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Shepard Quest Mk VII, Age of Revy (ME/MCU)

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The Battle of Torfan is not going to be a fun fight.

8 Allied Dreadnoughts vs. 12 Batarian Dreadnought equivalents
689 Allied Cruisers vs. 950+ Batarian Cruisers
5,803 Allied Frigates (incl. 85 Pyndas) vs. 5,100+ Batarian Frigates

Those are not good numbers considering the attacker is already inherently at a disadvantage. Throw in that they have an Orbital Station, Ground-To-Orbit weaponry, and likely an advantage in fighters/bombers (they don't have to transport them in) and those numbers become real bad. I can only guess the reason they are still going ahead with Operation Tsunami is that they are hoping the Alliance's technological lead is sufficient to make up the difference.

Maybe if those hundred extra LLPs we delivered were ready, rather then presumably awaiting crews and final test fights, were involved I'd be more optimistic but as is this is probably going to be very near thing.
 
They gotta take the slavers out now since they're bridging the gap. Plus aren't the council races sending their boys as well? Terminus probably balanced that out.
 
[X] Offer to refer him to Paragon Securities

Does... does this make us the equivalent of Dr. Erskine for Volus!SteveRogers?

[X] Image 3

This one seems to be closest to showing Revi's actual age.
 
Oh gods. Looking at the old Pynda concept art makes me want to crawl into a hole.

Compared to what I know now, I had no clue what I was doing back then from an engineering standpoint.

I need to make an updated one.
 
Does anyone still remember how long until our long-term study on the effects of the recreational drug that we obtained from Terminus is finished?, I couldn't find this info in the informative section, neither how fabrication/sales works.
 
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Wooho!, nice to see this back again.

[X] Offer to refer him to Paragon Securities

He wants to do good in the galaxy not bodyguard us so offering to refer him is more inline with his wants,
also we need to create the Peak Volus treatment now!

[X] Image 5

I like this one the best, but they all have some weird eyes.
 
UberJJK said:
The Battle of Torfan is not going to be a fun fight.

8 Allied Dreadnoughts vs. 12 Batarian Dreadnought equivalents
689 Allied Cruisers vs. 950+ Batarian Cruisers
5,803 Allied Frigates (incl. 85 Pyndas) vs. 5,100+ Batarian Frigates

Those are not good numbers considering the attacker is already inherently at a disadvantage. Throw in that they have an Orbital Station, Ground-To-Orbit weaponry, and likely an advantage in fighters/bombers (they don't have to transport them in) and those numbers become real bad. I can only guess the reason they are still going ahead with Operation Tsunami is that they are hoping the Alliance's technological lead is sufficient to make up the difference.

Maybe if those hundred extra LLPs we delivered were ready, rather then presumably awaiting crews and final test fights, were involved I'd be more optimistic but as is this is probably going to be very near thing.
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I don't disagree, but I'd be surprised if everyone pairs up against peer opponents. Weren't there discussions about how many LLPs it took to take down a Dreadnought? Didn't we outfit everyone with missiles capable of taking down strikecraft squadrons, and allow strikecraft to threaten frigates? (Don't the Systems Alliance have a bunch of carriers as part of their effort to sidestep Dreadnought restrictions?)

I agree that this is unlikely to be a walk in the park, but I still like our odds at victory.

Edit: And if we picked up the location of the ambushing force, I imagine we could show up there and hand them a defeat in detail.
 
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Slamu said:
I don't disagree, but I'd be surprised if everyone pairs up against peer opponents. Weren't there discussions about how many LLPs it took to take down a Dreadnought? Didn't we outfit everyone with missiles capable of taking down strikecraft squadrons, and allow strikecraft to threaten frigates? (Don't the Systems Alliance have a bunch of carriers as part of their effort to sidestep Dreadnought restrictions?)

I agree that this is unlikely to be a walk in the park, but I still like our odds at victory.

Edit: And if we picked up the location of the ambushing force, I imagine we could show up there and hand them a defeat in detail.
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the ambushing force is within the same system near the moon of Torfan so ambushing them would leave you open to the rest of the enemy ships.
 
Slamu said:
I don't disagree, but I'd be surprised if everyone pairs up against peer opponents. Weren't there discussions about how many LLPs it took to take down a Dreadnought? Didn't we outfit everyone with missiles capable of taking down strikecraft squadrons, and allow strikecraft to threaten frigates? (Don't the Systems Alliance have a bunch of carriers as part of their effort to sidestep Dreadnought restrictions?)

I agree that this is unlikely to be a walk in the park, but I still like our odds at victory.
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The first thing to keep in mind is that when attacking a fortified enemy, at least for land engagements, the general rule of thumb, although there has been much debate about it, is you need a three to one advantage to win and any less is taking on a significant risk of defeat. We don't have a three to one advantage; in fact in most categories we have a numbers disadvantage.

This is made worse by Lancaster's Laws which basically state that the military power of a unit is the square of its number and the relative strength of two armies is the difference of these squares. So if we take the Dreadnoughts for example our 8 represent a strength of 64 while their 12 a strength of 144 meaning that in Dreadnoughts they have over double the combat ability.


Now as you say we do have an number of force multipliers in play here. Pyndas, the Alliance's upgraded Frigates and Cruisers, the Turians' vast institutional experiance in interstellar warfare, ect. But the point is that we are starting off at a significant disadvantage here and relying on those advantages to make up the difference.

I don't expect the Alliance-Citadel forces to lose, if nothing else it would make the buildup to Revy's (remote) combat kinda pointless, but I do expect this will be very bloody and costly battle. A real butcher's bill as befitting the Battle of Torfan.
 
Is the Drell father & son Thane and Kolyat? Even if we don't get the Volus guy to be Revy's friend I'd like to have a nice alien assassin hanging around.
 
[X] Offer to refer him to Paragon Securities
[X] Image 6

I'm also okay with Images 2 and 3. 6 Had the best vibe for me, though.
 
We should look at getting our intel types to leak Batarian vulnerabilities to others who can take advantage to create strife between those pulling the strings. Maybe get some ships pulled to cover other assets.

I wonder if Revy could create a virus that would make any omnitool or other device it got on transmit disable/open implant/collar commands to slave implant/collars in the vicinity with any relevent codes on the device (or nearby ones). Slave uprisings are a little distracting after all when most of your population is enslaved.
 
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Slamu said:
I don't disagree, but I'd be surprised if everyone pairs up against peer opponents. Weren't there discussions about how many LLPs it took to take down a Dreadnought? Didn't we outfit everyone with missiles capable of taking down strikecraft squadrons, and allow strikecraft to threaten frigates? (Don't the Systems Alliance have a bunch of carriers as part of their effort to sidestep Dreadnought restrictions?)

I agree that this is unlikely to be a walk in the park, but I still like our odds at victory.

Edit: And if we picked up the location of the ambushing force, I imagine we could show up there and hand them a defeat in detail.
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Those discussions implicitly assumed that the LLP would have infinite space and time and time to kite the dreadnought over, to truely take advantage of the difference in missile speed and power generation, which usually would be a reasonable assumption for space, which is known for being large and empty.
However having to rely on relay travel changes that.
Unless we park the fleet at the nearest undefended Relay to Torfan and fly there using 'conventional' ME travel, which would take the fleet out of action for days or even possibly years and allow the Turians all that time to pick new fights elsewhere, then having to exit the relay puts a very hard limit on how far back we can run.
And not only is there no room to move back, if you're not moving forward, you risk getting hit in the back when your reinforcements fall in out of light speed.
 
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tri2 said:
For some reason technology had basically be stagnant for the past 2000 years, even all the tech today was essentially just a better version of what they had back then, but nothing truly new.
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No disrespect but pretty sure that's pure fanon. IIRC tech is advancing all the time in Mass Effect with one example being Wrex noting that his old ancestral armor was a piece of junk compared to more modern armor. And while tech does seem to slow down development wise think that's more due to hitting a sort of 'soft cap' where further technological becomes harder.

Not to mention that using Revy as a benchmark doesn't work in any situation here considering that she is literally a super genius that is comic book level smart. She is so unique that the Reapers, a super advanced race that is literally millions of years old with numerous unique advanced technology, considers her a one of a kind being that impresses even them as a whole.

Though this may be handwaved away as humans in general just having a pretty biased view of things thanks to only being on the galactic scene for around 30 years and having a comic book level super genius constantly making new tech. That and/or just maybe editing it from 2000 years to 200 years since that seems a lot more reasonable considering that they have been at peace for around that much time IIRC and they were already pretty relatively advanced at that time.
 
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