What is Fate? (Percy Jackson and the Olympians Quest)

What I'm getting is that we should dual wield shields while keeping tons of seeds on our character at all times.
 
We should focus on our body this year since we focus more on our power last year to balance it out.
Only one year left until a plot from canon start that we can interfere. Lets make it count.
 
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Omake: The Harvest Comedy by Tjakari
The Harvest Comedy
Part Α
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The first sign that something was amiss were the nymphs. The lampads either sank into their mothers' rivers or hurried off into the seclusion of Persephone's Garden. Every which-a-way Hades could see, and he could see it all, his realm was overtaken by a disturbance.

It felt familiar, it felt old, and it felt like a bad memory. "My sister is here", Hades muttered aloud. The sound of his word boomed despite himself, and in the distance he saw the Fields of Asphodel swaying toward and from his palace, as if there was something pulling them from his grasp. This was a contest, and for what reason it was taking place he didn't dare presume.

"Persephone is with you! It's Spring! What do you want with me Demeter?" He called out into the distance, where his sister was no doubt peeling away the edges of his domain looking for a way to his palace.

The nymphs in the garden perked up at the mention of his vacated wife, She was good to them he supposed. That and the constant squabbles on this side of the family could keep even the oldest of the dead entertained for an eternity. She never quits, every year without fail, she pouts, his wife leaves him and he has to take it.

The only thing that was odd was that this was the wrong part of the year. He sometimes lost track from day to day, but surely she had Persephone for at least a few more months? What madness had possessed her to come here now, and with this fury.

It baffled him, truly it did.

Neither of his brothers would have dared to trespass this way. Come into his domain and twist it about like it was a toy, a plaything to be moved out the way. If she had come to lecture him then she'd be duly disappointed.

However, since he'd spoken aloud the intensity only continued to build, and the fields blew away from the obsidian walls of his palace and instead toward the boundary between the Earth and Hades.

The God of the Underworld would have been content to let this go on until his sister had calmed down, until they could talk this out sensibly. Her head was always in the clouds these days, but Demeter had her moments.

"And you used to be so orderly," he said to himself, "Now look at this mess."

The lesser rivers had all petered out to a trickle, the Phlegethon was somehow running cold, and Styx had…stopped??

"That can't be right."

That got his attention, and from there he left his veranda to see the river up close. "Why can't I ever have a peaceful day?"

"Is it so much to ask?" he said, nearing the bank of the river.

"If I'm not happy then you don't get to be either." Came a voice to his side, groggy and irritable.

'Styx? Now that's a sight for sore eyes.'

"Usually I mind my own business, but this is getting old. You two woke me up and now I'm awake," She groaned, sounding half-submerged.

'That's the same point'

"And look at poor Phlegethon," she said lazily gesturing to the now coal-warm river on the other side of the bank, "He's cold! COLD!"

Apparently this bit of manifesting was exhausting for her, because she started yawning whilst stepping back into her waters "Talk to Erinys before I really wake up, and give you both a bath."

"Styx, I ca-"

"Good Night! Hades"

With that threat under his belt, the Lord of the Underworld finally let Demeter through. He wasn't afraid, but he had enough inconveniences to worry about with Styx trying to drown him every time she wakes up.

With a wave of his hand, he let go the shroud that hid his domain from unwanted guests, and that finally quieted Demeter down.

For a moment,

before she stormed at him, carving up the ground like a harvest plow. 'Real subtle.'

It was hardly a second before they were face to face, Lords of the Harvests, eye contact unbroken. 'She's actually furious with me?'

"Welcome to the Underworld my sister, you're early this year." he said trying his hardest to be civil, with his kingdom in disarray.

A beat passed.

The nymphs and household creatures had long since ran for a more secure hiding place than Persephone's hanging gardens.
Nothing new there, Cerberus had gone to his favorite spot before Hades had even noticed the intrusion. This was, to one level or another, pretty much protocol for a family squabble. They happened every 80 years or so. Usually one of them would buckle after Persephone showed up to break them apart. These could get quite tiresome, and by the end up of it, one of them had a surplus of mortals. He really didn't feel in the mood for this, the last century hadn't left him with the kind of spunk he'd need for these.

This was more than evident from his divided attention during the contest. Hades noticed something in his sister's hands that took him back for just a moment. 'It's been awhile since she'd carried one of those around'

The lapse in his expression showed enough weakness for Demeter to launch into her trademark tirades. 'I suppose that wasn't one for the history books....'

"I'm getting too old for this treatment" he said in almost a whisper as she laid into him.

"What right did you have to trespass into my domain!", "I should have never given you that basket of Pears!", "I should have stood my ground in 1816, but noooo-" It went on like that for a longer than it had a right to.

Summoning what was left of his patience, Hades only responded with a question.

"What. Are. You. Talking. About?"

"Why did you send this to attack my child?!" she said while shoving a zombie head in his face, "And the Vyrkolakas?"

"This is how you get an everlasting Spring! Is that what you want Aidoneus, cause so help me-"

The river started getting violent as her voice kept rising. Demeter barely noticed.

"You sent a man-eating beast after my favorite!"

Favorite? He'd never do something like that to Persephone, she knows that. Doesn't she?

It had to be a half-blood she was talking about, or he was going to be more insulted than he ever thought was possible at this point.

"You had a new spawn?" Hades inquired sincerely. "I didn't know."
He truly hadn't paid much attention to Demeter's earthly exploits. If it didn't have to do with Persephone or Cereal, he wouldn't have believed she were involved anyway.
He'd hoped that his response would make her reassess the situation, calm herself, perhaps?

No such luck.

'I'll be here till the summer's over at this rate'


Hades growing annoyance with us because he kept sending zombies to watch over us when we were smol and we keep sending them away/killing them

Not the direction I'm going in, but this is definitely the inspiration.
 
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According to the Riordan Wiki and every online source I could find that mentions Demeter wielding a weapon, she wielded a golden sword (or sickle). Thus, unless someone has some sources that say otherwise, this is canon for the world of Percy Jackson this quest is set in.
w.r.t to the Sword and Sickle at any rate, Demeter uses a sword as well in the canon of this quest it seems.

I am not sure why we decided on a Scythe given the obvious Kronos relation and meta-knowledge.
 
I am not sure why we decided on a Scythe given the obvious Kronos relation and meta-knowledge.

Maybe we chose it for the Kronos relation? *points finger to head*

I'm joking mostly, I wasn't thinking about it back then, it seemed different enough to The scythe that it never crossed my mind. But the symbolism just makes it more appealing, honestly.
Striking fear into powerful creatures isn't a safe strategy, but it's a fulfilling one.
 
Maybe we chose it for the Kronos relation? *points finger to head*

I'm joking mostly, I wasn't thinking about it back then, it seemed different enough to The scythe that it never crossed my mind. But the symbolism just makes it more appealing, honestly.
Striking fear into powerful creatures isn't a safe strategy, but it's a fulfilling one.
A 10 year old child is not what I consider a good base for intimidating powerful creatures.. (Size matters)
 
A 10 year old child is not what I consider a good base for intimidating powerful creatures.. (Size matters)


Granddaddy disagrees.

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A ten year old is the perfect base for intimidating powerful creatures. A blank slate with ill-defined potential is a paranoid god's worst nightmare.
 
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Ok, I appreciate the discussion and I'm glad that you all feel strongly enough to argue this point. However, I would just like to say that the character's viewpoints don't necessarily reflect my own.

My viewpoint:

The warscythe is an unorthodox choice of weapon for a demigod. Thus it should be hard to master but provide unique benefits once you do, such as opponents being unfamiliar with it and tricks. Personally, I think it's an interesting choice that will yield results later. On the other hand, a sword or spear will be easier to get through the intermediate and advanced stages of training.

Chiron's viewpoint:

He recognizes that the weapon can be effective but in general has a distaste for it because of his father, as posited previously in the thread. Thus, he also can't train you.

Justin's viewpoint:

As a pragmatist, and working under the belief that you would have more time before whatever Chiron was having him prepare you for, he recommended a change because he thinks you would see more immediate results.

I hope this clears up any confusion about my perspective.

Edit: Thanks for the Omake. I'll give you exp to spend when I'm not at an airport.
 
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Justin recommend sword or spear since it will show immitted result but never said give up on the war scythe. I say it good to have more skill and trick for the future example hand to hand combat skill would be good to have in the future. We could be a Master of arms. I thing one of the main reason people want to finish school as fast as possible is to be able to have more free time to train and other things.
 
Justin recommend sword or spear since it will show immitted result but never said give up on the war scythe. I say it good to have more skill and trick for the future example hand to hand combat skill would be good to have in the future. We could be a Master of arms.
I'm nowhere near as ambitious. A close quarter weapon and a long ranged one are enough for me.
 
I'm nowhere near as ambitious. A close quarter weapon and a long ranged one are enough for me.
Ditto.
It's probably more worthwhile to work on our magic stamina and carry around useful seeds.
We're basically Kurama so we should play to our strengths on things like this. We don't need to be a weapons specialists, just be good enough with what we have to stay alive.
 
Nah it pays to proficient with multiple weapons as weapons can get broken or taken away and demigod powers take stamina to use to if you gent drained your fucked as there's a reason in the myths hero's learned how to fight with all kinds of different weapons.

And it's kinda weird the weapon Cronus is usually depicted with is a sickle.
 
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Nah it pays to proficient with multiple weapons as weapons can get broken or taken away and demigod powers take stamina to use to if you gent drained your fucked as there's a reason in the myths hero's learned how to fight with all kinds of different weapons.
Weapons of celestial bronze can be broken? I really can't remember. We could be disarmed, but break our weapons? Maybe arrows and bow or the javelin. But even then only the wood part of it. And guess what Sam can do with the shrapnel?
 
I think that if we focus on being a magic specialist we should select simple and easily mastered weapons so we can focus on defending ourselves while spamming magic.
 
Weapons of celestial bronze can be broken? I really can't remember. We could be disarmed, but break our weapons? Maybe arrows and bow or the javelin. But even then only the wood part of it. And guess what Sam can do with the shrapnel?
Yeah celestial bronze can be destroyed the only really thing it has going for it is that it can harm monsters and it can't harm mortal beings so it isn't unbreakable.
Like Imperial gold has some bad consequences for being broken it can cause an explosion powerful enough to create a thirty-foot-deep crater in a mountain.
 
Celestial Bronze is somewhat harder to break than Imperial Gold IIRC.
It's able to be melted by acid so it's not unbreakable and alot of shit like automatons and stuff are made out of it and those get chopped up into pieces quite easily.

because to the Greeks celestial bronze is a metal that's as common as iron to them so they use it in almost everything.
 
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So anyone know Kurama from Yuyuhakusho. In my opinion his a very strong plant user that use little energy. Here a idea for concept Drain since plant naturaly to that and we can use it so we don't need to use do mush energy. Still want to get the Time concept. We can premade some plant in seed form to grow instantly once we trigger it to use even less energy.
 
Nah it pays to proficient with multiple weapons as weapons can get broken or taken away and demigod powers take stamina to use to if you gent drained your fucked as there's a reason in the myths hero's learned how to fight with all kinds of different weapons.
Since no-one seems to remember this whenever they bring up the stamina use of magic as an argument I will remind you that regular weapons also use stamina. Hell, given the few fight scenes we have had so far I can be pretty confident that magic is more stamina efficient than a weapon. Seriously, how much stamina would we have lost fighting that horde at the start of the quest without magic? If I had to make an estimate, we would have been exhausted midway through and then gotten killed. This is of course ignoring that we would likely have been killed before stamina use ended up being a problem, but instead we used magic and then got tired enough that we had trouble staying awake. Which I think is way better than getting killed like we would have if we did not use magic.
 
Since no-one seems to remember this whenever they bring up the stamina use of magic as an argument I will remind you that regular weapons also use stamina. Hell, given the few fight scenes we have had so far I can be pretty confident that magic is more stamina efficient than a weapon. Seriously, how much stamina would we have lost fighting that horde at the start of the quest without magic? If I had to make an estimate, we would have been exhausted midway through and then gotten killed. This is of course ignoring that we would likely have been killed before stamina use ended up being a problem, but instead we used magic and then got tired enough that we had trouble staying awake. Which I think is way better than getting killed like we would have if we did not use magic.
Yes but demigod abilities have been shown to be really energy intensive for the more obvious stuff and when facing beings or creature that can either one make your abilities harder to use or just block them relying on the 100% is a bad idea.
 
Yes but demigod abilities have been shown to be really energy intensive for the more obvious stuff and when facing beings or creature that can either one make your abilities harder to use or just block them relying on the 100% is a bad idea.
Then use that as your argument. Not this stamina garbage that everyone seems to spout all the time. There are a lot of good arguments for why we should diversify our skills, but using the stamina of a skill that consistently shows itself to be more stamina efficient than a more mundane alternative is not the way.

Like, your argument that we might go up against someone that will be able to neutralize our powers either through their own magic or control over the terrain or simply just a well planned ambush is good. Another argument for why we should diversify our skills is that we can use our new skills in conjunction with our more core skills, an example of this would be the biology skill making the plant modification skill better. We could also use our archery skills to make the trees use bows and arrows made of their own material better than if we just winged a ranged weapon from them. Spear skills could allow our sharp roots to do more advanced stuff than just blindly trying to impale our opponents. Another argument for why we should learn other weapons is that we will be able to get other people to make special weapons whose effect we could not replicate with our magic. Like, despite how awesome celestial bronze is I don't think I have seen a single person argue for a weapon because it could be made of celestial bronze. It would also have the benefit that we would not have to spend time learning a concept solely to replicate the effect of celestial bronze against monsters.

Sorry for ranting at you, but I am very tired of people using arguments that are of surface level thought at best.

Edit: Also wanting to do something because you like the idea is also valid even if it is not a very convincing argument, just don't try to cover that motivation up with poorly thought out arguments.
 
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