Victoria Falls Worldbuilding Thread

...It should be pointed out that Argentina has about 30% of the land area of the United States, and in 1820 (roughly the time of its gaining independence) a population of under six hundred thousand, roughly on the same level, not of the United States, but of Virginia, specifically.

So however blessed that specific geographic region is, we should make sure our expectations are tempered by the physical dimensions and demographics involved. Even in 1900, Argentina had less than five million inhabitants. It is much simpler to support an economy of five million on a handful of export commodities than to generate a growing and thriving industrial community of tens of millions.
 
Argentina, greatly enjoyed the commodity boom. The problem this created was a focus on improving on what they were the best in, producing food and ranching. This left domestic industry woefully underdeveloped. And when it became necessary to actually have industry and not turn into a raw material exporting country Argentina experienced of such instability and huge government spending that the government surplus vanished and military intervention in civil affairs became the norm. Argentina biggest problem has always been itself. There is joke down here that is quite appropriate: God gave Argentina, amazing geography, a great amount of natural resources and then he gave Argentina the argentines.
 
All right, y'all have convinced me that Venezuela is vital to non-Russosphere powers maintaining energy independence and that oil extraction requires a fairly stable and viable state.

And, therefore, that it would have been a priority kill target, and fairly easy to render nonviable.

So, like he could have puppeted it, but I kinda hope he just devastated it so they are pissed at Russia, and pulling themselves together now and looking for ways to strike back.

Like, more I think about it, more patron Europe is boring. Patron Venezuela! Have the president of the greater commonwealth/US talk about America's long-standing 'special relationship' with Venezuela. Have the old rivalries be the equivalent of kids learning about the revolutionary war in the current US.
 
So, like he could have puppeted it, but I kinda hope he just devastated it so they are pissed at Russia, and pulling themselves together now and looking for ways to strike back.

I personally think there is a Venn diagram of nations that really really hate Russia, nations that have the capacity to actually do something about Russia, and nations that have both hatred and capacity.

Venezuela is probably in Set A. Striking back at a seriously unpleasant superpower is hard and dangerous, which is why most of Central and South America hasn't tried to get revenge on America for our many offenses.
 
I personally think there is a Venn diagram of nations that really really hate Russia, nations that have the capacity to actually do something about Russia, and nations that have both hatred and capacity.

Venezuela is probably in Set A. Striking back at a seriously unpleasant superpower is hard and dangerous, which is why most of Central and South America hasn't tried to get revenge on America for our many offenses.

GIving funding to someone Russia hates and is willing to fight proxies on your behalf is a lot safer and easier than directly striking back. Why die yourself, when you can have an American do it for you?
 
Piotr face on I-day:drevil:
it's clear that Piotr hasn't watched V for Vendetta (liberty is an idea and ideas are bulletproof:evil:)

Alex may kill the government but he can't kill the national love of freedom and hate of tyranny and he knows this
 
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GIving funding to someone Russia hates and is willing to fight proxies on your behalf is a lot safer and easier than directly striking back. Why die yourself, when you can have an American do it for you?

It is an excellent idea, but Third World nations need to be very careful about everything they do. If your American proxies humiliate the Tsar's American proxies, Alexander might decide to make an example out of you.

Piotr face on I-day:drevil:
it's clear that Piotr hasn't watched V for Vendetta (America is an idea and ideas are bulletproof:evil:)

Alex may kill the government but he can't kill the national love of freedom and hate of tyranny

I moved the omake to the main thread, where it belongs.

America is an idea, and ideas are bulletproof. However, America is also in ruins, with crippled infrastructure and a great many hungry, illiterate people. Piotr is more than willing to let the Americans hate Russia because they are a very great distance away and have no feasible method of projecting power across the Atlantic or Pacific.

In terms of pure realpolitik, America should be at the bottom of Russia's priorities list. The Tsar is just irrational on the subject of the United States.
 
I moved the omake to the main thread, where it belongs.

America is an idea, and ideas are bulletproof. However, America is also in ruins, with crippled infrastructure and a great many hungry, illiterate people. Piotr is more than willing to let the Americans hate Russia because they are a very great distance away and have no feasible method of projecting power across the Atlantic or Pacific.

In terms of pure realpolitik, America should be at the bottom of Russia's priorities list. The Tsar is just irrational on the subject of the United States.

That is my take. American can't destroy the Russian empire by invading. But, ironically, they might be able to destroy is because Alexander can't let them go, despite the expense. And there is a beautiful irony as a hateful old man seeing all he has crumble because he can't let go of his hatred of his most direct victims.
 
Suggestions for South America: Venezuela

Venezuela was in many ways a failed state before the Collapse. Every opponent of socialism held Venezuela up as an example of what a socialist economy would do to a country, and there is no denying that the Venezuelan experiment was a resounding failure. Historians still debate whether Venezuela could have survived and recovered if not for the Collapse, but when the world economy fell apart, Venezuela crumbled with it.

Unlike Chile and Argentina, Venezuela could not feed itself. Its only major exports were oil and refugees, and as more and more people streamed out of the country the government fought to increase oil production. With the collapse of America and increasing Russian influence in the Middle East, the world was desperate for oil, and foreign experts rushed to help Venezuela tap into their vast reserves of petroleum.

Though South America was not generally a priority for the Tsar of all the Russias, Alexander had no intention of allowing a major oil producer to operate outside of his control. Venezuela was already on the verge of absolute collapse, and it was the simplest matter in the world for the Tsar to give them a push.

"Terrorists" attacked oil wells, destroying valuable equipment and killing workers. In the wake of these attacks, the Russian ambassador reached out to the Venezuelan government, offering assistance and alliance. The President responded by arresting the ambassador and placing him on trial for espionage and acts of war against the Venezuelan people. Legal scholars may still debate whether it it is ever acceptable to try an accredited diplomat, but the consequences of the President's action are less debatable.

Russian's Atlantic Fleet sailed to the Venezuelan coast and proceeded to methodically destroy every government building and military base in Venezuela. For three weeks, relentless artillery bombardment and air strikes drove the Venezuelan people underground and shattered any hope of organized resistance. When the smoke finally cleared, Russian Naval Infantry went ashore to dismantle Venezuela's oil production facilities. Only a handful of disorganized guerrilla forces emerged to oppose them, and the Russians responded to every attack with overwhelming firepower. By the Tsar's own order, collateral damage was not a concern.

The Russian Ambassador was dead when Spetsnaz commandos finally stormed the Miraflores Palace. In response, the Russians executed every prisoner in their custody, killing clerks and privates alongside ministers and generals. As Venezuela disintegrated into chaos and their neighbors were overwhelmed by refugees, the Tsar publicly declared that this would be the fate of any nation that dared to harm a diplomat of the Russian Empire.

Before they left, though, there would be one final lesson. "Terrorists" attacked the Guri Dam, unleashing countless millions of gallons of water. The flood swallowed nearby towns and refugee columns, creating a humanitarian crisis that even the pre-Collapse world would have struggled to manage. No one has ever made an accurate accounting of the number of lives lost directly as a result of the dam's destruction, much less the many more who perished when their crops were destroyed by raging waters.

To this day, Venezuela remains a broken nation, a country of dirt farmers whose national government is little more than a bad joke. Their vast oil reserves remain in the ground, and any suggestion that they could begin drilling is greeted with absolute horror. Venezuela hates Russia, as so many do, but they fear more than they hate.
 
I didn't realize fasquardon was from the Falklands until recently myself

Given how controversial this part of my identity is to some people (not only in Argentina), it isn't something I like to advertise.

To be fair, if you have a trawler fleet during the Collapse, you're going to be operating it aggressively because you need the food. Where you go to do that will depend on geopolitics.

I think this really depends on exactly what "the collapse" was?

It is something that enabled Russia's rise and Victoria to chestburst out of America. So probably pretty bad. But was it something that ended capitalism-as-we-know-it, something that paused it or something through which capitalism-as-we-know-it could function?

From the details of the world established so far, it is clear that some form of capitalism is dominant in the world of 2070. But is it the same sub-type of capitalism that has enabled the strip-mining of Somalia's oceans in the here-and-now? And if it is the same sub-type of capitalism as exists in the here-and-now, was there an interregnum?

There was a famous docu-drama about nuclear war made in the UK called "Threads", it is very grim and hard to watch. I only learned recently is where the name came from - it is named after the complex web of connections that make up society. You could sever millions of these connections and never notice. Think they didn't matter. But if you severed enough you'd pass a tipping point and the whole thing would unravel. The makers thought that nuclear war would be something that made British society unravel in an extremely profound way.

The more we discuss on the worldbuilding thread, the more threads I realize would be broken... The more I think that "the collapse" would be something that completely overwhelmed societies ability to respond to the cascading failures. At least for a while. Before some states managed to restore organizational cohesion.

If I am right, who would trust the currencies they were paid in to work at sea? Who could leave their families behind to face the uncertainty without them? Who would be able to arrange vital parts and fuel for the ships, how many companies were able to convince their ship captains that the company would still exist when they next made landfall? With the disappearance of the American-dictated order on the seas, who could trust that they could find safe ports? Surely some people, but enough people to keep a whole national industrial trawler industry working?

Here's the thing - you're comparing Argentina to its continental counterparts, and by those standards, it's done reasonably well for itself. But Argentina shouldn't be compared to places like Peru and Venezuela - it's geography is amazing, it's strategic positioning first-rate, it's subject to practically all the factors that turned the USA into the most successful nation on earth, and by all rights, it should've played just as important a role in world affairs as countries like France and India, not quite a Superpower but a force to be reckoned with in their own right. It should've established an awful, abusive relationship with the Falklands in the same way powerful nations do with their smaller, weaker neighbors, a la England and Ireland, Japan and Korea, or the US and Mexico.

I don't agree with your assessment of Argentine geography. But what you say later about this being an under-developed field is quite right, and my ideas could easily be wrong.

Though South America was not generally a priority for the Tsar of all the Russias, Alexander had no intention of allowing a major oil producer to operate outside of his control. Venezuela was already on the verge of absolute collapse, and it was the simplest matter in the world for the Tsar to give them a push.

I reeeeally don't think Alexander would have the need to push Venezuela over the edge. Given how precarious Venezuela is already, I think the oil industry would implode just from having so many threads severed all at once.

Also, having Russia do to much and be the only force creating bad outcomes in the world seems to me to be indulging in an unhealthy tendency. Because things in the real world are never that simple and while this is supposed to be fun fiction, fiction influences the way we look at the world without us really realizing all the time.

Maybe instead of Russia pushing Venezuela over the edge, it is Brazil (whose here-and-now government hates Venezuela with truly stunning intensity). And because the myth of Russia destroying Brazil is so widespread, the neo-Venezuelan state is Russia's most passionate ally in the Americas since they credit Russia with disrupting Bazil and giving Venezuela the time it needed to recover (as well as subsidies to build the modern wind and solar based Venezuelan power grid)?

They could make interesting opponents for the later parts of the quest, a sort of pro-Russian mirror of the Commonwealth.

fasquardon
 
Suggestions for South America: Venezuela
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You know, I actually like this, despite how horrific it is. Because this can be the wake up call that actually had the world start shifting out of being focused on their own internal problems, and look outside their nation to find out what the hell is going on out there and what did Russia just do, oh FUCK. Because having a secure source of oil that wasn't Russian-aligned would have been a serious foreign relations goal of the world just because of how disruptive they tended to be. But it wasn't an emergency.

Then Russia slaughters the only source that stays outside of their control, and does so in such a horrific fashion it grabs the attention of people who otherwise were too busy putting out fires in their nation. And got them thinking... If that's what they do to someone who tries to stand against them... What might they do to someone in their way? And thus look at all those fires that keep flaring up whenever it looks like they might come under control and thus be able to do something at all about Russia... and wonder...

In short: It's the scream that told the world just what it meant to stand in Russia's way, and to not get on board the Environmentalist train. It's also the scream that ended any hope of Russian Global Hegemony. Which just calls back to how, time and time again, Tsar Alexander achieves his short term goals. He even tends to achieve his mid term goals. But he keeps doing so by inverting any success he might have achieved towards his long term goals.
 
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You know, I actually like this, despite how horrific it is. Because this can be the wake up call that actually had the world start shifting out of being focused on their own internal problems, and look outside their nation to find out what the hell is going on out there and what did Russia just do, oh FUCK. Because having a secure source of oil that wasn't Russian-aligned would have been a serious foreign relations goal of the world just because of how disruptive they tended to be. But it wasn't an emergency.

Then Russia slaughters the only source that stays outside of their control, and does so in such a horrific fashion it grabs the attention of people who otherwise were too busy putting out fires in their nation. And got them thinking... If that's what they do to someone who tries to stand against them... What might they do to someone in their way? And thus look at all those fires that keep flaring up whenever it looks like they might come under control and thus be able to do something at all about Russia... and wonder...

In short: It's the scream that told the world just what it meant to stand in Russia's way, and to not get on board the Environmentalist train. It's also the scream that ended any hope of Russian Global Hegemony. Which just calls back to how, time and time again, Tsar Alexander achieves his short term goals. He even tends to achieve his mid term goals. But he keeps doing so by inverting any success he might have achieved towards his long term goals.

I'm no expert on the oil industry, but from what I do know, the loss of US technology, expertise and finance would have enormous disruptive effects on world oil production - even in Russia - that seem likely to lead to a great contraction in output. So... How is that avoided to the degree that Venezuelan output is worth Russia launching an attack on a target half-way across the planet?

fasquardon
 
I'm no expert on the oil industry, but from what I do know, the loss of US technology, expertise and finance would have enormous disruptive effects on world oil production - even in Russia - that seem likely to lead to a great contraction in output. So... How is that avoided to the degree that Venezuelan output is worth Russia launching an attack on a target half-way across the planet?

fasquardon
From the looks of it, basically everyone who doesn't have enough local oil production jumping on Venezuela and helping in an effort to ensure that they get just enough to keep everything working as Alex goes on a 'tour' through the Middle East. Europe, China, Australasia, the rest of South America...

America's oil is gone. Russia's oil comes with enough problems that you want to go elsewhere if you can and it's unlikely to be cheaper than what you get even after helping keep the oil flowing from the alternate source. The Middle East is either burning, dying, tearing themselves to shreds for food and water or helping Russia get a monopoly on global oil. China is probably grabbing every bit of oil it can get because it's internal production isn't anywhere near enough. Canada's production died along with America's. Mexico is a very similar story. Nigeria and Angola are... It's yet to be determined if those two nations are still producing or if they were some of the parts of Africa that collapsed during the Collapse and aftermath. Norway likely grabbed every bit of the UK's production it could get a hold of, and the unified production capacity is the only thing keeping Europe partially working. India would be similar to China in that it's desperately keeping it's internal production for itself and looking for more. Though has the advantage there of being someone the Tsar wants as a friend so it can meet it's needs with Tsarist-aligned oil.

And that's basically all the nations with more than a billion barrels produced a year. Toss in Indonesia, Malaysia, Columbia and Argentina and you're apparently under 750 million barrels a year. Which is when the amount starts dropping real fast for each different nation. We already know that Indonesia is a mess of revolts even in the 'modern' day so that disrupts the oil production there. We know that Indonesia swallowed up Malaysian Borneo during the Collapse and the aftermath, so Malaysia's production is likely shot, even before the independence movement starts sabotaging everything. Columbia and Argentina...

It really depends on how their situation turns out as to what happens there, but considering that they don't meet Venezuela's production together? Less likely to be the focus on emergency expanded oil production for foreign needs. They probably found Alex's 'Message' in Venezuela very informative about any ideas revolving around oil, and I wouldn't be surprised to find that they were part of the reason Alex was quite so vigorous in dealing with Venezuela.
 
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If I am right, who would trust the currencies they were paid in to work at sea? Who could leave their families behind to face the uncertainty without them? Who would be able to arrange vital parts and fuel for the ships, how many companies were able to convince their ship captains that the company would still exist when they next made landfall? With the disappearance of the American-dictated order on the seas, who could trust that they could find safe ports? Surely some people, but enough people to keep a whole national industrial trawler industry working?
A fair point.

The comment about ports is especially interesting and relevant. We often think of piracy on the high seas as the real threat to shipping, but in a world where the global financial system has broke down, where national populations are in serious danger of straight-up starving, and where the biggest, most aggressively muscular guarantor of global capitalism is in the process of going SPLAT...

One real possibility is that civilian ships and their cargoes will be seized in port by someone other than the nominal owner. Be that someone a national government who says "oh hey, a Foreignese fishing trawler, we could use that to feed thousands of our people" or a warlord who says "oh hey, fifty thousand tons of consumer goods, if I can get someone to unload this thing I'll have a LOT of loot to distribute to my followers." We're accustomed to shit like this not happening, except during wartime, and then only happening through the predictable actions of warring powers preying on the shipping of specific enemies.

But a general breakdown in global order could do a lot to provoke a breakdown in this kind of norm (respecting the ownership rights of someone who lives on the other side of the world, and who may be a corporation that nominally 'exists' in a collapsing country itself). And it wouldn't take many such breakdowns before people got very fucking careful about what nations they sent their ships to, for fear that the ships wouldn't come back.

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On the other hand, some nations probably collapsed harder than others, and nations that didn't entirely break down probably took a wide, very diverse variety of paths to in the worst years. Some nations may have been keeping a trawler fleet running; others, no.

So there are a lot of possibilities here.

I reeeeally don't think Alexander would have the need to push Venezuela over the edge. Given how precarious Venezuela is already, I think the oil industry would implode just from having so many threads severed all at once.

Also, having Russia do to much and be the only force creating bad outcomes in the world seems to me to be indulging in an unhealthy tendency. Because things in the real world are never that simple and while this is supposed to be fun fiction, fiction influences the way we look at the world without us really realizing all the time.

Maybe instead of Russia pushing Venezuela over the edge, it is Brazil (whose here-and-now government hates Venezuela with truly stunning intensity). And because the myth of Russia destroying Brazil is so widespread, the neo-Venezuelan state is Russia's most passionate ally in the Americas since they credit Russia with disrupting Bazil and giving Venezuela the time it needed to recover (as well as subsidies to build the modern wind and solar based Venezuelan power grid)?

They could make interesting opponents for the later parts of the quest, a sort of pro-Russian mirror of the Commonwealth.
I think that does provide more potential for interesting things.
 
I don't think sourcing oil from countries that are distant from Russia is that hard, I mean Argentina has UAE level of deposits of shale oil just sitting around waiting for investment, the north sea is still full of oil. Also Nigeria (Maybe im missing some sort of russian influence in one of these regions).
 
The big trick here is that Alexander IV has, as part of his overall global strategy, "control the global oil market." He does this for two reasons, especially in the immediate aftermath of the Collapse. One is because it gives Russia more power, and more power to weaken rivals by selectively choking their access to oil. The other is that it gives him the means to gradually ramp down global oil consumption and increase oil prices to incentivize the transition to green technology, because for all Alexander's faults he is a millennial evil emperor and gives a fuck about global warming.

So wherever any nation tries to scale up oil production beyond a certain threshold, expect the Russians to either try to muscle in on the deal, or sabotage the deal.
 
There's also the fact that as Alex is taking control of the global oil market, the Collapse is either still happening, or the immediate aftermath is. Which all means that people don't have time to wait for the oil producers to build more oil rigs or pumps, they need what is being produced right now or that can come from places that start drilling this very day.

So Argentina's massive shale oil reserve only matters if they've got a lot of pumps extracting it now or a lot in-country ready to expand production. Alex's interest in control over oil makes it worse because if you try to import existing oil extraction equipment, it'll be sabotaged to hell and back by the time it's supposed to arrive. And that's if it ever arrives in the first place, so they can't even depend on a bunch of pumps escaping the fall of the USA and Canada to expand production because they won't get them one way or another.

We basically have to look at modern production numbers and take those as the production numbers plus or minus say, ten percent to account for degrading parts due to lack of the ability to maintain them, or a bunch of oil extraction equipment was arriving when the real nasty part of the Collapse hit.

Then we need to count the casualties. Removing the Middle East axes at least half of everyone producing over a billion barrels a year as I said earlier. And that's after you factor in that the Tsar's allies wouldn't have lost much, and what they did is probably replaced by the oil production of their clients in the region. Despite said clients likely losing a lot thanks to the conflict in the region.

America dying takes out a lot of the remaining production and leaves Russia as the clear leader by far. China and India both have a lot, but also large populations, industry and infrastructure so need all that and more for themselves. Europe is taking every barrel Norway can produce, and what production Norway saved from Britain's collapse.

This basically leaves us with only a handful of nations with noticeable production left, as well as a world desperate for more oil to import with many of them either being unable or unwilling to important from Russia's Cabal. Or in some left of military conflict with them so definitely not getting it from them.

Nigeria and Angola as well as a lot of Africa gain a return of the internal conflicts and border wars that Africa is finally climbing it's way out of. But even with their production lowered, that just means those two nations are the focus of Africa for more than minimal oil supplies so those two places are tapped out for elsewhere in the world.

Which leaves South-East Asia, which we know still has some pretty severe internal conflicts and had countries collapse so that's production dropping there... And South America.

Brazil produces a lot, but they're using a fair bit themselves and we seem to have agreed that they ate internal conflict hard, if not to the point of collapse. That there removes them as a secure and stable source for oil exports. And then there was Venezuela. Which basically produces as much as all the rest of South America not covered yet does together.

If you wanted a single source of oil exports to ensure you don't have a cripplingly low access to oil outside of Russia's club which are definitely using access to oil for everything they can, then Venezuela looks very good. And you might not even have to fight everyone else off to get it to because it produces just enough for everyone to have some.

Which means you don't need to pay as much securing those oil exports as you would if it was scattered across a dozen nations in small quantities from each. Meaning you can use those resources and people at home solving the internal problems that everyone except Russia has.

Only, a single source also means single point of failure if Russia decides to do something about this most notable nation outside it's monopolistic gang of oil exporters... And Russia has very vigorously shown that it doesn't really care about the negative consequences to nations other than itself and maybe it's allies that happen due to Russia's actions...
 
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I reeeeally don't think Alexander would have the need to push Venezuela over the edge. Given how precarious Venezuela is already, I think the oil industry would implode just from having so many threads severed all at once.

The Venezuelan oil industry did implode. Then foreigners came in to help Venezuela fix it, Russia used terrorists proxies to remind Venezuela to join the right team, and the Venezuelan government decided to arrest the Russian ambassador.

I already had Brazil and Bolivia self-destruct with no foreign assistance, and I believe that every continent needs at least one example of a country that tried to stand up to Russia and learned that you don't fight the Bear.

Also, having Russia do to much and be the only force creating bad outcomes in the world seems to me to be indulging in an unhealthy tendency. Because things in the real world are never that simple and while this is supposed to be fun fiction, fiction influences the way we look at the world without us really realizing all the time.

Maybe instead of Russia pushing Venezuela over the edge, it is Brazil (whose here-and-now government hates Venezuela with truly stunning intensity). And because the myth of Russia destroying Brazil is so widespread, the neo-Venezuelan state is Russia's most passionate ally in the Americas since they credit Russia with disrupting Bazil and giving Venezuela the time it needed to recover (as well as subsidies to build the modern wind and solar based Venezuelan power grid)?

They could make interesting opponents for the later parts of the quest, a sort of pro-Russian mirror of the Commonwealth.

fasquardon

I'm pretty sure I avoided that "Russia is the source of all evil" theme with Brazil, where the government blames Russia for something they didn't have any part in. I also avoided Russian involvement in Bolivia. One out of three isn't so bad.

There would be nothing wrong with Brazil pushing Venezuela over the edge, but it would be more difficult for them to do so if they were also fighting a massive civil war within their own country. I could see it happening, though, and I'm not completely wedded to my own plan. I do think my approach is better, but I might be just a little biased.

If Brazil is anti-Russian and Venezuela is the local Russian ally, Venezuela will not be a threat or an opponent. Venezuela will be a speed bump.

You know, I actually like this, despite how horrific it is. Because this can be the wake up call that actually had the world start shifting out of being focused on their own internal problems, and look outside their nation to find out what the hell is going on out there and what did Russia just do, oh FUCK. Because having a secure source of oil that wasn't Russian-aligned would have been a serious foreign relations goal of the world just because of how disruptive they tended to be. But it wasn't an emergency.

Then Russia slaughters the only source that stays outside of their control, and does so in such a horrific fashion it grabs the attention of people who otherwise were too busy putting out fires in their nation. And got them thinking... If that's what they do to someone who tries to stand against them... What might they do to someone in their way? And thus look at all those fires that keep flaring up whenever it looks like they might come under control and thus be able to do something at all about Russia... and wonder...

In short: It's the scream that told the world just what it meant to stand in Russia's way, and to not get on board the Environmentalist train. It's also the scream that ended any hope of Russian Global Hegemony. Which just calls back to how, time and time again, Tsar Alexander achieves his short term goals. He even tends to achieve his mid term goals. But he keeps doing so by inverting any success he might have achieved towards his long term goals.

It is pretty horrible. I like the idea of Venezuela serving as an example, as the Russian Empire basically tells the rest of the world that they can do what they want, and anyone dumb enough to insult them will be broken as a nation. And this works, at least for a while, but when the rest of the world starts recovering from the Collapse, they don't forget Russia's lesson.

In fairness, Tsar Alexander has accomplished a lot of his long-term goals. It's just that he doesn't know when to fold 'em; if he wanted to listen to his daughter, he could probably walk away with his Empire and start the long, difficult business of consolidation, rather than continuing to needlessly antagonize the Europeans.

Discusses oil production and how Russia would secure control of the global market.

I think that Russia's control of the global oil market isn't about 100%; if you have seventy or eighty percent of a nation's oil imports, they need to be very careful about giving offense. If the Tsar was inclined to listen to his diplomats, he could very politely encourage the remaining independent oil producers to divide their exports among several buyers. If they handled it that way, countries might get ten or twenty percent of their oil from sources that weren't controlled by Russia.

That would provide an enormous incentive for going green, since Russia could cut off your oil imports whenever they felt like it.
 
Given how controversial this part of my identity is to some people (not only in Argentina), it isn't something I like to advertise.
Huh, really? I don't mean to pry if you don't want to talk about it, but who else would give you shit over being from the Falklands?
I don't agree with your assessment of Argentine geography. But what you say later about this being an under-developed field is quite right, and my ideas could easily be wrong.
Right, lemme try and talk about why Argentina's geography is so good. First and above all else, there is the Rio de la Plata, South America's second-largest river, and answer to the Mississipi. For all that the Amazon is completely useless to Brazil (Argentina's only meaningful regional rival), the la Plata is nearly ideal, one of the largest estuaries in the world and a massive commercial hub. It's three tributaries are all navigable and snake throughout the country's northern reaches, making transportation trivial. It directly overlays the Pampas region (the world's fourth-largest continuous chunk of arable, temperate-zone agricultural land). The region is far enough from the equator to see actual winters, unlike the rest of the continent, which is crucial for agriculture and public health. Buenos Aires, Argentina's capital, sits at the mouth of the Rio de la Plata, which provides the city enormous economic, cultural, and political influence - he who controls "the Queen of Silver" controls not only Argentina but now has significant sway over Uraguay and southern Brazil, as their rivers are just branches of the la Plata. Especially in the case of Brazil, with its god-awful geography, it's far cheaper to use the river to transport their goods - agricultural and mineral - down the river into the sea than trying to trek overland, despite the fact that this puts the beating heart of Brazil's economy through Argentina's capital.

Then there's the Andes, which besides offering perfect geographical protection from the west, also serves as a font for many recourses. Most relevant of them holding functionally all the world's Lithium, a crucial component needed to make batteries. Argentina and Bolivia have largely failed to properly exploit their reserves due to being, well, themselves, but Chile has used their mineral wealth to turn themselves into South America's most stable and prosperous nation - in the world of the Collapse, once the dust settles the mineral will be even more valuable, and unlike Chile/Bolivia Argentina has a variety of other avenues to sustain themselves in the meantime.

Argentina has a lot going for it, needless to say. It's just a matter of utilizing their geopolitical advantages instead of languishing under either corrupt kleptocracies or destructive populists, which they've never managed to accomplish.
 
I think that Russia's control of the global oil market isn't about 100%; if you have seventy or eighty percent of a nation's oil imports, they need to be very careful about giving offense. If the Tsar was inclined to listen to his diplomats, he could very politely encourage the remaining independent oil producers to divide their exports among several buyers. If they handled it that way, countries might get ten or twenty percent of their oil from sources that weren't controlled by Russia.

That would provide an enormous incentive for going green, since Russia could cut off your oil imports whenever they felt like it.
Yeah, plus quite a few countries actually do have domestic oil production potential; it's just not very economical to access. Controlling 100% of the oil supply is just out of the question for the Russians; they'd have to literally occupy basically the whole world with troops or something.

But controlling the oil market is far more achievable.
 
Suggestions for South America: Argentina

As Argentina attempted to weather the collapse, a mad Russian diplomat attempted a superior method of creating Russian puppet states. Dark Russian science was used to resurrect Eva Peron, to act as a puppet governor. Unfortunately, she's proven less obedient than Russia wished, and impossible to kill. While she nominally pledges her loyalty to Russia, her cult of listeners grow ever stronger, pledging their lives,and deaths, to her ghostly chorus. Many in Russia fear she will soon revolt, no longer content to be a puppet. It is yet one more trouble Alexander has on his plate.

AN: Do it. @PoptartProdigy you can, in fact, make this canon. No one can stop you. You control it. Do it.
 
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