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Honestly the idea that the Meta Gene was caused by the God Wave misses an important point.

Humanity literally evolved on top of the White Entity.

Given what happened to the Guardians with long term exposure to just the Will Entity I am much more likely to blame that for the Meta Gene then I am the God Wave.
 
Zigzag (part 3)
3rd May
09:03 GMT -5


I point to the star chart being projected into the middle of the training area, my spirits falling further. "And here?"

Canis shrugs. "Perhaps? I was a cavalry commander, not a ship captain." Canis has a great deal of experience with alien civilisations. Unfortunately, most of it involves boom tubing in with a few hundred friends and looting the place. "The region here-" He reaches into the hologram with his right forefinger and indicates a radius. "-is known as The Waste. Any settlement here was taken as an affront to Great Darkseid and destroyed, the foolish people attempting it either slain or taken back to Apokolips in chains. Further out, we raided and brought ruination, but never in so focused a manner."

"What was the point?"

He frowns at me. He's not confused by what I've asked so much as by the fact that I'm asking. "To keep them afraid, of course. To remind them that every day they are given leave to draw breath by Great Darkseid, and should his merciless gaze fall upon them his gift would instantly be rescinded."

"Does he order each attack personally? "

Canis smiles, shaking his head. "No. Such matters are beneath his notice. At some point long before my birth he ordained that things should be so. And we faithfully carried out his commandment ever since."

"Faithfully?"

"We cry out his name, shout his praise and -time allowing- erect monuments to his fearsome magnificence."

I nod. From the comics it was never very clear what the peoples of Apokolips did from day to day. I'm getting a better idea now. "Now, the events which led to you being banished…"

"What is to say that you do not already know? I achieved a moment of perfect self-realisation, of communion with the greater spirit of Darkseid. I took my god-name, cut down my father and replaced him as general. My new status demanded greater targets so I ordered a raid on New Genesis itself."

"Did you have that authority?"

"We do not need special permission to fight and die for Darkseid. And I met with success! Their people cut down, their army routed, two of their sky cities left as burned out ruins!"

"And yet, you're here."

He shrugs. "Kanto has taken some exception to my ascension, and he is an assassin without peer. I cannot guard myself in my sleep. But I still do Darkseid's work, harrowing the weak and unworthy."



"Okay, so why don't we try tracking the world you visited after you were forced to-"

"Recognised, Kid Flash, B zero three."

"-quit your position."

Brut stirs himself as Wallace materialises in the tube's terminus. I imagine that when compared with the fast paced and highly dangerous life Brut and his master lived on Apokolips his time on Earth must be restful at best. He hasn't quite gotten to the point where he'll let the rest of us stroke him, but at least he doesn't bark or urinate at inappropriate times or places. Wallace doesn't warrant more than a quick sniff before Brut's head is once more resting on his forepaws.

"Good morning, Wallace." Oh dear. His posture is slouched and his face fallen. "What's wrong?"

"Anatole Sokolov's dead."

Ah. I nod. "I'm sorry to hear that. I didn't know the two of you were close."

He trudges in our direction, looking over the star chart briefly and then dismissing it. "We weren't. I met him a couple of times when he was visiting Jay, but that was about it."

Canis frowns, this time in frustration. "Who is this person?"

Wallace looks at the ground for a moment. "Anatole was a Russian guy. A speedster like me. Ah, well, more like.. Jay, really."

"I don't know who he is either."

Wallace looks at me and gestures at the hologram with his right hand. "Mind if I..?"

I shake my head. "All yours."

He dismisses the star chart and calls up Jay's personnel file. "Jay Garrick, the first Flash." We get a picture of him in his prime. "Born, nineteen eighteen, started out as the Flash in nineteen forty. Far as we could tell, some time in the fifties the Russians got a hold of a copy of the formula he used to get super speed. Only… They didn't get a perfect copy. The first three Russian speedsters he met were Blue Trinity-" A picture appears showing Blue Trinity's members; Boleslaw Uminski, Gregor Gregorovich and Christina Molotova. "-and they ended up with crippling health problems as well as being mentally unstable. Anatole was part of the second group." Another picture, Anatole in costume with his Red Trinity team mates Bebeck and Cassiopeia. "They did better, but when they started showing the same symptoms as the Blue Trinity members they came to Keystone City to see if Jay could help them."

"And swore themselves into his service in return?"

"What?" Wallace frowns at Canis. "No. He just tried to help them. And it… Kinda worked." He presses another button, calling up a more recent image. "Until it didn't."

They look withered, and I know from when I read their files that their legs from the knee down are artificial. To say nothing of the constant tremors and headaches.

"I didn't know about any of this when I tried copying Jay's formula, but there's a reason -or rather, six reasons- why there hasn't been more interest in it. Get it wrong -like I did- and if needing a calorie rich diet is the worst that happens to you then you got off lucky." He steps back. "And the symptoms are progressive."

!!!

"You're not showing any-?"

"No, no." He shakes his head. "It just really brought it home, you know? Between that and Velocity Nine there's more examples of super speed gone wrong than gone right. My healing potion helped him, but it didn't make the symptoms vanish."

"Okay. Do you know what went wrong with the version of the formula the Russians used on him?"

"Yeah, for some reason? They weren't all that keen on talking to Jay about it."

"But would they be willing to now?" His face stills. "I mean, I could understand them… The super soldier producing part of the military, at least… Not being willing to help a defector. But if he's dead and the s-. Partner of the current Flash puts in an official request for information…"

He frowns thoughtfully. "You think?"

"They want one of theirs on the Justice League and this could win them points. They know that Jay isn't sharing with the US military." I shrug. "They might go for it. Might not, but it won't hurt to ask."

Wallace nods. "That's a great idea. I'll call Uncle Barry-."

"What happened to the blue ones?" Canis jerks his chin at their hologram. "Were they slain in battle?"

Wallace shrugs. "We don't really know. I mean, given how severe their symptoms were they'd probably be dead by now, but the last we heard of them was when they got shipped back to Russia after failing to stop Red Trinity coming over to our side."

"Then they're the first thing we ask about."
 
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"What happened to the blue ones?" Canis jerks his chin at their hologram. "Were they slain in battle?"

Wallace shrugs. "We don't really know. I mean, given how severe their symptoms were they're probably be dead by now, but the last we heard of them was when they got shipped back to Russia after failing to stop Red Trinity coming over to our side."

"Then they're the first thing we ask about."
Near certain the Russians are still working on the superspeed thing after all this time since they have lots of projects going on.
 
One thing to remember is that, unlike USA, USSR has mandatory inoculation programs, and was prone to social experiments. It would not surprise me a lot if, given a stable and perfectly working Garrick or Donner formula that is mass-producible, Russia / USSR starts a country-wide implementation of such. For purely pragmatic reasons even.

On the other hand, I am often told that I don't understand normal Russians.
 
One thing to remember is that, unlike USA, USSR has mandatory inoculation programs, and was prone to social experiments. It would not surprise me a lot if, given a stable and perfectly working Garrick or Donner formula that is mass-producible, Russia / USSR starts a country-wide implementation of such. For purely pragmatic reasons even.

On the other hand, I am often told that I don't understand normal Russians.

I would argue that long term that's not a good idea. Not for moral reason, but because long term you can do better then Donner at least. High end flash is pretty damn high end, but even there, there seems to be variation on outcome. Not all speedsters are born equal.

And activating the Human Meta Gene into a particular expression seems to stop it from adopting a different one. Your flashes will always only be flashes, unless you get the Ascension technique Renegade!Paul picked up.
 
@Mr Zoat

it seems like Renegade verse Batman trusts Grayven much more then the Paragon verse Batman trusts "Paulvos" if it is not a spoiler what is the point of divergence.
 
I would argue that long term that's not a good idea. Not for moral reason, but because long term you can do better then Donner at least. High end flash is pretty damn high end, but even there, there seems to be variation on outcome. Not all speedsters are born equal.

And activating the Human Meta Gene into a particular expression seems to stop it from adopting a different one. Your flashes will always only be flashes, unless you get the Ascension technique Renegade!Paul picked up.
True, a variation of metagene-active humans provides more breadth of abilities for the state. On the other hand, there's a lot to be said for standardization. And, well, flash!bureaucrats are a personal dream of mine. Because Russia is a deeply bureaucratic country (I have this 34 step instruction on how to buy something with my institution's money for my work. It takes about 15 signatures and at least two weeks of legwork to authorize money spending).

Also, flash!Scientists and poets and such.
 
Honestly the idea that the Meta Gene was caused by the God Wave misses an important point.

Considering that the Godwave affected green lanterns, meaning the emotional spectrum of the lanterns is also caused by the Godwave (if one uses that, like I said, it's up there with the sequels of Highlander and the Matrix when it comes to being universally loved), your theory just makes extra layers, even if your theory is true it still leads to the Godwave being responsible for superpowers.

Humanity literally evolved on top of the White Entity.

Given what happened to the Guardians with long term exposure to just the Will Entity I am much more likely to blame that for the Meta Gene then I am the God Wave.

Incorrect. First of all, Krona kept all the emotional entities as pets for who knows how long.

Then both Parallax and Ion were in the green lantern central battery.

And what exactly do you think the presence of emotional entities did to the Guardians? The Zamarons manipulate the violet energy of love just as well as the Oans manipulate the glow of willpower, and they didn't get their hands on the Predator until after it possessed Carol Ferris.

Likewise, the mental powers of the Guardians don't seem any stronger than the mental powers of the Controllers, who have no access to the emotional spectrum at all.
 
@Mr Zoat

it seems like Renegade verse Batman trusts Grayven much more then the Paragon verse Batman trusts "Paulvos" if it is not a spoiler what is the point of divergence.
I don't think it's a matter of trust. It's that Batman is perfectly well aware that OL has convictions & goals that don't match his, and he's independent minded enough to act on them. I'm sure he trusts OL to do what OL thinks is right; which may well not be what Batman thinks is right.

Renegade Batman clearly thinks Grayven is useful, but I don't know how much he trusts him.
 
ah the 'speed of love' quest.

If your playing a female ring user this is when Wally becomes romanacible.
It's actually possible to romance Kid Flash as a male ring user, but it involves sacrificing yourself in Artemis's place during the Failsafe simulation mission. It causes a bug in the system, since that is the moment which is supposed to activate the romance script between Wally and Artemis. Though frankly, considering the gains you can get by playing the Failsafe mission all the way through, it's only worth it if the goal of your play-through is to romance the speedster.

In fact, you can use that little exploit to get him to date whoever you want, as long as they are with you during the simulation. One of my favorite play-throughs was the one where I discovered the trick. My actions made it so Robin ended up being the one caught in the beam. And since I was dating Artemis in that play-through, he couldn't romance her and fix the discrepancy. I finished the April Fools quest line, turned around, and noticed they were making out.

Though the funniest one was the one where I used the Gotham By Knight exploit to get Batman to join the team, and hooked the two of them up. Ended up breaking the game though. It ends with Flash killing Batman, which breaks off so many scripts and paths right there, the game can't handle it and dumps you back at game start.
 
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It's actually possible to romance Kid Flash as a male ring user, but it involves sacrificing yourself in Artemis's place during the Failsafe simulation mission. It causes a bug in the system, since that is the moment which is supposed to activate the romance script between Wally and Artemis. Though frankly, considering the gains you can get by playing the Failsafe mission all the way through, it's only worth it if the goal of your play-through is to romance the speedster.

In fact, you can use that little exploit to get him to date whoever you want, as long as they are with you during the simulation. One of my favorite play-throughs was when I discovered the trick. My actions made it so Robin ended up being the one caught in the beam. And since I was dating Artemis in that play-through, he couldn't romance her and fix the discrepency. I got to the April Fools quest line, turned around, and noticed they were making out.

Though the funniest one was the one where I used the Gotham By Knight exploit to get Batman to join the team, and hooked the two of them up. Ended up breaking the game though. It ends with Flash killing Batman, which breaks off so many scripts and paths right there, the game can't handle it and dumps you back at game start.

There are a lot of bugs like that.

Like the karokee bug, where you try to get batman to sing. if you try to get him to sing the sailor moon theme song it crashes the game. I had no problem getting robin to sing it though.
 
Widespread use of Danger formula would have many benefits to a society. Just think of the savings on health care costs! And there would be massive productivity gains in the construction field too.

While you can do better than Danner formula, I'd think the first country to have an army of enhanciles would have a sufficient advantage to conquer everyone else.
 
The Ambulance wouldn't have taken a crash victim to a hospital without one.
It's kind of one of those necessary things you need in order to make sure the injured person isn't bleeding into their brain.
This isn't true.
CT scans work just fine for detecting intracranial bleeds.
Faster too, since you don't need to starve the patient for four to six hours prior to the scan, and you can do it right there in the ER in many hospitals.
 
There are a lot of bugs like that.

Like the karokee bug, where you try to get batman to sing. if you try to get him to sing the sailor moon theme song it crashes the game. I had no problem getting robin to sing it though.

I don't think it's that's a bug, I think it's an ester egg. There are things you just don't do - you don't make Joker cheat the IRS, you don't make Batman sing cutisy songs, you don't make Mandy smile.

 
Blockbuster doesn't grant superpowers. It lands in the gap between "human maximum" and "low-grade super strength". It doesn't require empowering your inner essence.

The fact that Superboy couldn't defeat Blockbuster by himself in "Usual Suspects" says otherwise, as does the fact that Lex Luther expected Blockbuster to beat Superboy down and kidnap him with his bare hands.

Or do you think that Lex of all people doesn't know the difference between human and Kryptonian strength levels?

And activating the Human Meta Gene into a particular expression seems to stop it from adopting a different one. Your flashes will always only be flashes, unless you get the Ascension technique Renegade!Paul picked up.

Not really.

First of all, the metagene is hardly necessary for enhancement, and having superpowers doesn't seem like much of a barrier to gaining additional powers, for example-

Wildstar of LEGION. One of the descendants of the Anasazi Amerindians who were given psychic tracking powers and wings by an unknown alien race and then dumped on Starhaven to live their own lives, Dox turned her into an anti-energy being ala Wildfire. So she became an anti-energy being with all the powers of Wildfire plus kept her starhavenite psychic tracking skills.

So either the Starhavenites have an activated metagene that nevertheless allows further empowerment, or their superpowers have nothing to do with the metagene in the first place.

Also of LEGION, there's Phase. She's had three origins. Phantom Girl transported to the present thanks to time travel shenanigans, then she was Phantom Girl's cousin, then she became Phantom Girl's bio-duplicate.

They made Phantom Girl partially Carggite (Triplicate Girl's people who can split into three bodies), so she had the power of both intangibility and splitting into three. At least until her father sold off her two duplicates as slaves.

Carggites were revealed to be one of the peoples whose origin is in the metagene bomb who colonized another planet thanks to Mon-El. So metagene and intangibility, whose origin I don't recall, so either another metagene ability, or another case of non metagene superpowers.
 
There are a lot of bugs like that.

Like the karokee bug, where you try to get batman to sing. if you try to get him to sing the sailor moon theme song it crashes the game. I had no problem getting robin to sing it though.
I think we can all be thankful for that particular bug. Though to be honest, the entire karaoke feature is riddled with problems. I once tried to get Kaldur to sing a duet with me, and I ended up leaping straight back two missions. Without changing my load out. I was prepared to sing, not battle giant killer cockroaches.

Thankfully, the actual base game is pretty stable. It's just the more side-quest, mini-game add ons that are so problematic. They were a late addition to the game, and it shows. Like that seasonal quest chain where you need to help put up christmas decorations throughout Happy Harbor. Half the time the damn decorations stay up for the rest of the game, the other half the decorations start trying to attack people, and your fetch quest becomes a running battle.

Though admittedly, that can be pretty fun.

I don't think it's that's a bug, I think it's an ester egg. There are things you just don't do - you don't make Joker cheat the IRS, you don't make Batman sing cutisy songs, you don't make Mandy smile.
Nah, the karaoke easter egg shows up when you have a high relationship score with Aquaman.

 
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I think we can all be thankful for that particular bug. Though to be honest, the entire karaoke feature is riddled with problems. I once tried to get Kaldur to sing a duet with me, and I ended up leaping straight back two missions. Without changing my load out. I was prepared to sing, not battle giant killer cockroaches.

Thankfully, the actual base game is pretty stable. It's just the more side-quest, mini-game add ons that are so problematic. They were a late addition to the game, and it shows. Like that seasonal quest chain where you need to help put up christmas decorations throughout Happy Harbor. Half the time the damn decorations stay up for the rest of the game, the other half the decorations start trying to attack people, and your fetch quest becomes a running battle.

Though admittedly, that can be pretty fun.


Nah, the karaoke easter egg shows up when you have a high relationship score with Aquaman.



*adds another to the aquaman song chart*
 
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