Traveller, The Rise of Empire: A Naval Design, Procurement and Command Quest

Relatively similar plan.

[ ] OPLAN: Acceleration
-[ ] What if we extracted promises in return for basing rights, rather than simple taxes.
--[ ] No contracts aimed at the HSWS; HSWS will hire a small group as advisors for smallcraft operations and development.
-[ ] Continue a more neutral position, allowing things to happen as they do.
-[ ] Accept both designs into service; alternate construction.
 
Remonstrate them for what? They've been fulfulling their end of the deal and there're no peacekeeping commitments on either side in Xyri.

Getting funny ideas about upsetting the smooth flow of trade between Home and Xyri. The fact there's no peacekeeping commitment doesn't mean no interests, and they think because we partner with them they've got a big dick to swing. If nothing else, we should inform them that we have no interest in helping them fuck up Xyri's economy with a war.
 
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OK, that we can do. I'm also adding an explicit ask for smallcraft advisors as Rat King suggested.

[X] Plan Neutral Aslan Torpedoes
-[X] What if we extracted promises in return for basing rights, rather than simple taxes.
--[X] Host a HSWS liaison.
--[X] Do not to accept contracts aimed at HSWS or Home's government.
--[X] Set aside time for HSWS training exercises and wargames. Provide advisors for smallcraft operations and development at preferential rates.
-[X] Continue a more neutral position, allowing things to happen as they do.
--[X] Stress the importance of trade remaining uninterrupted to the dictatorship.
-[X] We prefer the torpedo boat!
 
Guess I will do my very similar plan, although mine calls for adoption of both vessels as the Cruiser, Fast Attack (A Variant) and Cruiser, Fast Attack (B Variant). Taking suggestions for final class names, though. :V

[X] OPLAN: Acceleration
-[X] What if we extracted promises in return for basing rights, rather than simple taxes.
--[X] No contracts aimed at the HSWS or disrupting the security of Home Space; HSWS will take on a small group as advisors for smallcraft operations and development as a part of the basing rights deal.
-[X] Continue a more neutral position, allowing things to happen as they do.
-[X] Accept both designs into service as the Cruiser, Fast Attack (A) and Cruiser, Fast Attack (B); alternate construction.
 
[X] OPLAN Acceleration

Love this plan-applying air suffix logic to our fleet building is a great step in doctrinal modernization.
 
I'm concerned that our current "neutrality" is empowering enough that in practice it's not actually neutral. I'd like to try and open trade up a bit with the other factions in the hopes that we don't get another S'Taxu scenario where our current "partners" feel so threatened by us talking to someone else that they pull a nuclear-armed overly attached boy/girlfriend again.
 
I'm concerned that our current "neutrality" is empowering enough that in practice it's not actually neutral. I'd like to try and open trade up a bit with the other factions in the hopes that we don't get another S'Taxu scenario where our current "partners" feel so threatened by us talking to someone else that they pull a nuclear-armed overly attached boy/girlfriend again.

Yeah, it is something I kinda wanna do, but not sure how to get there.

The scientists seem like the least threatening to the dictatorship, at least, so could start there?

EDIT: I know they (in general) have like no interest in GOING TO SPACE, but I wonder if they'd be at all interested in like a joint orbital organization to run stuff.
 
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Yeah, it is something I kinda wanna do, but not sure how to get there.

The scientists seem like the least threatening to the dictatorship, at least, so could start there?

EDIT: I know they (in general) have like no interest in GOING TO SPACE, but I wonder if they'd be at all interested in like a joint orbital organization to run stuff.
Yeah, I don't remember enough about Xyri to be able to say how I'd do it. I'd like us to dip a toe into the water, but also need to make sure that it is actually being dipped while also not destabilizing things more than not doing it does.
 
Yeah, I don't remember enough about Xyri to be able to say how I'd do it. I'd like us to dip a toe into the water, but also need to make sure that it is actually being dipped while also not destabilizing things more than not doing it does.


Here's the info from waaaay back at the start.

-- Controlling the Capital, the Space Port and the orbitals, a fading dictatorship which once ruled the entire mainworld has slowly but surely had its power chipped away. Founded by a remarkably charismatic woman, her inheritors held neither the vision nor the sway over the people that she did and her empire has slowly crumbled. It is this state that still maintains an orbital military force of several fast attack boats and fighters armed predominantly with missiles.
-- With sway over the other major continent on Xyri proper, a republican coalition of dome-cities (much like those on Home) has split from the main faction and now rules democratically. They have shown little interest in space development and maintain a ring of satellites purely for communications and mapping. They have, nontheless, met with representatives.
-- A handful of cities are part of a technocratic union that is earnestly chasing a future in space, planning to abandon the surface of Xyri entirely. Their main interest in talks is industrial support to chase their dream of becoming a fully space-going peoples - something that is currently beyond the capabilities of Home as well as Xyri.

The dictatorship seems to have the most control over the orbitals, the republicans aren't that interested in space, and the technocrats are very interested in space.

So, we could offer the technocrats more support for their vision of transitioning to space and the dictator's current desire to... stay on top. Some kinda multi-national station as a jumping off point seems like it might be neat, but dunno if they'd jump for that.

EDIT: Could also build the republicans a space port, but that might make the dictator a little jumpy.
 
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Here's the info from waaaay back at the start.



The dictatorship seems to have the most control over the orbitals, the republicans aren't that interested in space, and the technocrats are very interested in space.

So, we could offer the technocrats more support for their vision of transitioning to space and the dictator's current desire to... stay on top. Some kinda multi-national station as a jumping off point seems like it might be neat, but dunno if they'd jump for that.

EDIT: Could also build the republicans a space port, but that might make the dictator a little jumpy.
If we had more time, I'd suggest switching to something like that, or maybe something like modest trade opportunities that explicitly are offered to all parties. As it is, I guess we'll have to table it for next time we get a chance to do something on Xyri.
 
I think the technocrats would be the best faction to reach out towards for tech, their goal is to leave the planet entirely and would probably still welcome any industrial aid we could provide them.
 
[X] Plan Neutral Aslan Torpedoes

These plan votes... I wish I could just have votes provided by the GM every update instead of having to depend on other players having the attention span to spend making up plans.
 
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7-4: Back to Basics
Adhoc vote count started by 4WheelSword on Aug 31, 2024 at 5:51 AM, finished with 42 posts and 8 votes.

  • [X] OPLAN: Acceleration
    [X] Plan Neutral Aslan Torpedoes
    -[X] What if we extracted promises in return for basing rights, rather than simple taxes.
    --[X] Host a HSWS liaison.
    --[X] Do not to accept contracts aimed at HSWS or Home's government.
    --[X] Set aside time for HSWS training exercises and wargames. Provide advisors for smallcraft operations and development at preferential rates.
    -[X] Continue a more neutral position, allowing things to happen as they do.
    --[X] Stress the importance of trade remaining uninterrupted to the dictatorship.
    -[X] We prefer the torpedo boat!
    [X] OPLAN: Acceleration
    -[X] What if we extracted promises in return for basing rights, rather than simple taxes.
    --[X] No contracts aimed at the HSWS or disrupting the security of Home Space; HSWS will take on a small group as advisors for smallcraft operations and development as a part of the basing rights deal.
    -[X] Continue a more neutral position, allowing things to happen as they do.
    -[X] Accept both designs into service as the Cruiser, Fast Attack (A) and Cruiser, Fast Attack (B); alternate construction.


What does the HSWS make of this request? What if we extracted promises in return for basing rights, rather than simple taxes.
In regards to Xyri we should Continue a more neutral position, allowing things to happen as they do.
What does the HSWS make of this design? Accept both designs into service as the Cruiser, Fast Attack (A) and Cruiser, Fast Attack (B); alternate construction.



Modern Construction
Modern Technology leads to modern solutions; the defence of Home, ten years ago, was the remit of capable ships crewed by veteran sailors who had pride in their ability to respond to problems throughout the system. Now plans are being laid down for a defence station that could out-fight any one of those ships at almost any range. Five of the most powerful particle weapons ever mounted aboard a star-going vessel (ignore that this one is only going to remain in orbit) and thirty torpedo tubes gives prodigious firepower at any range, while ten mixed point defence turrets allows a potential for self defence against enemy fire.

Even more remarkably, this station is designed to fit inside the cargo bay of one of the modular conveyors currently being built for the HSMS and thus can be transported to any safe port after construction. A ring of these stations could potentially engage and destroy a much larger attacker with only minimal losses.

We will begin building one example. Where should it be based?
[ ] Home, over the capital.
[ ] Cassalon, as a symbol of mutual defence.
[ ] Heimdall, in case of ingress.

The first of the new class of warship will be laid down at the beginning of 12y00m00w, once the Heimdall Anchorage is completed and begins transit to that distant sector. The CFA-A will be a missile ship and will be followed by a CFA-B once enough yard space is available (or once the CFA-A is finished, whichever comes first). We plan to move the SDD's into reserve and mothballs first, stored in a deep solar orbit where they can't cause any trouble until we need them against one day.



The Aslan
Two Aslan mercenary companies - the Wawindaji Hodari (lit: powerful hunters) and the Abulali Benkosi (lit: killers of idols) - arrive in Home over the course of four months, bringing with them pre-fabbed bases, a ship apiece and several hundred trained soldiers equipped with gear that is functionally unachievable for the Citizens Militia. They settle into a pair of unfinished dome-towns on the far side of the planet from the capital, accepting several significant restrictions on their activities as well as a permanent contract with the HSWS. According to these deals, the mercenary groups will:
- Take no contracts aimed at the HSWS or targeting HSWS facilities or personnel. Corporate espionage and war making is, of course, well within the remit of these soldiery.
- The HSWS will permanently employ a small group of specialists in fighter tactics and methodology in order to advise future construction and development of doctrine. They will cross train on Aslan fighters and the XF-40 fighter-bomber in order to develop tactics and strategies for the best use of both concepts.
- They will otherwise be able to operate in and beyond the borders of Home space with all the freedom they apparently expect, and will be able to purchase weapons from factories on Home that they would not be able to garner in their home systems.

It is understood that the two companies are already looking to cooperatively purchase a merchant ship from Home yards that will be able to travel between Home and the Aslan systems for resupply. It is likely that these two companies will soon become some of the best armed soldiers in this sector of space.



Scouting
By the middle of the 11th year the 1st Scout Flotilla has been training for long deployments and otherwise inactive for a year. They are ready for deployment - where is the HSWS going to send them?

They should be deployed to the:
[ ] North-West out from Cassalon
[ ] North, out from Deep Hope
[ ] North-East, out from the prison system
[ ] South-East, out from Xyri

Voting opens at . There is no expectation for plan voting.
 
[ ] Plan Hermosa Envelope
-[ ] Home, over the capital.
-[ ] South-West, out from Equus
--[ ] Purchase fuel from the miners, aim for systems west of Simone and Hermosa.

I'm putting the station at Home, because we've just retired the SDDs. When we'll build more of them we can put them in Cassalon and Heimdall. As for the scouting, it's done so we can see the extent of the Hermosa's territories before introducing ourselves.
 
Soith-west has no real appeal; we know Hermosa is there and powerful. If we plan on any additional expansion, I think it should be north or north-east.
 
[ ] Heimdall, in case of ingress.

Hmmm, I feel like putting over Home would be a good photo op, but this might actually be helpful in an invasion. If they've gotten to Home, we're already kind of boned.

[ ] North, out from Deep Hope

Yeah, I'd go with checking out what's beyond Deep Hope.
 
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