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What is Fate? (Percy Jackson and the Olympians Quest)

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[X]][Imbue] Imbue the plant with the concept of piercing, since you want to stab things with your plants.
[X][Trent] Accept (call your dad and let him know)
Im thinking something like darts for the dandelions, and what about carrying around a seed pouch, or hiding some in a pocket?
 
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zxzx24 said:
If we're not playing plants vs Zombies by then we've done something horribly wrong.

We should also send a note to our dad asking if he can get any wild predatory plants from the Amazon. There is a small hobbyist market for predatory plants online.
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Oh, on the topic of exploding plants, what about plants that release methane or some other explosive gas?
Like, the same way swamps produce that stuff? Just get a root or branch to light a match and BOOM!
 
Plausitivity said:
Oh, on the topic of exploding plants, what about plants that release methane or some other explosive gas?
Like, the same way swamps produce that stuff? Just get a root or branch to light a match and BOOM!
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youve earned points in my book. just plant a number of things that release methane either slowly or over time.

we'll probably have to test it away from camp cause bad smell and explosives ya know
 
Lifeandlice said:
youve earned points in my book. just plant a number of things that release methane either slowly or over time.

we'll probably have to test it away from camp cause bad smell and explosives ya know
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*sniff sniff* "Is that manure?"
Success! The camp has been totally destroyed, along with all signs of my complicity!
 
I saw a lot of people talking about prayer and worshiping the Greek Gods, gotta step in and discuss this, though it may have been dropped and people moved on... Eh, I've typed all this up, might as well post it.

First off, I feel this is a bad idea. We start worshipping them, we go from 'child of a god' and downgrade to 'follower of a god'.

Throughout the series it's sorta of shown that while the Greek Gods are powerful, far more than a demigod, they are also flawed. They make stupid choices and decisions, lack control over themselves, generally don't learn from their mistakes unless forced to, have personality flaws, and are forced to follow rules (even if the rules are stupid or a huge hinderance). Zeus is basically a prime example, with the other gods generally following course, though there are differences between them because of their domains (or personalities or both). They also tend to range from 'jerks' to 'semi-decent' in regard toward their children.

I mean, Poseidon was basically a huge help and that was him having to skirt and bend multiple rules to help Percy, I believe. Even then, Percy still doesn't worship him or such. He'll pray in emergencies (generally to ask for some guidance or to tell someone something or pass a message), work with them to help out everyone, even offer up a sacrifice or two as to follow the rules and let the gods act (like sacrificing the Nemean Lion Pelt to his father to ask for safe passage for the Ophiotaurus and Grover to the East Coast to keep them out of the Titans' hands, though any god with a brain should be willing to help out, rules forced payment before action or sometimes forbid action at all).

Basically, they're people. Flawed, really powerful people. So, we shouldn't depend on worshipping them for power or help. We can work with them, work around them, help them, but don't go in leaning on them.
 
Lifeandlice said:
true enough but with magic and knowledge of chemical based explosions it shouldnt be terribly hard. i mean if a beetle can make chemical explosions than surely we can get atleast one plant to do the same.
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Plausitivity said:
Ah, but the decomposition of one thing promotes the growth of another. It's
THE CIRCLE OF LIIIIIFE!
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(Sorry, watched Lion King recently)
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You gentlemen are looking for yeast. Specifically weaponized chemical producing yeast.

Try not to destroy the world with it o.k?

Edit. It is a microscopic fungus, but hopefully it's use in agriculture will let us affect it with our power.

Also as far as "eat hydrocarbons poop chemicals" yeast is your buddy.
 
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zxzx24 said:
You gentlemen are looking for yeast. Specifically weaponized chemical producing yeast.

Try not to destroy the world with it o.k?

Edit. It is a microscopic fungus, but hopefully it's use in agriculture will let us affect it with our power.

Also as far as "eat hydrocarbons poop chemicals" yeast is your buddy.
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i promise nothing but that our enemies shall cease to be an issue. :\/
 
Hopefully we won't be focused on weaponry forever. Before we move on though I'd suggest moss nets to hamper movement, block vision and dampen specific effects. You know, over damaging areas with tough roots or expending more energy on explicitly magical plants.
 
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ChildishChimera said:
No cause then Luke would just Artemis instead of just his dad, and Thalia still has no reason to join a group full of strangers for people she considereds her family
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So this doesn't give any reason against Zoë being saved, if we do get Thalia to join the hunters early. Only a reason against Thalia joining which was not what I was wondering.

I mean the line from the prophecy in Titans Curse "and one shall perish by a parent's hand" was a way to kill off Zoë, get Thalia to join the hunt (stopping her from turning 16) and making Percy the next in line to be the child of prophecy. If Thalia joined the hunt early there would be no need for that convoluted scenario and the only real reason to put that line in the prophecy would be because it happened in the book at which point it becomes whether the QM wants to change it or not.

Edit: also Thalia joined the hunters to get out of being the child of prophecy. Telling her the prophecy might be enough to get her to join.
 
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We're going to be the most combat adept child of Demeter to have ever existed! Granted I doubt that's a high bar but still an achievement in my book.
 
Just read through all of this today so sorry if someone has already mentioned it but I highly doubt the camp Trent mentioned is actually half blood.
He is trying to take blossom there but not us which would mean he doesn't know we are a demi-god. But if he didn't know we were a demi-god he wouldn't have offered to take us if we wanted to go because mortals don't go to half blood. So either he knows we are a demi god but for some reason didn't ask us directly, or this isn't half blood at all.
 
pancakes said:
Just read through all of this today so sorry if someone has already mentioned it but I highly doubt the camp Trent mentioned is actually half blood.
He is trying to take blossom there but not us which would mean he doesn't know we are a demi-god. But if he didn't know we were a demi-god he wouldn't have offered to take us if we wanted to go because mortals don't go to half blood. So either he knows we are a demi god but for some reason didn't ask us directly, or this isn't half blood at all.
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A lot of people are suspecting that Blossom is also a demigod, possible a child of Aphrodite with how it was empathized that she was so pretty, 'like comic book pretty'. Her mom was described as 'having died in a car accident' that also crippled Blossom when she was 4. Plus, there's how her dad is, constantly drinking. I mean, it's made pretty obvious in the later series that Tristan McLean (Piper's dad) never got over her either, and that Aphrodite is willing to never tell her lovers that she's Aphrodite and that the gods are real, and she's also demonstrated that she is also willing to disappear suddenly without a word.

That being said, you do have a point. Trent could be a monster in disguise, along with Blossom, trying to lure us away. Her history and appearance could be a disguise and lie, with her using crutches because she has monster legs (like satyrs have goat legs), with a sad sob story of a bullied pretty girl being crippled when she was little, losing her mother to the crash and her father to alcohol and because of this she has a sad reluctance to talk about the details of her life.
 
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Wind Jackal said:
A lot of people are suspecting that Blossom is also a demigod, possible a child of Aphrodite with how it was empathized that she was so pretty, 'like comic book pretty'. Her mom was described as 'having died in a car accident' that also crippled Blossom when she was 4. Plus, there's how her dad is, constantly drinking. I mean, it's made pretty obvious in the later series that Tristan McLean (Piper's dad) never got over her either, and that Aphrodite is willing to never tell her lovers that she's Aphrodite and that the gods are real, and she's also demonstrated that she is also willing to disappear suddenly without a word.

That being said, you do have a point. Trent could be a monster in disguise, along with Blossom, trying to lure us away. Her history and appearance could be a disguise and lie, with her using crutches because she has monster legs (like satyrs have goat legs), with a sad sob story of a bullied pretty girl being crippled when she was little, losing her mother to the crash and her father to alcohol and because of this she has a sad reluctance to talk about the details of her life.
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I'm 90% confident someone is a monster in disguise considering zombies have stopped appearing and we haven't seen any reason why, logically something should be attracted by our smell and if we can't find anything its probably a human in disguise.
 
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[X][Imbue] Imbue the plant with the concept of suppression. It certainly won't suppress anything significant, but it might make your opponent weaker
[X][Trent] Accept (call your dad and let him know)
 
[X][Imbue] Imbue the plant with the concept of durability. That way it will be harder for you enemies to break free from them.
[X][Trent] Decline ("Maybe some other time")
Were not fight sized yet.
 
pancakes said:
I'm 90% confident someone is a monster in disguise considering zombies have stopped appearing and we haven't seen any reason why, logically something should be attracted by our smell and if we can't find anything its probably a human in disguise.
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Kufufu said:
Were not fight sized yet.
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With 21 for accepting and 3 for declining, it's looking like we'll be going unless there's a drastic change.

There's possibility of them being monsters, but there's also the chance that just Trent is the monster, hence why he's been avoiding us to prevent us from seeing through his disguise (though not Blossom who may be an unaware demigod or just a mortal and easier to trick) and why he was able to avoid us (possibly by smelling us coming or such). I'd hate to leave Blossom alone with him then, especially as there's a chance she's a unaware demigod or a regular mortal herself while also being crippled.


This really makes me wish we knew what type of monster they (or he or her) are, that way we could design-build/grow a plant to counter. For example, if its turns out its a monster that is strong we may want suppression plants, if he's fast or with ranged attacks we may want durability or speed plants, if he has strong armor/skin we may want piercing, and such.
 
Tahu8100 said:
So this doesn't give any reason against Zoë being saved, if we do get Thalia to join the hunters early. Only a reason against Thalia joining which was not what I was wondering.

I mean the line from the prophecy in Titans Curse "and one shall perish by a parent's hand" was a way to kill off Zoë, get Thalia to join the hunt (stopping her from turning 16) and making Percy the next in line to be the child of prophecy. If Thalia joined the hunt early there would be no need for that convoluted scenario and the only real reason to put that line in the prophecy would be because it happened in the book at which point it becomes whether the QM wants to change it or not.
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Thing thing is thing is though Thalia has nothing to do with Zoes Survival rate Zoe died cause she changed to much and her pet thought she was a intruder and poisoned her before her big fight with her dad her Tallia being there doesn't change that shes changed enough to not be considered part of her family and then though it was a good idea to hide her injury. Plus instead of forcing her to join the Hunt why not just make her the child of Prophecy,
 
ChildishChimera said:
Thing thing is thing is though Thalia has nothing to do with Zoes Survival rate Zoe died cause she changed to much and her pet thought she was a intruder and poisoned her before her big fight with her dad her Tallia being there doesn't change that shes changed enough to not be considered part of her family and then though it was a good idea to hide her injury. Plus instead of forcing her to join the Hunt why not just make her the child of Prophecy,
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Because she doesn't want to be and we have no idea what will happen. For Percy, everything ended up fitting and we know how things turn out.

The prophecy goes

A half-blood of the eldest gods
Shall reach sixteen against all odds
And see the world in endless sleep
The hero's soul, cursed blade shall reap
A single choice shall end his days
Olympus to preserve or raze
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Percy was the halfblood son of Poseidon, one of the eldest gods
Dispite all his near-death experiences, Percy made it to sixteen at the climax of the Battle of Manhattan
During the battle, every mortal was put to sleep
Luke was the hero, the cursed blade was Annabeth's knife for Luke's broken promise by the River Styx. Luke was a hero for killing Kronos who was using him as a host.
It was Percy's choice to give Luke the knife, which he used to kill himself and Kronos.
In the end Olympus was preserved because Percy chose to give Luke Annabeth's knife so that Luke could destroy Kronos by cutting his Achilles' heel (which was located under his arm).




Now, whether or not Thalia could even be the Child of Prophecy depends on the QM and how it's decide that prophecy could go. I personally see several ways it could go.

First way is that it's Percy. The prophecy was always about Percy. Thing will twist so that Percy is the one in the prophecy. Other people who are close to fulfilling end up being killed, cursed, frozen in time, or something. For example, Thalia might end up dead after becoming human again, she might never stop being a tree, might simply die instead of becoming a tree, that sort of thing. Things will turn out that way, and each part of the prophecy will be fulfilled exactly like it was in the books.

The Second way is that whoever reaches 16 first will the the one the prophecy is about. It can be anyone. Somehow events will turn out to be fulfilled exactly like it was for Percy, just it's them instead of him. Events will end up happening years early. For example, Kronos could end up possessing Luke several years early instead of after Percy arrives, things mgiht go suddenly great for them, allowing the battle of Manhattan to happen like it did in the book, just several years before Percy turns 16.


Third, the prophecy will fit what happens even if what happens is vastly different than what happened in the book. There could be a totally new and different OC halfblood (or it could still randonly end up being Percy) and the events wont be the same as in the book, but it'll all fit in the prophecy in the end. For example, instead of every mortal in Manhattan being asleep they're all dead (thus an endless sleep), the hero is actually the same halfblood that turned 16 so they will die, or someone else other than Luke will fit the hero whose soul will be reaped (ie, the new OC halfblood or maybe Percy or Annabeth has to choose between saving Olympus at the cost of their own life at Kronos's cursed blade or letting Olympus be destroyed), the hero ends up making the wrong choice and Olympus is actually razed. All are possible and it'll fit the prophecy in the end.

There might be more ways, but those what came to mind for me. It's all up to the QM to decide how flexible the prophecy will be and what could happen.
 
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