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The third world would be hella interesting and questionable. Since a first world nation is going to have control over the stuff, who's going to get it? The Warlords they don't like, or people in rebellion?
Fuck, what would the social fallout be? We're already in trouble from the Boomers hanging around so long. Social movement towards the left would be slowed.
On the otherhand, if we keep Neotenic longer that might not happen as much as it could.
Two questions:
=(1) Does Magnificus feel conflicted about the possibility of no longer being unique?
To quote Syndrome: "If everyone is special, then nobody is."
=(2) Biology question: If an unborn child has a latent meta-gene or magical potential, would exposure to the Danner formula in the womb suppress, override, or destroy that meta-gene?
Earth's greatest asset is its "metahuman diversity", requiring an enemy to have dozens of strategies and tactics to properly combat individuals with such a wide array of powers. If wide spread use of the Danner formula reduces "the metahuman diversity", then in the long-run it might weaken Earth rather than strengthen it.
In Marvel's X-Force and the TV show "Alphas", there were story arcs where terrorists attacked genetic screening clinics because it'd decrease the likelihood of new mutants/alphas being born.
Link: The X-Men Episode Guide 2x07: Time Fugitives, Part One
Could be entertaining if the speedster Impulse insisted on giving the Danner formula to as many people as possible in preparation for the Reach invasion, only for someone from further into the future (like the Legion of Super-Heroes) to show up and say doing so will do more harm than good. Something similar happened in the X-Men animated series where Bishop tries to stop Apocalypse from unleashing a plague, only for Cable to try to stop Bishop because without antibodies to stabilize the mutant genome, uncontrolled mutations would kill off even more people than the plague.
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No, it will cause a massive change, even in the first world.
First off, there's not going to be 100% adoption. Unless they figure out how Danner adults or recruit OL to personally Danner 300 million people (and that's just the US!), then it will only be babies. Which is not good. Let's fast-forward 18 years. A significant portion of everyone 18 and under is now Danner'd. Everyone one of them has super strength and durability, and a 300-year long lifespan. Every baby is strong enough to accidentally bite off their mom's nipple while breastfeeding. Every toddler is strong enough to seriously wound their parent during a tantrum. Every child is strong enough to just run away and have a serious chance of succeeding on their own. Every teenager is strong enough to accidentally kill the cop that tries to arrest them for underage drinking. And what about school? Are American high schoolers going to graduate at age 54 instead of 18? Are they going to retire at age 120? 200? 275?
OK, instead, let's assume Paulphidan Danners everyone willing. Well, that's still not everyone, because what about religious people who belive it goes against their beliefs? Conspiracy nuts? Prisoners? That's a group of people who are genuinely, 100% disadvantaged. (Imagine the discrimination.)
OK, let's assume Lex is a really good public speaker and manages to convince literally everybody to be Danner'd, and Paulphidan does so. Well, we still need to rebuild nearly everything, because it'll be a while before people know their own strength. Or OL needs to make 7 billion inhibitor collars, like the ones he gave Artemis and Dick, while people get used to their knew powers. What about the elderly? Does someone who's 90 years old get 30 more years of life or 210? If it's the former, you'll probably get a lot of people who are angry about almost getting a new lease on life, then losing it. Maybe they commit crimes, maybe they go out with a bang, who knows. If it's the latter, well now you have a shitton of new workers, because that retirement money ain't gonna last 2 centuries.
So yeah, fuckton of societal change.
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g's, or maybe G's; it's unclear which is more correct, but the apostrophe definitely needs to be there.
This and other comments have overlooked the possibility that the gravity source is not itself oriented at 90 degrees. If it's not a planar source (I mean, I would assume most sci-fi artificial gravity IS because that's just CONVENIENT, but spherical boundaries are more REALISTIC) then all it would require is for the gravity generator to be around eight feet off the ground for the net force to feel perpendicular to a wall.
I'm trying to figure out what language that's supposed to evoke. It vaguely sounds Slavic. ("Boldog" for example is "happy" in Hungarian.)
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Or "Bódog", an old Hungarian name -- the old form of "boldog" -- which means "rich".
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Why would it change? The amount of time spent at school is due to how fast people learn, not their lifespan.
Shrugs, there's already groups that make those kind of choices and we let them be, it's their problem.
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Thank you! That helps settle down my compulsion to figure it out. Searching Google for "bodog" just came up with gambling stuff and Mongolian barbecue. It makes sense that a casino would name itself "rich."Or "Bódog", an old Hungarian name -- the old form of "boldog" -- which means "rich".
Off the top of my head, it'd be worried about food consumption as people with metabolism-based powers need lots of calories, protein, carbs, and what-not to sustain their bodies.
Increasing someone's food intake by 10-25% doesn't sound like much but when multiplied by thousands or even tens of thousands it'd have massive global ramifications.
In real life, Earth previously had enough food to feed everyone but didn't due to distribution problems and economics. However, in the last few years*, global population has reached the point where there isn't enough food to feed everyone even if distribution and economic barriers where removed. The United States is exporting less and less food, which contributes to the trade deficient, and some experts says that first-world nations will start seeing minor food shortages within a decade.
*Yes, I understand this is a gross oversimplification and there are dozens of other factors involve, but I don't feel like writing a thesis paper on the subject.
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also, ASSUMING we manage to keep everyone fed, how likely are the Draconian long-term population growth Control/restriction measures required to keep earth viable for human habitation in the long term to actually be IMPLEMENTED, considering that there is an excellent change of the annual non-homicide death rate plummeting even if there isn't a MASSIVE change in average/base human lifespan.
there's an excellent chance of being forced into exoplanetary colonisation in order to cope even if jsut as a population pressure "release valve" of forced or voluntary emigration(which in itself is WAY past due given how U-16 has FAR to many potential causes for a Planetary Extinction even to justify keeping our eggs in a single basket a PISCOSECOND longer then absolutely necessary), and if so how far will Terra's children keep expanding? how desperate or ruthless might they become in search of Planets either outright in the Goldilocks zone or resource rich/ "easy enough" to terraform?
the social changes would be EXTREMELY hard to predict reliably given the sheer number of people/variables involved with anything LESS then a all-seeing crystal ball in the hands of someone with borderline omnicognesscence.
things could end up all sunshine and rainbows. EVERYONE could end up dieing in an Apocalyptic war. someone could win a land war in Asia or even, god forbid, the Australian wildlife could Escape containment and reach the soft,unprepared american and European landmasses, thus leaving us with nothing to keep us from dieing from boredom
seriously. i suffer (at times LITERALLY )crippling Thanatophobia Irl, and i STILL find the prospect of the entire population ( or even worse by a factor of 10, a select subset) suddenly becoming either immortal, or close enough to work towards it frikking TERRIFYING.
if Lord Kelvin was still alive, im pretty sure he'd STILL be Telling us that pretty much every new discovery mentioned to him was impossible, so add the possibility for the Chaos to eventually ironically lead to utter cultural/political or even technological stasis..........
there's an excellent chance of being forced into exoplanetary colonisation in order to cope even if jsut as a population pressure "release valve" of forced or voluntary emigration(which in itself is WAY past due given how U-16 has FAR to many potential causes for a Planetary Extinction even to justify keeping our eggs in a single basket a PISCOSECOND longer then absolutely necessary), and if so how far will Terra's children keep expanding? how desperate or ruthless might they become in search of Planets either outright in the Goldilocks zone or resource rich/ "easy enough" to terraform?
the social changes would be EXTREMELY hard to predict reliably given the sheer number of people/variables involved with anything LESS then a all-seeing crystal ball in the hands of someone with borderline omnicognesscence.
things could end up all sunshine and rainbows. EVERYONE could end up dieing in an Apocalyptic war. someone could win a land war in Asia or even, god forbid, the Australian wildlife could Escape containment and reach the soft,unprepared american and European landmasses, thus leaving us with nothing to keep us from dieing from boredom
seriously. i suffer (at times LITERALLY )crippling Thanatophobia Irl, and i STILL find the prospect of the entire population ( or even worse by a factor of 10, a select subset) suddenly becoming either immortal, or close enough to work towards it frikking TERRIFYING.
if Lord Kelvin was still alive, im pretty sure he'd STILL be Telling us that pretty much every new discovery mentioned to him was impossible, so add the possibility for the Chaos to eventually ironically lead to utter cultural/political or even technological stasis..........
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The SI doesn't know for certain, but he doesn't have a problem working with Dr Munro and his irritation at Kon stems from Kon's greater skill, not his equal strength.
No one knows. Metahuman births are sufficiently unusual that it is very hard to test.
Ugh, are you sure? It isn't an abbreviation or a possessive.
Hah! Thaddeus 'Happy' Sivana.
Does Danner-based durability and healing help counteract bone degeneration from being in low-gravity? Being able to resist extreme g-forces and bone degeneration would be a huge boon to extraplanetary colonization until humanity develops inertia dampeners and artificial gravity.
Also, durability and rapid healing could mean that it'd be "safer" for Danner enhanciles to undergo cryogenic suspended animation, which would simplify non-FTL space travel.
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Even if having a large number of Danner enhanciles didn't cause food shortages, people having less disposable income due to larger food budgets would have a trickle effect on the economy: fewer frivolous purchases, less tourism, and other fiscally conservative behavior.
Not to mention the fact that super-strong children often do a lot of damage before they manage to learn control, as if having children wasn't expensive enough as it is. Just think of the apartment security deposits they'll have to pay!
And then there'd be insurance problems, either due to them being more likely to seriously harm regular people or the fact that being super-durable means agencies don't have to give them as much money if they got into an accident.
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Yeah, that's sort of been my worry for a while now. The Danner formula is very reliable, but what it produces isn't actually that scary in an absolute sense. Speedsters are more flexible and powerful by far, and even they have sets of easily exploited weaknesses.
Well if you were the real mr zoat you would know that he spells stuff like that as it is pronounced.
In this particular case that means that he would write "Gees" or something like it
Yes, if one wishes to change society then garrick is the one to really shake things up. Besides it can probably even be applied on living humans making the change take years rather than decades (or given that it bestows super speed hours rather than decades)
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pretty much.
Higher then baseline AVERAGES, assuredly, but exceeded by both Scattered individuals, and some entire groups/demographics, and that's just on earth...
if there was ANY way to ensure it wouldn't interfere with future enhancements/boosts, it'd make a pretty decent "standard" package, especially if the ability to administer it to an adult/mature Patient without a Ring is possible, even with a literal building-filling setup/ months to years in intensive care....
but that'd likely be years or DECADES away without a paradigm/situational shift, even with Paul continuing to add research by any practical means
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How fast can Paul get his snake?
Also, don't interact with the experiments without the right supervision.
Also, don't interact with the experiments without the right supervision.
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Length of hand to trouser divided by speed of hand.
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Dude we literally waste food everyday. We have food enough to feed the double of the world population and we waste or trown away a lot of it.
So food shortage should not be worse than already is.
So food shortage should not be worse than already is.
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It is an abbreviation, for "gravities".
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Weakass universe.
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I'm not 100% certain this is true anymore. The planet's population grew by almost a billion people in the last ten years alone. There may be enough CALORIES in the world to go around, but if we're talking about proper balanced nutrition... we may not actually have enough sources of essential nutrients to take care of 7.4 billion people to first-world standards. The waste product would be useful to THIRD-world standards, sure, but the whole point is to NOT feed table scraps to starving African kids as if they were housepets.
We COULD, if we tried, reallocate our agricultural resources. Cut meat production to 1/3, cut cattle feedstock production equivalently, reallocate the newly-available arable land to human-useful crops, and (as before) take care of the distribution problem, and we could sustain the population -- if we can deal with the population GROWTH issue. (Knock-on benefit: Reducing meat production will also dramatically slash one of the largest anthropogenic sources of greenhouse gas.)
EDIT: Of course, there's actually a perverse side effect in play here... If you GIVE food to starving people, then they have better chances of surviving and higher probabilities of reproducing... which increases the population... which makes it harder to feed them all. It ties into the whole "give a man a fish" problem.
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I'm pretty sure if one of those wacky geniuses were paid for it they could create an efficient plant, 3D print meat etc etc..
I'm pretty sure someone like Sivana would do it because he didn't want to have to go to the store.
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