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The strength of New Genesis is approximately equal, though due to the differences in their divine nature they don't need to build torture chambers into everything to make it work properly.

So New God tech is emotion powered in some ways like power rings tap into the Emotional Spectrum? Is that how Darkseld's forces were able to come up with the yellow feartech counter to the GL when they had the war with the GLC? Is that ability what separates the god tiers like the Maltusians and New Gods from merely powerful mundane groups like the Reach? Tapping into raw fundamental forces of the Earth-16 universe as opposed to just like fusion weapons or even Bleedtech power plants or something?
 
"I ask because I picked this-" I take a cold gun out of subspace. "-up in Central City yesterday." I hold it up. "It's called a 'Cold Gun'. It works by arresting molecular vibration in the target area. The beam moves at light speed and at maximum intensity stops molecular vibration completely. By my estimation a strike anywhere on an airborne F Thirty Five would kill it. It was designed by a Human with no higher education.. while he was in prison." I return it to subspace before taking out a purple death ray. "The forerunner of this gun was built in the nineteen forties. It nullifies life. A normal Human can only take the beam for a second or two before their body completely ceases functioning. Again, a light speed weapon." I make eye contact with each committee member in turn. "Ladies and Gentlemen, I use these guns. They are superior to their nearest Apokoliptian equivalents. Why aren't you using them?"

"As for the rest?" I put the death ray back into subspace. "The superhero Red Tornado was built in the nineteen thirties and hasn't been recharged once since. In the forties the first Starman built a device that could generate decent force fields, and it was the size of a signal baton. That contained its own power source as well. All Earth technology."

Jack Knight hanging up on me nearly made me regret my break with the League.

"And while it's true that the jet engine comes from the same era, there's really no comparison in terms of effectiveness. Why do you insist on using these substandard technologies when you have better ones available?"
Because comic superscience is fundamentally nonsensical and is so utterly beyond the means of the tools, sciences, resources, and infrastructure of the time in which it is built that comics just try to gloss over the gaping discrepancies as much and as quickly as possible.

Like the guy who built a superpowered robot that hasn't run out of power in over half a century--despite not even being solar powered--in the forties, a time in which the most wealthy, productive, and advanced nation on the planet was massively investing money, resources, expertise, and infrastructure into developing the first atomic bomb (the precursor to basic nuclear power). There is no conceivable way in which that discrepancy can be validly explained. We're talking about one guy, with just the resources available to him as an individual, somehow making strides in multiple branches of science (simultaneously, no less) so large that, even 70 years later, no one else can even conceive the basic principles through which any of the major systems work. And he never published or patented any of his work, which makes just as little sense. And this kind of thing is constant for all of these impossible individuals.

It's like a guy in the early 1800s building a modern supercomputer. The entire concept, from start to finish, is fundamentally nonsensical. Every aspect of it is so impossible that it's absurd. Even with perfect intellect and know-how, the physical necessities for creating such a thing--the materials, the infrastructure, the tools, the facilities, the power grid, etc--simply don't exist and are so far from existing that he'd have to create all of them himself. And doing that introduces a staggering amount of further problems. Of course, that's assuming he has perfect intellect and know-how from the start--no one like that exists, even in comics, and it simply makes no sense that none of the people that do superscience ever publish or patent their findings/work. Or why the government never reaches out to these people to hire them or buy stuff/knowledge from them.

Simply put, it requires everyone in the world--especially the supergeniuses--to be complete morons where any super-science/tech is concerned, for all time. Not even Worm does it this badly--it definitely falls prey to the "physical impossibility of constructing such devices since the necessary tools, materials, infrastructure, facilities, machines, etc. don't exist" problems, but it does a fairly decent job of believably explaining why the supertech and superscience doesn't really get leveraged by society (not a good job, but a fairly decent one).
 
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The main rule that many authors forget when writing fanfics is "Frodo gets lightsaber, Sauron gets Death Star"
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No, this is a bad quote and you should feel bad for even parroting it. It is the opposite of good advice. If You make one OCP change to the setting (giving Frodo a Light Saber) the proper way to grow the setting is NOT making more OCP changes to the setting (Sauron getting a Death Star)

It is better to keep the initial deviations from canon minimal, and make sure everyone else in the setting reacts to Frodo w/Lightsaber in a realistic and believable manner consistent with their established character.

That doesn't mean that if she and Kon decide to have kids that they wont have to discuss adoption or Megan finding some people to BBQ, because if Zoat said that Megan still reproduces sexually I never saw it.
*Puts on Zoat Hat*
Renegade doesn't know how Megan's reproduction works since removing the Guardian's Block.
 
Hmm, I've probably mentioned this before, but with the surge in the interest and belief in Magic, all manner of old superstitions and entities will be regaining more of the strength and foothold in the mortal realms they once had.

What with there being BILLIONS of potentials now, perhaps even stronger.

Once people start believing in fairies, a whole lot of them will be coming back.

And there's one particular fae I want to see on Paul's team!

Yarrow, Fool of the Forthing!



Makes since that if Auberon and Titania want to make sure this current resurgence of faith in Faerie continues, they'll want a Fae superhero to make sure the belief keeps flowing!

And as the Fool of the Forthing, who tricked The Amadan and help to ensure the rebirth of all Faerie, she's smart enough to figure out how!

Of course, if Prince Taik has recovered from being possessed by a demon and turned into a horse, again, he'd probably make a good poster-child for Faerie!

He'd be Yarrow's sidekick!

(No, wait. She's a fool, he's a fairy prince.)

Vice-versa then!
 

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Actually I have questions. Questions that probably either have already been answered or will be answered in story, but still.

Primus- Are all instances of Paul secretly Grayven minus his memories and New God soul? Or did Grayven!Paul taking on that mantle rewrite his past and reality somehow?

Secundus- There was that thing with Ambush Bug, were the other Pauls aware of Orange!Paul after the fact?

Tertius- What does Zeus think of the weather control array? He's always seemed the jealous type, but maybe he could be pleased that mortals were taking some responsibility for it and he has even less work to do?

Quartus- how big of a bag of sorted and orderly dicks is Nabu anyway?

Quintus- unrelated in the extreme, do you have an fic recs for anything in a similar vein? I just binge read this and although I'll probably just go back and re-read it again, I require MOAR.

That's everything I can think of right now.
 
So New God tech is emotion powered in some ways like power rings tap into the Emotional Spectrum? Is that how Darkseld's forces were able to come up with the yellow feartech counter to the GL when they had the war with the GLC? Is that ability what separates the god tiers like the Maltusians and New Gods from merely powerful mundane groups like the Reach? Tapping into raw fundamental forces of the Earth-16 universe as opposed to just like fusion weapons or even Bleedtech power plants or something?
It was briefly touched on during Grayven's foray into Earth 50. New God tech works by linking up to the soul of a New God. The more powerful the God, the greater the result. They're also very advanced in conventional and arcane terms. Building a fear propagating device wasn't all that hard for them, they just hadn't had any reason to set it up in advance or learn that it was super effective against Green Lanterns. Once Desaad had a chance to dissect a ring they just threw Parademons at the Corps until his device was ready.
 
it definitely falls prey to the "physical impossibility of constructing such devices since the necessary tools, materials, infrastructure, facilities, machines, etc. don't exist"
You do realize the shards know about more then their hosts PoV, right? Like full Star Trek scanner arrays that reach into separate dimensions. And they are continent sized super computers. They can basically scan everything the host could gain access to at an atomic level, run it through a continent sized analytical engine, and transmit step by step instructions to the host in ways a WH40K STC cannot even do. And this is before the blatant cheating they can do behind the scenes to help black box and obfuscate the overall process. They create a corona inside a potential host before it ever triggers, think of the kind of delicate micro scale TK that takes. Now imagining it using that on the parts the host is working on, or even stuff the the host does not even know about yet, but will be brought to his attention later as a suitable component. Unbelievable tolerances that cannot be met by normal tools and human nerves are moot if the shard can shave or add a few microns when it needs to, to shift a contaminate that would spoil the work into a different dimension.

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just threw Parademons at the Corps until his device was ready.
Good ol plan 'We have tons of expendable reserves'
Also, they have the Parademon factories right there, one of the benefits of being attacked at your headquarters.
 
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I shake my head. "I'm sorry about that. I really never intended to regain my memories of Apokolips. But, the problem with erasing your memories.. is that you forget that you're not supposed to remember."
So that's the scenario! It is a credible one, if you want to fit in his "early" career, especially considering the new gods can reincarnate as humans. Has this particular bit of misinformation been referred to before?
 
So that's the scenario! It is a credible one, if you want to fit in his "early" career, especially considering the new gods can reincarnate as humans. Has this particular bit of misinformation been referred to before?
He's mentioned it in setting before, but it has only been referred to tangentially in the story.
 
United States House Appropriations Subcommittee on State, Foreign Operations, and Related Programs.
I'm familiar with the subcommittee in question but I have no idea how it gets abbreviated in congressional jargon.

Did you read the Fernus storyline the whole burning martian thing came from?

J'onn became a burning martian by being telepathically possessed by one, telepathy doesn't change DNA.

The difference between a modern martian and a burning one is the Guardian programming.

And that's confirmed in this story by the fact that the unborn martians are conditioned in the womb. If martians had been changed genetically so they can't become burning martians, there would be no need for telepathic conditioning.
That doesn't change the fact that M'gann has nigh half a century of experience being M'gann M'orzz, White Martian. Removing the mental block doesn't suddenly change who she is. She didn't immediately turn into a slavering flame beast. Given that she's still otherwise everything she was before, there is no reason to assume a priori that any other facets of normal Martian life will have been affected that radically -- that is, unless there's some explicit reason to believe otherwise, she probably reproduces the same way any other modern Martian does.
 
If Apokolips had actual weaknesses, someone would have exploited them by now. They have areas of less strength, and you can use those to attack them eventually, but you've got a lot of leveling up to do first.
Which is why Apokolips and Darkseid have never really been an unstoppable military force type enemy.

That was Imperiax.

Instead they almost always worked by subversion first to massively weaken a planet and then come in with what military force they do have to wrap up what's left. Knowing that they would be protected from counter attacks by the fact that nobody actually knew the location of or could get to Apokolips to do so. Along side the fact that most groups knew that Apokolips while a technologically powerful threat was limited in what it could do due to the difficulty in production the Element X required for their technology.

And that worked for making them into an interesting enemy that groups can still have a victory over.

But remove those weaknesses and limits in a way that has it so they never existed in the first place. And the other races would realistically have done things of their own to counter Apokolips's strength. Be that something like the Guardians installing mind control counters and setting exceptions to the non-lethal protocols for fighting Darkseids forces or the Reach massively increasing their Scarab production to the point where they could drown Apokolips's forces in Beatles if they were attacked by them.
 
Alright... now, these practitioners of chemistry. Is there a way to remove the sudafed from their bodies that would be nonlethal? Or, even better, legal? If not, I think it might be easier to get it from a pharmacy.
Sure. Wait a few days for them to pee it out.
Socially, using "super-science" to its full potential would render dozens of industries obsolete, resulting in mass lay-offs and a major economic recession as manufacturing infrastructure is reorganized.
That's happening now with regular science. Just slower.
If you've just finished binging, there's something you might not realize.

It updates nightly.
Depending on where you live, it might update daily.
It's like a guy in the early 1800s building a modern supercomputer. The entire concept, from start to finish, is fundamentally nonsensical. Every aspect of it is so impossible that it's absurd. Even with perfect intellect and know-how, the physical necessities for creating such a thing--the materials, the infrastructure, the tools, the facilities, the power grid, etc--simply don't exist and are so far from existing that he'd have to create all of them himself
I agree that the way DC does it is rather fundamentally incoherent, but it isn't as much of a stretch as you make it sound to make things that are centuries ahead of their time if given the proper knowledge. Given sufficient copper and smithing tools, you could make some basic electrical generation and devices in the time of the Roman Empire.

Also, the Reds work on some form of magic, so that could be part of it.
If You make one OCP change to the setting (giving Frodo a Light Saber) the proper way to grow the setting is NOT making more OCP changes to the setting (Sauron getting a Death Star)

It is better to keep the initial deviations from canon minimal, and make sure everyone else in the setting reacts to Frodo w/Lightsaber in a realistic and believable manner consistent with their established character.
Mmmmmmm. Depends. If you want to make a story where conflict against an outside force is the major driving force for the plot, then it would be bad writing to make the protagonist much more powerful than the antagonist(s). Frodo walking up to the Nazgul and beheading them, and continuing to do that for the entire story, would be boring. I agree it's not necessary to make the main antagonist be physically more powerful than the protagonist, but the story has to be focused on something besides fighting then.
 
Mmmmmmm. Depends. If you want to make a story where conflict against an outside force is the major driving force for the plot, then it would be bad writing to make the protagonist much more powerful than the antagonist(s). Frodo walking up to the Nazgul and beheading them, and continuing to do that for the entire story, would be boring. I agree it's not necessary to make the main antagonist be physically more powerful than the protagonist, but the story has to be focused on something besides fighting then.
There's other ways to sidestep that issue. For example, what you're fighting could change you, so you'd have to choose between leaving things be or knowing you won't be the same when you've fixed the issue.
 
Yes, but that falls under changing the focus of the story. The main conflict is no longer between the main character and the big bad villain. It's an internal struggle then.
It's a better kind of struggle when your MC reaches a certain power level (in relation to what he usually fights). After all, no one really wonders if superman can beat the next big bad, what's interesting is seeing him struggle with his convictions and such. Plus in this story I've always found the more internal battles and general uplifting to be more interesting than righteous face punching.
 
It's a better kind of struggle when your MC reaches a certain power level (in relation to what he usually fights). After all, no one really wonders if superman can beat the next big bad, what's interesting is seeing him struggle with his convictions and such. Plus in this story I've always found the more internal battles and general uplifting to be more interesting than righteous face punching.

I feel like this is what OL is for the league, actually.
 
Given sufficient copper and smithing tools, you could make some basic electrical generation and devices in the time of the Roman Empire.
Indeed. There were some terra cotta pots discovered in Iraq containing iron tubes and copper rods that, if assembled and filled with an acidic solution, could have generated about a volt of electricity. No credible archaeologist actually thinks that it was actually USED that way, and instead it was probably a weather-sealed scroll case, but it COULD have functioned using only technology known at the time (estimated to be in the 3rd century AD). It would have only required the right kind of accidental discovery to have set off an electrical revolution 1600 years early.
 
People already do believe in fairies and they did come back.
Or did you mean some other fairies? :rofl::rofl::lol
.....More of a...traditional sort, rather.



But, considering the origins of the Fair Folk...


I suppose there's room enough for the saccharine sweet and often seemingly embarrassing interpretations of mortal folk!

Titania probably had the Disney Fae locked up, out of fear of being contaminated by them.

The poor things.:(
 
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