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It could just be that a large proportion don't breed at all. Or that they don't mind high population density and have the entirety of the inside of Mars to inhabit if they so choose. I don't know what Mister Weisman planned and I don't have a firm idea myself.
 
Then why would M'gann say "staggered pregnancies"?

...maybe it's the fact that I accidentally pulled an all-nighter, but I'm not seeing how those are mutually exclusive? You can stagger out your pregnancies and still have a large percentage of dead children after they're born. The two might even be related: after a child or two dies, I could see some reluctance to try again for some time afterwards.
 
...maybe it's the fact that I accidentally pulled an all-nighter, but I'm not seeing how those are mutually exclusive? You can stagger out your pregnancies and still have a large percentage of dead children after they're born. The two might even be related: after a child or two dies, I could see some reluctance to try again for some time afterwards.
She said that "Most of my brothers and sisters are adults now." Even if we conservatively say she only meant 15 of the 30 are now adults, that's still an extreme ratio of parents to children, and doesn't alleviate the fundamental overpopulation issue. There would need to be some other mechanism to keep the population from becoming absurd.

Also, I'd find it unlikely that a species with roughly similar child-rearing values as humans in addition to advanced biotechnology would allow so many of their children to die early.
Or that they don't mind high population density and have the entirety of the inside of Mars to inhabit if they so choose.
For a species so afraid of leaving their planet, I think they should at least realize the unsustainability of that plan.
 
Too much power for a technology the Earth can currently create and maintain on an alien world. The SI is holding Bleed Torsion Generators over the heads of energy providers in an attempt to make them get creative.

The SI can do all kinds of things, but his aim is to make it so that he doesn't have to.
Shouldn't his aim also be to give M'gann a way to visit home whenever she wants even after he leaves the system?
 
Why use zeta tube to connect mars and earth? isn't the MC explicitly building a network of magitech gates based subway that doesn't require any energy? just get one of those to connect mars and earth
High mortality rate before adulthood?
I don't think so, the context was that they do not need to fit 30 around a table because most of them are adults who don't live with their parents rather than most of them being dead
It could just be that a large proportion don't breed at all. Or that they don't mind high population density and have the entirety of the inside of Mars to inhabit if they so choose. I don't know what Mister Weisman planned and I don't have a firm idea myself.
It isn't a matter of not minding high population density, but rather that after X generations their planet will run out of space
 
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I'd almost expect this to create a rather... Barsoomian mindset among the Ma'alaca'andrans; everyone, no matter how much you may happen to like them, is still ultimately competing for painfully limited resources, so conflict resolution via murder has become almost acceptable on a cultural level - no matter how hard they may try to hold to higher ideals, even the most "civilized" Martians are going to realize that without instituting extreme controls on who's allowed to breed (in which case the White Martians get shafted by the majority, realize the gentle genocide that will probably result from being last in line to procreate, and flip out), there needs to be some other form of population control to keep things from getting out of hand, especially considering they're confined to semi-habitable caverns with commensurately limited living space & room for growing food.

Essentially, the tendency for Ma'aleca'andran killers to get off easier than they probably should occupies the same "cringe and change the subject" status for the Martians as how we Americans respond to people bringing up our own issues with racism, or trying to seriously discuss the death penalty. Meanwhile, J'onn spends so much time on Earth because it's a place where he can escape that tainted mental paradigm, do his job in an environment that feels less tacitly accepting of 'extreme measures.'
 
Why use zeta tube to connect mars and earth?
You know, I should really get around to writing a section on that at some point.
Isn't the MC explicitly building a network of magitech gates based subway that doesn't require any energy? just get one of those to connect mars and earth.
No, he isn't. Sephtian can build Dolmen Gates -though not particularly fast- and they only really work as far as the moon. This came up a page or so ago.
It isn't a matter of not minding high population density, but rather that after X generations their planet will run out of space
You've got about thirty miles of basalt top to bottom around the whole planet, and that's only if you don't want to build on the surface at all. Or build floating habitat platforms. Which they can these days, they just chose not to. It's going to be a very long time before they have a serious problem.
You guys know M'gann's family could just be an exception and not the rule right?
Hate to admit it, but that genuinely never occurred to me.
 
Hate to admit it, but that genuinely never occurred to me.
Seemed like the most logical answer to me, we have families that large on Earth after all but they're not really the norm.

And it would fit with the way both of the members that we know of the family don't exactly have the standard Martian mentality or cultural hangups. Suggesting at least the possibility that they were raised in an environment that was different in some manner then most Martians.
 
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Well, that's true when the speed of light is the maximum possible speed that any information can propagate. Then, arriving before your light can reach somewhere would be time travel. When lightspeed is just the speed light happens to travel at and is not the fastest possible speed, it gets a little less clear.
It's still perfectly clear. The speed of light isn't a special constant that applies to light in particular. It's a relationship between distances in space and durations of time that affects the shape of the universe. And being able to FTL or instant teleport means you can choose proper reference frames to do it in such that you arrive before you left and shake hands with your pre-trip self. Because once you do perform that transition, reality (ours at least) stops caring how you got there and lets you come back under normal physics. Hopefully this doesn't summon clockwork spiders.
 
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He is going to be waiting a long time then.

In one elseworld, Lex killed Supes as a baby and reverse engineered kryptonian solar absorption to create super efficient solar technology.

Then there's the literally infinite quantum field that Captain Atom taps into. If Zoat doesn't use Silver Shield, since he had never heard of the character before I mentioned him, then instead of a quantum field dilustel space whale they got the dilustel from a space ship, well one would have to assume that the spaceship used the dilustel as the power source.

Martin Allard was able to duplicate Captain Atom's origin using X-ionized material to also tap into the quantum field.

Maybe Mars is bigger on the inside?

In their revised origin the Faceless Hunters are one of the three races of Saturn, created by the Yellow Martians, and the Faceless Hunters have either the technology or the technique to change their size from subatomic to "fee fi fo fum."

So it's possible. Zoat probably won't do it like that, but possible.

Very much not happening in this story.

What, did Ghosts of Mars traumatize you? lol

The warships arrived before the invitation. And invited or not, Mars would have be be concerned about their neighbour suddenly having that many ships parked on their lawn. Remember the Cuban Missile Crisis?

That assumes that the starships are noticeable from Mars, since the reach have the technology to avoid Lantern scans I'd say their stealth technology is very advanced.

And no I don't remember the Cuban Missile Crisis, I was born in the seventies. :)

And if America was populated by beings that are in the Kryptonian range on the scale of things you run away from in a fight, I suspect the reaction would have been far more relaxed.
 
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**Martians hate going that far away from other minds too much to want to come to Earth. Mars has space capable warships, but we can't borrow them because-.**

**The crew can't leave Mars.**
What is the bare minimum of minds needed for Martians have a "comfort zone"? A dozen? A hundred?

How small can a Martian starship be and still be classified as a warship? I know Flower-class corvette destroyers had a crew complement of 90 and Gato-class submarines had a crew of 50, which is tiny in comparison to modern Destroyers (+300) and Aircraft Carriers (+500).

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Every society has its outliers and misfits, so there might be a few Martians willing to go to Earth as a group vacation or "class trip" so long as the group is large enough to create a psychic "comfort zone".

Hypothetically, if OL someone managed to get 40-50 Martians to visit Earth for a few weeks, where would be a good place to host them? London? Berlin? San Francisco? Amsterdam? I'm shying away from New York City simply because it's feels like the center of the comic book universe (at least in Marvel comics*) and I want to see something different as a change of pace. Keystone City could be a nice, as it'd get the Flash involved who we haven't seen much of in a while.

*Tourist: "God, I can't throw a rock in New York City without hitting a superhero. Watch this."
Spider-Man: "Ow!"
Daredevil: "How did it hit you? I thought you have a danger sense."
Spider-Man: "I'm a Bug-type, which means I'm vulnerable to Rock type attacks."

 
Maybe Mars is bigger on the inside?
I'd hope so. It would be odd for a planet to have less volume inside its crust than on its surface.
That's what the race wars are for.

It's still perfectly clear. The speed of light isn't a special constant that applies to light in particular. It's a relationship between distances in space and durations of time that affects the shape of the universe. And being able to FTL or instant teleport means you can choose proper reference frames to do it in such that you arrive before you left and shake hands with your pre-trip self. Because once you do perform that transition, reality (ours at least) stops caring how you got there and lets you come back under normal physics. Hopefully this doesn't summon clockwork spiders.
This is all true for our world. But for Earth 16 where FTL is relatively easy, it must be the case that information can propogate faster than light can. In this case, it's just the speed that light happens to travel at, not a fundamental limit to the speed that things can travel at.
 
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This is all true for our world. But for Earth 16 where FTL is relatively easy, it must be the case that information can propogate faster than light can. In this case, it's just the speed that light happens to travel at, not a fundamental limit to the speed that things can travel at.
Technically speaking nothing in Earth 16 actually travels faster then light, it just cheats by messing with space/time and alternate dimensions.
 
I just had the mental image of J'onn and M'gann's family being the Martian equivalent of Religious extemist's - the ones with the huge families. Of course, what sort of extremism are they advocating? Which would also explain why they are different from others - and what other differences do other members of their family have? Is J'arknn related to them? Lots of interesting possibilities.
 
Zeta radiation? Lantern FTL? People on Velocity 9/10? The Flash's feet when running at light speed? I don't believe it's ever been stated in or out of story that this is the case.
Nothing has been mentioned about Zeta radiation, but Lantern FTL at least in this story allows anyone using it to pass through solid matter so it's probably either space warping or dimension skipping.
 
There is another option that could stave of overpopulation and still have large families in addition to high mortality or Miss M's family being unusually large.

A very long adult phase

humans have roughly
2 decades youth, 4 decades breeding adult, 4 decades old

Martians might have something like
5 decades youth, 100 decades breeding adult, 20 decades old

It wouldn't be surprising if shape shifters could live and breed for a long time due to having very malleable bodies. Then overpopulation might take quite a while if each adult only had children every 4 decades or so.
 
Zeta radiation? Lantern FTL? People on Velocity 9/10? The Flash's feet when running at light speed? I don't believe it's ever been stated in or out of story that this is the case.
IIRC, OL's ring-based FTL involves transit through the Elemental Plane of Avarice, without technically moving through normal space at superluminal velocity. Dunno about the other ones, but to go back to this:
Any form of instant teleportation is a time machine called the tachyonic antitelephone.
It's also worh noting that dolmen gates are not actually teleportation; they use sympathetic magic to cause both ends to occupy the same space. Presumably putting them on separate planets with different orbits would require a lot more magic to smooth over the relativity issues, but it's, you know, magic. So why not?
 
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