing?"
"What? Ah. Okay..? As well as she can."
"Was my guess-?"
He looks away. "Yeah."
Ah. Unfortunate, but it's inevitable that a few first manifestations of metahuman powers would be destructive to their possessors' surroundings. And the people most likely to be in those surroundings… Sad, but there's not much I can do about it. "I realised afterwards that I should have known that it was something serious."
"What, because I came to you?"
"No, because you didn't try hitting on Sunset."
"Who's hitting on me?" Sunset emerges from a junction and falls in behind me, taking a moment to look Zatanna over. Magic goddess, meet someone who wants exactly what you have.
"Wallace wasn't. Zatanna Zatara, Sunset Shimmer. She's here to study magic."
Zatanna smiles at her. "Hi."
"Hey."
"Yeah, I guess it.. kinda put me off my game."
"Oh, you." Sunset looks him over, then appears to dismiss him. "There wouldn't be much point. I don't actually find Humans physically attractive."
Wallace frowns. "You.. don't..?" The frown is replaced with a squint. "Huh. Well, what do you find attractive, then?"
"Ponies."
He blinks, then jerks his head away. "Oh, I'm so not touching that one." He refocuses his attention on me. "Where are you taking us, anyway?"
"The vaults. It's where we keep the children I'm using as test subjects."
"Yeah, that's not as funny as you think it is."
The heavily reinforced door in front of me slides open with a quiet hiss. "Who's joking?"
Lynne is standing next to the cell containing-. I get a moment's dizziness before I stop trying to think the name. Ugh, my old name. He's in his early teens, a little older than she is. His brothers and sisters are in the other cages. Eight in total and he's the oldest of them. All the survivors of one of John Constantine's fuck ups. I'm pretty sure that I got all of them, but I left some monitoring equipment on Gruinard Island just in case.
Sunset walks over to Lynne while Zatanna and Wallace stop dead. The cells are designed to have a 'public' section and a private section, though all areas are monitored around the clock. Each one has its own toilet and shower unit, though curiously they don't produce much in the way of waste material. And I've found it's important that they can see and talk to each other all of the time. After all, they're all the company they've known for nearly their entire lives.
Zatanna's eyes widen in horror. "What are you doing here?"
"Helping them." Lynne steps away from the cell while the young man within walks around the edge until he's facing me. "Young man, would you mind providing my guests with a demonstration?"
He gives me a small shrug. I have talked with him about what I'm trying to achieve here, but I can hardly blame him for not being more enthusiastic.
Activate.
It only takes a second for him to get the scent. His eyes dart around his cell, his nose sniffing constantly. He winces, trying to resist. He's an extremely responsible young man, especially considering his circumstances.
"What are you doing!" Zatanna's eyes are blazing with golden light, triquetra forming around her hands.
"Offering him food."
And then the change happens. His face elongates, his skin darkens and his fingers sprout claws. He gets his clothes -sweat shirt and jogging bottoms- off before his body's change rips them, but after that his coordination fails him and he collapses against the inside of the clear dividing wall. His eyes turn red, the muscles on his shoulders grow and membranous wings sprout under his arms. His mouth opens and displays his pearly white fangs.
He's still fully intelligent like this. But -like the rest- he just can't resist the hunger.
"A fascinating case. He and his siblings are Vampire-Succubus hybrids. They can only feed on adults, and they don't have enough self control to stop themselves. When I found them, they'd been living in starvation conditions on a small island, having eaten both their mother and their four older siblings. I'm trying to help them learn to control their instincts." The youth regains his balance, hunched over as his gait now is. I deactivate the pheromone sprays. "That, plus I've been using the G-Gnomes to educate them."
"Hello." His voice is raspy but coherent.
Wallace's mouth is still open. Zatanna closes her hands.
"This is what I do with my time. Advancing the interests of humanity without punching people in the face. When was the last time anyone in the League tried something like this?"
10:09 GMT -6
I step out of the boom tube into the mildly landscaped ruins of Challengerville. One of Jean's ongoing projects is directing the G-Trolls and G-Elves to do a bit of a tidy up, but I didn't want them to remove anything structural. Just as the US military dumps spare tanks to create havens for marine life, these ruins are now home to many different types of insects, birds and small mammals, to say nothing of all of the plant species.
"Hi Grayven."
Zatanna is in full costume… Or rather, armour. The same armour I created for her. It seems that she hasn't taken advantage of Scott's services. That pleases me. I'd judge that the gold glow is a little brighter than last time I saw her, but… That was a while ago. I should probably have done more in that regard.
Wallace merely nods at me. He's in costume as well.
I bow. "Once again... Welcome to my home. Come freely. Go safely; and leave something of the happiness you bring."
Zatanna's face goes blank for a moment, then she gets it and giggles. Wallace looks slightly perturbed. "I'm sure that was some kinda movie quote, but can you just get on with whatever you wanted us for? I've got plans for this week."
"As you wish. There is something… Somethings I wish to show you. But first… Zatanna, that commission I asked you to investigate..?"
Wallace glances at her with a slight frown. She looks down for a moment. "I can do it. But… You're with the Light now. I'm not sure I should."
Wallace's eyes narrow. "What commission?"
I decide to spare Zatanna the awkwardness. "A personal mana infusion device. It would increase the recharge rate of a mage and rapidly improve the growth of a New God's soul structures. I can create a crude approximation myself-" Or at least get Sunset to do it. "-but it would require the user to remain in one place while it's active."
"Whow. No. Zatanna, you can't."
"Wallace, what do you think the Light is trying to do?"
"Take over the world. Wipe out the Justice League. Have.. Tuesday renamed 'Savageday'! They're bad guys."
"Sort of, eventually, no… Ye-eah, okay, you've got me on the last one." I open a boom tube behind me. "Can we walk and talk?"
Wallace and Zatanna look each other in the eyes for a moment, then head towards me at a slow walking pace. I turn and lead the way through the tube into the lower part of the Mountain. "I'm sure you've read my reports on my initial meetings with the Light, but to reiterate: the Light wants to advance the lot of the mass of humanity. They see the League as a plaster over-. A band aid over a wound, falsely giving the impression that the problem is dealt with while actually encouraging people to remain indolent. Savage wants to defeat the League, mind control, kill them all, whatever. I think that's putting the cart before the horse. If we're successful, the League will be largely obsolete. Until we are, they do an essential job and it makes more sense to work around them."
"I am a member of the Light, which means that I can vote on policy and objectives. If Savage proposes an anti-League initiative which serves no other purpose, I say so, point out what else could be done with those resources and vote against. If my argument is rational, Lex, Brain and Ra's -who doesn't really mind mass murder but is actually pretty logical - vote with me. Mordru votes with Savage and they lose."
No local space coilgun for Savage. I mean, really. All the effort it would take and agents we'd have to burn to get it there and it wouldn't last more than five minutes after its first shot. I'm glad that at least Ra's learned his lesson from last time.
"On the other hand, if someone proposes a course of action that actually benefits humanity then I speak out in favour and it gets enacted."
I can feel Wallace's confusion. "So you think you're neutralizing-? Wait, Mordru!?"
"Didn't know about him? Yeah, one out, one in, as far as Lords of Chaos go. How's Miss Kane doing?"
"What? Ah. Okay..? As well as she can."
"Was my guess-?"
He looks away. "Yeah."
Ah. Unfortunate, but it's inevitable that a few first manifestations of metahuman powers would be destructive to their possessors' surroundings. And the people most likely to be in those surroundings… Sad, but there's not much I can do about it. "I realised afterwards that I should have known that it was something serious."
"What, because I came to you?"
"No, because you didn't try hitting on Sunset."
"Who's hitting on me?" Sunset emerges from a junction and falls in behind me, taking a moment to look Zatanna over. Magic goddess, meet someone who wants exactly what you have.
"Wallace wasn't. Zatanna Zatara, Sunset Shimmer. She's here to study magic."
Zatanna smiles at her. "Hi."
"Hey."
"Yeah, I guess it.. kinda put me off my game."
"Oh, you." Sunset looks him over, then appears to dismiss him. "There wouldn't be much point. I don't actually find Humans physically attractive."
Wallace frowns. "You.. don't..?" The frown is replaced with a squint. "Huh. Well, what do you find attractive, then?"
"Ponies."
He blinks, then jerks his head away. "Oh, I'm so not touching that one." He refocuses his attention on me. "Where are you taking us, anyway?"
"The vaults. It's where we keep the children I'm using as test subjects."
"Yeah, that's not as funny as you think it is."
The heavily reinforced door in front of me slides open with a quiet hiss. "Who's joking?"
Lynne is standing next to the cell containing-. I get a moment's dizziness before I stop trying to think the name. Ugh, my old name. He's in his early teens, a little older than she is. His brothers and sisters are in the other cages. Eight in total and he's the oldest of them. All the survivors of one of John Constantine's fuck ups. I'm pretty sure that I got all of them, but I left some monitoring equipment on Gruinard Island just in case.
Sunset walks over to Lynne while Zatanna and Wallace stop dead. The cells are designed to have a 'public' section and a private section, though all areas are monitored around the clock. Each one has its own toilet and shower unit, though curiously they don't produce much in the way of waste material. And I've found it's important that they can see and talk to each other all of the time. After all, they're all the company they've known for nearly their entire lives.
Zatanna's eyes widen in horror. "What are you doing here?"
"Helping them." Lynne steps away from the cell while the young man within walks around the edge until he's facing me. "Young man, would you mind providing my guests with a demonstration?"
He gives me a small shrug. I have talked with him about what I'm trying to achieve here, but I can hardly blame him for not being more enthusiastic.
Activate.
It only takes a second for him to get the scent. His eyes dart around his cell, his nose sniffing constantly. He winces, trying to resist. He's an extremely responsible young man, especially considering his circumstances.
"What are you doing!" Zatanna's eyes are blazing with golden light, triquetra forming around her hands.
"Offering him food."
And then the change happens. His face elongates, his skin darkens and his fingers sprout claws. He gets his clothes -sweat shirt and jogging bottoms- off before his body's change rips them, but after that his coordination fails him and he collapses against the inside of the clear dividing wall. His eyes turn red, the muscles on his shoulders grow and membranous wings sprout under his arms. His mouth opens and displays his pearly white fangs.
He's still fully intelligent like this. But -like the rest- he just can't resist the hunger.
"A fascinating case. He and his siblings are Vampire-Succubus hybrids. They can only feed on adults, and they don't have enough self control to stop themselves. When I found them, they'd been living in starvation conditions on a small island, having eaten both their mother and their four older siblings. I'm trying to help them learn to control their instincts." The youth regains his balance, hunched over as his gait now is. I deactivate the pheromone sprays. "That, plus I've been using the G-Gnomes to educate them."
"Hello." His voice is raspy but coherent.
Wallace's mouth is still open. Zatanna closes her hands.
"This is what I do with my time. Advancing the interests of humanity without punching people in the face. When was the last time anyone in the League tried something like this?"
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- Oblivion
I have the strangest feeling that showing off the soulless abominations he keeps locked in cages in his basement to experiment on. Is going to have the exact opposite effect Grayven was hoping for here...
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Batman's company WayneCorp/Tech advances the interests of humanity... the results of which he then uses to punch people in the face.
Hecatonchires
Just an H-class cyborg with an octopus brain stem
- Location
- The Gong, NSW, Australia
Even their technically inclined members seem to just invent more sophisticated face-punching tools
- Location
- texas
I don't remember vampires in the DC franchise being capable of sexual reproduction, was some demon trying to win their high school science fair?
Dakkan Sall
Random Encounter
- Location
- On the world map
So... feeding his former allies info on the new addition to the Light in casual conversation, stopping the construction of non-defensive space-based weapons, and taking care of special-needs orphans.
Grayven has been... as always... busy.
Grayven has been... as always... busy.
daimahou
Hear... Feel... Think...
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- 「 」
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- Hampden Park
In Hellblazer it wasn't explained, so I'm going to say 'probably'.
Thank you, corrected.
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The Chosen One
Yes, THAT One.
- Location
- The Pedant Gallery
Oh, you mean the decoy dressed in bright colors that Batman brings with him to gang fights?
I'm not saying Batman considers Robin 'replacable,' per se, but he does straight-up replace him every few years.
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- Oblivion
Well it was with a Succubus, so I am not sure that counts as an empirical test either given the peculiarities of the particular species in question. :lol
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The Chosen One
Yes, THAT One.
- Location
- The Pedant Gallery
'swhat makes it Mad Science, innit?
- Location
- texas
That presumes that the succubus was important to the experiment.
Perhaps someone was researching demonic viagra.
"Deagra- So potent it makes the dead rise! For the low low cost of your immortal soul, but what are you actually using it for anyway?
Side effects can include lycanthropy, vampirism, cranial explosions, and alien abductions."
Killing a demon normally just sends them back to Hell, right? So presumably she's in Hell, grumping about being eaten by her kids.
Succubus #1: "Back so soon from the mortal plane? What happened?"
Succubus #2: "Uhhgh. Had kids with a vampire, got eaten by them."
Succubus #1: "With a vampire? What did you think was going to happen? I mean he eats people, you eat people, you're a people."
Succubus #2: "But we had such compatible personalities!"
Succubus #1: "Honey, you're a demon. Compatible personalities are not how a succubus has a healthy relationship. You need to go find some nice, virtuous young man and settle down with him. Then corrupt him into a twisted mockery of a man. That's what a healthy relationship is like!"
Succubus #1: "Back so soon from the mortal plane? What happened?"
Succubus #2: "Uhhgh. Had kids with a vampire, got eaten by them."
Succubus #1: "With a vampire? What did you think was going to happen? I mean he eats people, you eat people, you're a people."
Succubus #2: "But we had such compatible personalities!"
Succubus #1: "Honey, you're a demon. Compatible personalities are not how a succubus has a healthy relationship. You need to go find some nice, virtuous young man and settle down with him. Then corrupt him into a twisted mockery of a man. That's what a healthy relationship is like!"
It's stuff like this that puts me off dating. Dear lord the nightmares this'll give me
- Location
- San Francisco Bay Area, California, USA
clothes
This actually made me chortle.
A rather unfair question, science experiments on semi-eldritch abominations is neither the objective nor the specialisation of the League or any of its members.
Now Star Labs! Those unproductive, superstitious idiots could do with an object lesson like this.
Magic exists. You must do Science! to it.
Not really sure what Grayven is trying to achieve here. He isn't going to persuade either of them with this and it seems an awful lot of effort just to troll them.
He misses his
Well, it seems to me there's a rather obvious solution to your problem; just become a vampire.
- Location
- australia
... its stuff like this that makes my Wonder why People Say OL's less Human Mentally.
im pretty sure HE'd realise all the countless ways this could be misinterpreted as a hideously immoral weapons program being tested on children...
im pretty sure HE'd realise all the countless ways this could be misinterpreted as a hideously immoral weapons program being tested on children...
- Location
- Hampden Park
Thank you, corrected.
He's trying to persuade Zatanna to make him a mana syphon. More detail tomorrow.
- Location
- The Outer Plane Of Munchkinry.
but on the other hand this will give him respawning units when he manages to take over hell.
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