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Honestly, I think the Doomsday connection is being blown way out of proportion. The amount of genetic drift that human tampering has caused should make them pretty far removed from what Doomsday was.

Amusingly, if they are based on Doomsday, Kon's that much more Kryptonian than he thought he was.
 
Dang, everyone guessed Doomsday before me.
He supposedly had the ability to evolve any trait he might need for survival, so yeah telepathic hive mind.
Also while he was created by kryptonians, he's still a genetically engineered life form so there's no guarantee there would be enough similarities with normal kryptonians for someone without a doctorate in kryptonian biology to tell.
 
In that case, won't he stop being such a huge raging asshole? I mean, hive mind > individual mind, no?
Not when Doomsday is involved.

Basic rule of thumb: Doomsday beats everything. Sometimes it takes a while, not always instantaneous, but yeah. Everything.

Doomsday vs Superman? Doomsday wins.
Doomsday vs Darkseid? Doomsday wins.
Doomsday vs The Guardians of the Universe? Doomsday wins.

Doomsday always wins.
 
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Not when Doomsday is involved.

Basic rule of thumb: Doomsday beats everything. Sometimes it takes a while, not always instantaneous, but yeah. Everything.

Doomsday vs Superman? Doomsday wins.
Doomsday vs Darkseid? Doomsday wins.
Doomsday vs The Giardians of the Universe? Doomsday wins.

Doomsday always wins.
Doomsday vs sword of the fallen?
Should work at least once
 
Right up until Doomsday actually shows up and gets automatically added to the hivemind.
I have a distant genetic ancestor that lived in the ocean. Curiously, I don't gain gills in water. Similarly, telepathy isn't part of the regular Doomsday power package, so it's equally likely that the genomorphs represent a mutation that propagated advantageously.

Yeah, I get that Doomsday is scary, but he's only really scary when you insist on engaging him in the Face Punchy sort of way. Assimilation only needs to work once and he becomes a non issue.
 
With his adaption and absorptive cells there's no way to know what powers Doomsday would have had by the time his remains impacted Earth in Young Justice or what the effects of combining his DNA with other creatures like possibly martians or other aliens might have had.

Doomsday adapts to survive, that's the point of his shtick.

For a telepathic hivemind to help him survive, there must be more than one of him. There's no advantage to a telepathic hivemind with oneself.

So if the doomsday guess is right then you guys are underselling it.

It's not doomsday, it's doomsdays.

Inspirations from the comics- Darkseid having Desaad clone him an army of doomsdays. In the comics, Darkseid encountered Doomsday 245,000 years ago on Bylan 5, where Doomsday killed Darkseid's uncle, and Darkseid fled for his life. Perhaps in this fic he left with a DNA sample.

Reign of Doomsday- 4 doomsdays, no waiting. It's unclear to me where exactly the extra copies came from. Lex Luther or Sam Lane's project commit kryptonian genocide perhaps?

In New 52, Superman killed Doomsday, only to be infected by a disease that is turning him into Doomsday.

The evil superboy doppelganger Black Zero collected himself a bunch of Doomsdays from various realities.

Yeah, I get that Doomsday is scary, but he's only really scary when you insist on engaging him in the Face Punchy sort of way. Assimilation only needs to work once and he becomes a non issue.

In the comics, Doomsday slaughtered his way through the Green Lantern Corps and killed a Guardian. If that incident happened in this setting, I doubt a mere change in color is going to impress him much. The Guardian believed that Doomsday was draining him of energy.
 
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I don't believe it's been mentioned in the comments, or at least it hasn't since I've joined and started paying attention, but has anyone in the Renegade timeline noticed that an alien who never knew English previously, and deals all but exclusively with Americans, uses British English to a fault? Gravy has dealings with Chester and recently Verra, but Chester has a much different accent and pattern of speech.

Actually, I could see Lex bringing that up at some point. Seems like something he would be mildly curious about.

Every one knows that british people make the best villians.
 
so is anyone else getting the feeling that graven is starting to prick at lex's xenophobia? He's an alien telling him that something is to dangerous, and that it's something humans aren't ready for. That reach exceeding our grasp line sounded just a touch defensive. Now graven is absolutely 100% right in this situation, but lex has a long history of being less than rational when it comes to super powered aliens.
 
so is anyone else getting the feeling that graven is starting to prick at lex's xenophobia? He's an alien telling him that something is to dangerous, and that it's something humans aren't ready for. That reach exceeding our grasp line sounded just a touch defensive. Now graven is absolutely 100% right in this situation, but lex has a long history of being less than rational when it comes to super powered aliens.
In fairness, Grayven explained exactly why Lex's intended course of action was dangerous in clear, concrete terms. He isn't saying humanity isn't ready because it isn't moral responsible enough, he's saying humanity isn't ready because it needs moar dakka.
 
yeah, graven is being exceedingly polite and fairly professional here, but wounded pride and xenophobia are far from rational. Keep in mind this lex never had the epiphany that caused the paragon side lex to mellow, I mean he was using the word alien like a swear word in a conversation with an alien. Lex has issues, and as pleasantly professor as he is being, graven is kinda poking them. Hell the fact that the renegade is both right and respectful might actually make it worse.
 
Doomsday always wins.
Except against Imperiax a literal universe killer.


Doomsday vs sword of the fallen?

Should work at least once
Unless someone or something with a godly weapon has already killed him once before.


Doomsday versus Earth 16 Nerfing?
If everything is nerfed equally that would still likely put Doomsday above Darkseid as a threat.
 
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1) How the heck did they get a telepathic hive mind out of Doomsday?
The version of Doomsday I'm familiar with?

He was created by essentially trying to save-scum comic book evolution. Clone him up, send him out, scrape up what's left when he dies, recycle the DNA into the next clone so it'll be a little more resistant to whatever did the last one in.

Eventually, this resulted in the unstoppable monster we all know - but in addition to accelerating the rate at which he adapts to harmful stimuli, at some point his power decided that not being able to remember what killed him in past incarnations was a disadvantageous trait, since it was depriving him of information on what not to do. It gave him a sort of psychometry that only worked for showing him all the times where he was injured or killed. Except it doesn't turn off, ever.

Doomsday's infantile consciousness is constantly remembering a billion gruesome deaths, and thus is effectively unable to tell those apart from its actual sensory input and just kind of freaks out at everything all the time. He's trapped in an eternal hell because of a malformed psionic ability.

Apparently, the Genomorphs managed to inherit a derivative that actually did something useful.
 
I'd would like Granny Goodness to meet Doomsday. It would be... amusing....
Granny: "Now you stop that and come with Granny! Be a good little..."
Doomsday: "Graaaaahhhh!"
*wam! BAm! Sproing! Crunk! Sprak!*
Darksied: "... Someone scrape what is left of Granny Goodness up and get it to a cloning lab."
 
Actually, considering what the Kryptonian scientist (for lack of a better term) did, it's possible the genomorphs were formed from one of Doomsday's predecessors. It seems likely the asteroid with it's remains was from a previous attempt, and was part of what the 'scientist' didn't take with to form the next level of the creature. Especially if this was the first version with the psionic abilities, which would help explain the differences in the genomorph's abilities and those of the eventual Doomsday.

And Doomsday did get destroyed by one thing, pretty permanently. A time traveler took him to the end of the universe. That was the only thing he couldn't recover from.
 
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