Just to be clear I love Jack. I love the entire ME2 crew with the exception of Samara and Tali.

The fact Femshep cant romance my faves(Miranda and Jack) was about my only criticism of the game. Although it is cute that Jack acknowledges your interest.
 
Just to be clear I love Jack. I love the entire ME2 crew with the exception of Samara and Tali.
Even the starting human male, who is so bland I don't even remember his name?

Jacob? Something like that.

He was less interesting than even Kaiden, which is saying something.
 
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Yeah it's Jacob and he is super dull. Kaidan at least gets better in ME3.

And I've said it before but comparisons between Kaidan and Carth from KOTOR are unfair. Same voice or no Carth was a way better compamion.
 
Say what you will about Kaiden, but at least I haven't ever forgotten he exists.

I was talking to a friend about ME2 (a few months after it came out) and told him I like everyone on the squad. He asked if that included Jacob, it took a few seconds for me to remember him at all. To this day, I think he's the worst character in any bioware game, every other one at least made me feel something besides Apathy.

And as for my 'controversial' opinion. ME games (and most Bioware games) are best when they're dealing with small stories. To the point where I didn't care too much about the Reapers, even at the end. I chose my ending, not based off of what would happen to the galaxy, but because what I thought was a better option for my squad. I wasn't going to die for this, Miranda told me not to.
 
One of the other great things about DA2 is how Seinfeldian the plot is. There's no larger overarching conspiracy, singular threat or magical doomsday plot or whatever. It's just a whole bunch of individuals and factions with their own objectives and agendas crashing into eachother by happenstance and the main conflicts unfolding as an escalating chain of consequences and causality that Hawke himself is implicit is exacerbating.

It wasn't quite done right and stumbled the landing pretty badly, and I'm sure it frustrates people who think the plot of a story should have a point or in universe plan to it for whatever reason, but it feels way more natural than most game plots and sure as hell beats Biowares, bumbling attempts to construct a traditional narrative.

Also, the vast, vast majority of all traumatized Kung Fu magical waif characters are fucking terrible. Glory from Shadowrun Dragonfall is one of the chosen few who is not.
 
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One of the other great things about DA2 is how Seinfeldian the plot is. There's no larger overarching conspiracy or magical plot or whatever. It's just a whole bunch of individuals with their own objectives and agendas crashing into eachother by happenstance and the main conflicts unfolding as an escalating chain of that Hawke consequences and causality that Hawke himself is implicit is causing..

It wasn't quite done right and stumbled the landing, and I'm sure it frustrates people who think the plot of a story should have a point or in universe plan to it for whatever reason, but it feels way more natural than most game plots and sure as hell beats Biowares, bumbling attempts to construct a traditional narrative.

Also, the vast, vast majority of all traumatized Kung Fu magical waif characters are fucking terrible. Glory from Shadowrun Dragonfall is one of the chosen few who is not.

Can you give some other examples of these kung fu waifs? I have no idea what you mean.
 
Can you give some other examples of these kung fu waifs? I have no idea what you mean.

River Tam and the shitload of forebears, Jack from Mass Effect 2 herself among them.

Explain why? I like her a lot too but I want to hear your thoughts.

The big thing is how cognizant she is. Shes not really catatonic or some irrational knot of defence mechanisms, but is selfaware of her own issues and isn't infantilized. And you help her through them by helping her actually work through them, not through hugs or the power of your dick.
 
I can't see Jack as a waif.

To me that would imply innocence or vulnerability (at least, seemingly) while Jack is a hard bitch, so to speak.

Her character is certainly very different archetype-wise to, say, River Tam.
 
Am I really the only one who never played anything by Bioware, and was never interested in any of their games in the first place? Hell, even the only older game I've played that is related to them is Neverwinter Nights 2, and even that's not actually by them.
 
It has been ten years since Metal Gear Solid 4 came out and time heals all wounds.

The Good:
Old Snake and his story
Soundtrack
Act 3's noir tailing section
Act 4
The final boss fight

I also like Laughing Octopus and Screaming Mantis for reasons that dont need to be elaborated upon. But that does not count under Good because the B&B Corps are Top 3 Worst Things About MGS4 along with Patriots Reveal amd True Ending. Looking at all the drama over Quiet imagine reactions if MGS4 came out today with its boss lineup of the personalityless T&A Corps. I wouldnt even care so much about the fanservice if they had actual characters. But they dont.
 
River Tam and the shitload of forebears, Jack from Mass Effect 2 herself among them.



The big thing is how cognizant she is. Shes not really catatonic or some irrational knot of defence mechanisms, but is selfaware of her own issues and isn't infantilized. And you help her through them by helping her actually work through them, not through hugs or the power of your dick.
You don't help Jack with the power of your hugs and/or dick either. Jack isn't a kung fu waif, she's a dogfight rescue.
 
After Neverwinter Nights 2, Knights of the Old Republic 2, Alpha Protocol, and Fallout New Vegas, the fact that Obsidian's releases are all ridiculously buggy and borderline unplayable without plenty of patches is probably a sign that it's the studio at some degree of fault, not the publishers, if only because the studio keeps taking on these contracts.
 
Am I really the only one who never played anything by Bioware, and was never interested in any of their games in the first place? Hell, even the only older game I've played that is related to them is Neverwinter Nights 2, and even that's not actually by them.
You are indeed the only person on the entire planet, pole to pole, to have never played a Bioware game.
 
There's this idea, not very prevalent but it lingers here and there, that Caesar's Legion should have been greyer. That it should not have been the blackest of faction choices. It should have been more Roman, and less of Edward Sallow's wankfest bastardisation of what Rome was.

To make the Legion anything more than ISIS but Roman is to miss the entire point of the Legion. There is no good in the Legion. Even if Obsidian had the time to make the other side of the river, expanding the game to Arizona, it still would have been the inhumane cult it is. Edward Sallow could have made anyone of the cities he's conquered the "Rome" he always wanted, but he didn't. The Legion is toxic masculinity, fundamentalism and everything negative about mankind put into a horde of barbarians in football gear with machetes.

The Legion is evil, anyone who wishes they were greyer misses the point.
 
There's this idea, not very prevalent but it lingers here and there, that Caesar's Legion should have been greyer. That it should not have been the blackest of faction choices. It should have been more Roman, and less of Edward Sallow's wankfest bastardisation of what Rome was.

To make the Legion anything more than ISIS but Roman is to miss the entire point of the Legion. There is no good in the Legion. Even if Obsidian had the time to make the other side of the river, expanding the game to Arizona, it still would have been the inhumane cult it is. Edward Sallow could have made anyone of the cities he's conquered the "Rome" he always wanted, but he didn't. The Legion is toxic masculinity, fundamentalism and everything negative about mankind put into a horde of barbarians in football gear with machetes.

The Legion is evil, anyone who wishes they were greyer misses the point.
Umm I think that's what they are complaining about. Roman imagery is cool, and a guy founding a Neo Roma could have been something neat to play with, but instead they made it what you said it is.
 
Sawyer's commenary + in game dialogue makes the Legion the rep for Security in the eternal political struggle of Security vs Freedom.
 
controversial gaming opinions I have

1. Perfect Balance is overrated. I prefer seeing one player or team try to fight from a wildly different position to the enemy team
 
Umm I think that's what they are complaining about. Roman imagery is cool, and a guy founding a Neo Roma could have been something neat to play with, but instead they made it what you said it is.

Not every neo-Roman aspect in fiction has to be the good ol' empire. It's nice to see a setting that takes the worst of Rome's aspects (and yes, slavery and murdering is what the Legion was good at) and brings it out full force.

Also random fun fact: in the JSawyer mod for NV, power armor doesn't require power armor training at all!
 
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The problem with Neo-Roman imagery is that Neo-Roman imagery when invoked by people far flung from the time of the romans is almost always fascist imagery. Because the things that ideologues like about Rome isn't the Republicanism, or the sexual fluidity, or the high art and culture, or the ethnic ambiguity and cosmopolitanism. It's the militarism, masculinity, and "Great civilization brought down by the barbarians" narrative.

Which is the entire, screamingly obviously the point of the Legion. That Caesar is a fascist pillaging history to cobble together a ideology that uses that history to construct a veneer of legitimacy.

Also random fun fact: in the JSawyer mod for NV, power armor doesn't require power armor training at all!

Uh, is that supposed to be good? That's kinda dumb.
 
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