If she is sufficiently powerful that might not be feasible due to rapidly shifting magnetic fields working as an induction furnace. Which could be quite unhealthy if the needle is embedded in flesh.
With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)
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I completely disagree. Paul's motivations and thought processes are too weird to hate.
It's easy to dislike Grayven because of his relatablility. I can no more hate Paul than I could a starfish.
TheLastOne
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He's not THAT weird. He's a step removed, sure, but that just tends to make his reactions more considered, and the longer term it is the closer his reaction become to normal. He has a few oddities where he tends to think of things purely in terms of practicality, but it's not that odd.
People just want him to lose his shit and lay the smack down more, even when it's obviously a dumb idea even Grayven wouldn't go for. Grayven tries to avoid fights he might lose.
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So basically, people want Paragon to be more Renegade and Renegade to be more Paragon? If that's not a mixed message, I don't know what is.
TheLastOne
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So basically, people want Paragon to be more Renegade and Renegade to be more Paragon? If that's not a mixed message, I don't know what is.
People want to vicariously live power fantasies. Characters being reasonable gets in the way of that, because reasonable people understand consequence.
I'm not saying I find him completely incomprehensible, I just find him too weird to hate.
His choices don't instantly grok, so it requires more consideration, thus bypassing an immediate emotional response on my part.
When Grayven does something, I can usually empathize, so there's typically an emotional component to my reaction. Paul's choices don't usually have those, for me.
Edit: to summarize, I find Paul intellectually interesting while I find Grayven more likely to elicit an emotional response, good or bad.
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The Ambulance wouldn't have taken a crash victim to a hospital without one.
It's kind of one of those necessary things you need in order to make sure the injured person isn't bleeding into their brain.
zhuull
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Aha!
We've got a Star Conquer sympathizer in the thread!
Also:
Lies!
We've got photographic proof or have you already forgotten the wedding pictures of Paul's lovely dress? Are you just trying to make poor Ophidian cry?
Just as planned.
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God dammit, see what happens when you say positive things about Grayven people? Guess Vaermina had it right all along with the unwavering Grayven hate.
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Nah, Zoat woulda done it either way. He just considers it amusing to let us think we have any control over what he's going to write. He can feed on the pleased reviews of the vindicated just as easily as he can feed on the angry tears of the disappointed.
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Eh more Grayven is good since I kind of hate Paul since the Queen of fairy tales incident.
That was around the time you kept saying Zoat needed to take a break from the story, right?
Ulterior motive comes to light!
Empiricist2
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Then... Why are you still reading? He's the main character, and the self insert. He's not going away. Why continue to be negative in the thread of a story you largely dislike?
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There's a difference between hating a character and hating a story. For example, Quinn Dexter in the Night's Dawn trilogy is utterly loathsome, committing mass murder, torture and rape and bringing as many possessed into the world as he can manage. He still manages to be fascinating. I hate Scarlett O'Hara from Gone With The Wind, but I still read the thing.
TheLastOne
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Quinn was... so so. I found him, and the Satanist sub-plot... sort of weak. Honestly Night's Dawn was kinda uneven on the whole.
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I hated the deus ex resolution, the way it made so much of what else happened irrelevant. But the point is, you don't need to like a main character to like a story. It's like what Jim Sterling says about playing as villains.
TheLastOne
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I'll agree with that, to head off the whole Night's Dawn argument. For one thing, I would have to re-familiarize myself with it.
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They're called "Paragade" and "Renegon" respectively, they're things.So basically, people want Paragon to be more Renegade and Renegade to be more Paragon? If that's not a mixed message, I don't know what is.
Paragade:
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In the controversial Genesis event, the godwave messed with pretty much everyone's powers barring Shade (his powers logically would come from the Greater Darkness, not the godwave), and the godwave was specifically cited as the source of both gods and metahumans.
Presuming Zoat uses that, which he might not, since, as I said, it's a controversial storyline that some people wish away along with certain movie sequels in franchises that rhyme with smatrix and vighlander, then the energy of the Source is the source of the vast majority of superpowers in DC.
Probably. The animals that the Team fought included animals that were both dannered and blockbustered, and dannering Adam obviously didn't interfere with his divine powers.
If dannering doesn't interfere with magical or chemical based superpowers, I don't see why it would interfere with genetic based powers, especially since the dannering process isn't genetic.
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Blockbuster doesn't grant superpowers. It lands in the gap between "human maximum" and "low-grade super strength". It doesn't require empowering your inner essence.
Being endowed with powers by a patron doesn't really count as YOU having those powers. Adom's soul still had the "enhancement" slot open. It should ESPECIALLY be noted that the Danner effect was fairly negligible in his empowered form, supplementing the idea that they're not really stacking.
Genetic-based powers, by contrast, ARE written into one's core identity. The "enhancement" slot is in use, at least once the metagene triggers.
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And all this assumes that the meta-gene is the cause, and not just a side effect of 5th world shenanigans being manifested.
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