They already have ship packed of gold so if the find something it would have to be more valuable then Gold by weight to be worth looting. Maybe they have some sort of shady lab full of illegal chemicals? Chopper could use some new materials.
Edit: actually they are about to get a new ship with a nice big treasure room so gold is still worth picking up.
They already sold the gold so they have place for new treasure.
What they got instead of the gold was nice paper money that fill and weight a lot less, and that's probably what they can loot most of if they manage to find the place where the soldiers hire is stashed.
They already have ship packed of gold so if the find something it would have to be more valuable then Gold by weight to be worth looting. Maybe they have some sort of shady lab full of illegal chemicals? Chopper could use some new materials.
The gold should have be unloaded already and in the Water 7 bank. So, they have space (if it's Merry they are getting away on, instead of a marine battleship or something).
Personal thoughts on loot priorities, from most prioritized to least:
1) Seastone and seastone forging techniques. It's very durable (why is there no seastone armor, I have no idea), should be quite expensive, and it is the only way to fight against logias and some of the paramecias straw hats will have until all of them master armament haki
2) Treasure maps, navigation charts, passwords, classified technology and weapons, chemicals and such - something that can be turned into real money or power realtively easily, leads to more adventures, recruits or such, or gives them means to fight back against marines. I would actually rate classified intelligence as a lower priority - as far as "how much of sh*t you are in with WG due to how much you know" meter goes, strawhats should have pretty much hit the maximum counter already. Not to mention that, past CP9's post-battle report, WG would have to assume Cross knows pretty much everything, even stuff they don't know.
3) Dossiers on the enemies of WG - Cross, Water 7, Alabasta, revolutionaries all need allies, and need to cooperate if they are to stand a chance. This should give Cross a way to contact people canon didn't cover, and to weave a larger and better web of contacts. Also stuff like knowledge of where Alabasta's lost fruits are located, and Doflamingo's deadly shrimp allergy are always useful.
4) Paper money, bank accounts and such - always useful
5) Gold, jewels (unless they have practical use for, say, lasers, or historical value that might get straw hats allies) and such.
The gold should have be unloaded already and in the Water 7 bank. So, they have space (if it's Merry they are getting away on, instead of a marine battleship or something).
Personal thoughts on loot priorities, from most prioritized to least:
1) Seastone and seastone forging techniques. It's very durable (why is there no seastone armor, I have no idea), should be quite expensive, and it is the only way to fight against logias and some of the paramecias straw hats will have until all of them master armament haki
2) Treasure maps, navigation charts, passwords, classified technology and weapons, chemicals and such - something that can be turned into real money or power realtively easily, leads to more adventures, recruits or such, or gives them means to fight back against marines. I would actually rate classified intelligence as a lower priority - as far as "how much of sh*t you are in with WG due to how much you know" meter goes, strawhats should have pretty much hit the maximum counter already. Not to mention that, past CP9's post-battle report, WG would have to assume Cross knows pretty much everything, even stuff they don't know.
3) Dossiers on the enemies of WG - Cross, Water 7, Alabasta, revolutionaries all need allies, and need to cooperate if they are to stand a chance. This should give Cross a way to contact people canon didn't cover, and to weave a larger and better web of contacts. Also stuff like knowledge of where Alabasta's lost fruits are located, and Doflamingo's deadly shrimp allergy are always useful.
4) Paper money, bank accounts and such - always useful
5) Gold, jewels (unless they have practical use for, say, lasers, or historical value that might get straw hats allies) and such.
That's assuming they have time to go get any of that stuff. First they have to beat Cp9 then save Robin, after that they know the whole world is listening, which means the marines could arrive at any time. So they would have to escape quickly. And that's all assuming the buster call isn't activated
That's assuming they have time to go get any of that stuff. First they have to beat Cp9 then save Robin, after that they know the whole world is listening, which means the marines could arrive at any time. So they would have to escape quickly. And that's all assuming the buster call isn't activated
They have lots of allies. And some of the members that aren't up to fighting CP9. Allies should be raiding the island proper (for a share of the loot), and the weak members (Su, maybe TWDS, maybe Nami to coordinate the search) raid the tower while the strong ones take the brunt of fighting.
Because
A) (as you said) it's expensive. Cost wise it's likely cheaper to make armor out of other materials and repair/replace when needed.
B) it's hard to work with. Armor can be surprisingly fiddley. Ensuring it fits right, covers enough, is easy to get in and out of and still allows freedom of movement takes careful work. Even assuming you have the ability to forge seastone and the presumeably secret methods needed to work it. That armor would still have to be crafted specially for each individual.
C) proper mastery of haki is better. Can't stolen or lost either.
Armor doesn't work for every situation or fighting style. For one, it turns your fighters into hammers (not a good thing on an ocean world). Better to say 'offense is the best defense' and make weapons instead. More man-power with the ability to harry DF users. It takes less seastone to tip a weapon than cover even the basic vital points on a single soldier.
If you weren't meaning to outfit troops but a single user (or small strike force), you get better returns to simply teach them haki. As you'll note all the big names in the Marines know. It can't be stolen or used against you, it costs nothing, it provides offensive power as well as defensive, doesn't inhibit movement or swimming ability, heck the only advantage armor has is haki needs to be actively activated where armor is passive. Still does you no good if you're not wearing it or if your opponent sees you have armor and purposefully ups their attack/changes target to get around it.
Anyone who has the money, the ability, and the access, is pretty much WG. A Celestial Dragon might, because its ostentatious and they have to have the 'best', but it'd sit in a display room too heavy to wear. Not like anyone would attack a World Noble, right?
Because
A) (as you said) it's expensive. Cost wise it's likely cheaper to make armor out of other materials and repair/replace when needed.
B) it's hard to work with. Armor can be surprisingly fiddley. Ensuring it fits right, covers enough, is easy to get in and out of and still allows freedom of movement takes careful work. Even assuming you have the ability to forge seastone and the presumeably secret methods needed to work it. That armor would still have to be crafted specially for each individual.
C) proper mastery of haki is better. Can't stolen or lost either.
Armor doesn't work for every situation or fighting style. For one, it turns your fighters into hammers (not a good thing on an ocean world). Better to say 'offense is the best defense' and make weapons instead. More man-power with the ability to harry DF users. It takes less seastone to tip a weapon than cover even the basic vital points on a single soldier.
If you weren't meaning to outfit troops but a single user (or small strike force), you get better returns to simply teach them haki. As you'll note all the big names in the Marines know. It can't be stolen or used against you, it costs nothing, it provides offensive power as well as defensive, doesn't inhibit movement or swimming ability, heck the only advantage armor has is haki needs to be actively activated where armor is passive. Still does you no good if you're not wearing it or if your opponent sees you have armor and purposefully ups their attack/changes target to get around it.
Anyone who has the money, the ability, and the access, is pretty much WG. A Celestial Dragon might, because its ostentatious and they have to have the 'best', but it'd sit in a display room too heavy to wear. Not like anyone would attack a World Noble, right?
Guys, I was watch an AMV and then I thought about a group of people for MI5, Z and the Neo Marines, I think the Buster Call reveal might affect his path, no?
Unfortunately, I don't believe that seastone can actually be alloyed, due to its 'hard as diamond' toughness and such. It's possible to reinforce an object with seastone, though, or use it as a coating/composite.
Unfortunately, I don't believe that seastone can actually be alloyed, due to its 'hard as diamond' toughness and such. It's possible to reinforce an object with seastone, though, or use it as a coating/composite.
Hardness/toughness doesn't have anything to do with melting point however, which is how one creates alloys. Everything melts if you can heat it to the correct temperature. Admittedly that might be extremely hot--hotter than you can get without specialized equipment or DF schenanigans, but it's certainly possible. Now whether those two metals can create bonds instead of separating and crystalizing is a question. But an alloy of seastone with some kind of metal is definitely possible, even if seastone is more diamond like chemically than metallic, our world has diamond alloys. They're new, meant to replace industrial uses diamonds because 'hard as diamond' is insufficiently durable when diamonds are chemically weak.
What hard/tough as diamond means is that it is resistant to physical force. Geologically, hardness is 'can it be scratched by other substances', not how many blows it can take with a hammer. This is why diamonds are used to cut but not as shields (and one reason why seastone armour may not exist, although I bet the comparison is meant for the colloquial definition not the technical). I would bet that the secret to working with seastone requires heating to extreme temperatures and pouring the resultant molten metal into molds rather than the forge and anvil method most of the Blues use for iron.
It also occurs to me that seastone may be a bit of misnomer as it might already be an alloy not a refined ore. I believe it was mentioned that it was known seastone was partially made from the same particles that made the White Seas in the sky. Which would explain why it's rare beyond scarcity of material-alloys need specific percentages to have the desired properties.
I just think of it as Nami having a minor hair-trigger temper as of canon before Cross came along and exacerbated the problem into a major one.
Because while I know that as much as Cross is amusing to us readers who know even more than he does, he would be beyond frustrating if I knew him personally AND I didn't know the things he knows.
On the other hand, recently the Female-on-Male physical humor has been a tad too anvilicious for my taste, but really this is One Piece we are talking about. It wouldn't be a fanfic of One Piece if there wasn't any.
So, on this debate I stay on the fence about it. Cross does deserve some of what he gets, but it could be reeled in for a bit. I would suggest the opposite - like Chopper dope-slapping Nami in case she relapses in the future - but the difficulty in that is Sanji. Still, slapstick should know no gender
My thoughts exactly. Although the "feminine rage" beatings recently have gone from slapstick to unintentional attempted murder, Cross is not entirely without fault, and Nami is not entirely to blame. Like readerdreamer said, someone with Cross's personality and antics irl would be insufferable. He feels he can get away with embarrassing his friends because they were fine with it in the manga, or laughing as they panic at terrifying situations because he knows they won't be in any real danger, but they don't know that. All they see is that Cross knows that these terrible things are gonna happen, but lets them happen anyway for his own amusement. If I had a friend like that, they wouldn't be my friend for much longer, in all honesty. The only reason most of the crew puts up with him is because he's a pretty decent guy when he's not trying to get his next adrenaline rush, they know he won't put them in any serious danger, and because most of the crew is already pretty eccentric to begin with.
As for Nami, it's already made abundantly clear that she feels pretty terrible about unintentionally trying to maim or kill Cross. Even for an asshole like him, that's unacceptable behavior and she knows it. My guess is that she has a lot of conflicting emotions regarding Cross in particular. Even though he can be the most aggravating person imaginable and she'd like nothing more than to throttle him sometimes, he's still one of her closest friends and has helped her through her moments of doubt and lack of confidence and self-esteem. This conflict of feelings is only exacerbated by the fact that Cross couldn't take the same level of punishment everyone else could, so Nami's had to repress even more of her rage.
And if you ask me, she might also be repressing some "more than just 'like'" FEELINGS for him too. But I'm a shameless shipper, so just ignore me on that one.
Maybe the beatings should be toned down a bit, but if anything, I think Cross needs to be knocked down a few more pegs, at least to balance out how much of an influence he's having on the entire world.
A lot of people have come up with epithets for the various crewmates, both canonical and noncanonical, who've yet to earn them, and I thought I'd chip in my two cents.
The Teenage Dugong Warrior Squad is already a moniker unto itself, so I don't feel there's any need for another.
Likewise, "Boss" is already appropriately badass on its own, unless you want to add "The" or "Big" in front of it.
"Supersonic" Carue is quick, simple, and self-explanatory.
"Mad Doctor" Chopper seems like the easiest choice, but there are so many mad scientists out there that it doesn't feel unique enough...
"Weather Witch" Nami is also a splendid choice, fitting for her navigational prowess, weaponized weather skills, and her temper.
"Howlitzer" Lasoo is a great pun and is already a nickname the crew uses for him.
"Archangel of Arms" or "Hell's Angel" Conis, for being probably the nicest person on the crew, yet fiercely protective of her friends while carrying an unholy amount of firepower.
Su hasn't really done anything worthy of an epithet, and I can't really think of anything for Soundbite except maybe "Sonic Snail".
Now, as for Cross, a lot of people have suggested Devil's Advocate or something related to Chaos. Personally, I think another title is more fitting for him: The Serpent. Allow me to explain...
This epithet is loaded with metaphor. Anyone who's even a little familiar with the Bible knows the role the serpent played in it, and, at least in the World Government's eyes, Cross matches the description in all but appearance. The people of the world are the blissfully ignorant denizens of "Eden", also known as "Paradise", (and oh, would you look at that, half of the world actually is called Paradise, so the analogy is even more fitting) which in this case is the WG, with God being the Elder Five Stars and Celestial Dragons. As long as the people obey their "gods'" every order and whim, they're promised safety and order. Along comes The Serpent, which presents to the people the Fruit of Knowledge that is the SBS, in order to tempt and turn the people away from their self-proclaimed gods. His words and knowledge, like a snake's bite, are pure poison for the established order, but those who partake of the fruit and accept the knowledge it contains have their eyes opened to the true state of the world around them. Having accepted the truth of the SBS, these newly enlightened folk are expelled from Eden, either willingly, like Alabaster, Water 7, and MI5, or unwillingly in the case of the dissenting Giant Marines. In the WG's eyes, Cross, like the biblical serpent, is the root of all the "evil" currently happening in the world, having directly inspired all the Supernovas into unprecedented direct attacks against the Marines and even the Celestial Dragons themselves.
Second, the WG doesn't want people to like Cross- they want them to fear and hate him. Most humans have an almost instinctive fear of snakes, and literature is rife with negative connotations for them. Going by the title of Serpent also adds all the negative biblical associations previously mentioned, so such a name would hopefully turn people against Cross (unlikely), and inspire fear and dread in anyone who stands against him.
Third, The Serpent, often associated with Satan, is a fitting epithet for a member of the Demon Trio.
Lastly, Cross's codename within MI5, Ophiuchus, is represented as a man holding a snake, and literally means "serpent-bearer". Being officially given the epithet of The Serpent would thus be extraordinarily appropriate and poetically ironic, even if the WG doesn't know it.
EDIT: This part is just grasping at straws, but serpents are often compared to worms, at least visually. What's another name for dragons and wyverns? Wyrms. Thus, (The) Serpent - > worm - > wyrm - > Wyvern! It was practically foretold before I even thought of it, so it MUST be canon!
My thoughts exactly. Although the "feminine rage" beatings recently have gone from slapstick to unintentional attempted murder, Cross is not entirely without fault, and Nami is not entirely to blame. Like readerdreamer said, someone with Cross's personality and antics irl would be insufferable. He feels he can get away with embarrassing his friends because they were fine with it in the manga, or laughing as they panic at terrifying situations because he knows they won't be in any real danger, but they don't know that. All they see is that Cross knows that these terrible things are gonna happen, but lets them happen anyway for his own amusement. If I had a friend like that, they wouldn't be my friend for much longer, in all honesty. The only reason most of the crew puts up with him is because he's a pretty decent guy when he's not trying to get his next adrenaline rush, they know he won't put them in any serious danger, and because most of the crew is already pretty eccentric to begin with.
As for Nami, it's already made abundantly clear that she feels pretty terrible about unintentionally trying to maim or kill Cross. Even for an asshole like him, that's unacceptable behavior and she knows it. My guess is that she has a lot of conflicting emotions regarding Cross in particular. Even though he can be the most aggravating person imaginable and she'd like nothing more than to throttle him sometimes, he's still one of her closest friends and has helped her through her moments of doubt and lack of confidence and self-esteem. This conflict of feelings is only exacerbated by the fact that Cross couldn't take the same level of punishment everyone else could, so Nami's had to repress even more of her rage.
And if you ask me, she might also be repressing some "more than just 'like'" FEELINGS for him too. But I'm a shameless shipper, so just ignore me on that one.
Maybe the beatings should be toned down a bit, but if anything, I think Cross needs to be knocked down a few more pegs, at least to balance out how much of an influence he's having on the entire world.
A lot of people have come up with epithets for the various crewmates, both canonical and noncanonical, who've yet to earn them, and I thought I'd chip in my two cents.
The Teenage Dugong Warrior Squad is already a moniker unto itself, so I don't feel there's any need for another.
Likewise, "Boss" is already appropriately badass on its own, unless you want to add "The" or "Big" in front of it.
"Supersonic" Carue is quick, simple, and self-explanatory.
"Mad Doctor" Chopper seems like the easiest choice, but there are so many mad scientists out there that it doesn't feel unique enough...
"Weather Witch" Nami is also a splendid choice, fitting for her navigational prowess, weaponized weather skills, and her temper.
"Howlitzer" Lasoo is a great pun and is already a nickname the crew uses for him.
"Archangel of Arms" or "Hell's Angel" Conis, for being probably the nicest person on the crew, yet fiercely protective of her friends while carrying an unholy amount of firepower.
Su hasn't really done anything worthy of an epithet, and I can't really think of anything for Soundbite except maybe "Sonic Snail".
Now, as for Cross, a lot of people have suggested Devil's Advocate or something related to Chaos. Personally, I think another title is more fitting for him: The Serpent. Allow me to explain...
This epithet is loaded with metaphor. Anyone who's even a little familiar with the Bible knows the role the serpent played in it, and, at least in the World Government's eyes, Cross matches the description in all but appearance. The people of the world are the blissfully ignorant denizens of "Eden", also known as "Paradise", (and oh, would you look at that, half of the world actually is called Paradise, so the analogy is even more fitting) which in this case is the WG, with God being the Elder Five Stars and Celestial Dragons. As long as the people obey their "gods'" every order and whim, they're promised safety and order. Along comes The Serpent, which presents to the people the Fruit of Knowledge that is the SBS, in order to tempt and turn the people away from their self-proclaimed gods. His words and knowledge, like a snake's bite, are pure poison for the established order, but those who partake of the fruit and accept the knowledge it contains have their eyes opened to the true state of the world around them. Having accepted the truth of the SBS, these newly enlightened folk are expelled from Eden, either willingly, like Alabaster, Water 7, and MI5, or unwillingly in the case of the dissenting Giant Marines. In the WG's eyes, Cross, like the biblical serpent, is the root of all the "evil" currently happening in the world, having directly inspired all the Supernovas into unprecedented direct attacks against the Marines and even the Celestial Dragons themselves.
Second, the WG doesn't want people to like Cross- they want them to fear and hate him. Most humans have an almost instinctive fear of snakes, and literature is rife with negative connotations for them. Going by the title of Serpent also adds all the negative biblical associations previously mentioned, so such a name would hopefully turn people against Cross (unlikely), and inspire fear and dread in anyone who stands against him.
Third, The Serpent, often associated with Satan, is a fitting epithet for a member of the Demon Trio.
Lastly, Cross's codename within MI5, Ophiuchus, is represented as a man holding a snake, and literally means "serpent-bearer". Being officially given the epithet of The Serpent would thus be extraordinarily appropriate and poetically ironic, even if the WG doesn't know it.
EDIT: This part is just grasping at straws, but serpents are often compared to worms, at least visually. What's another name for dragons and wyverns? Wyrms. Thus, (The) Serpent - > worm - > wyrm - > Wyvern! It was practically foretold before I even thought of it, so it MUST be canon!
So how would Sanji react, to learning that one of the main theories about him, from Crosses world is that he has some relation to the five elder stars?
Huh. That's interesting. The font didn't look all that different on my phone. I guess that's what happens when you use a much smaller screen...
I'm guessing that Enies Lobby won't be wrapped up by next chapter with just ~32k words, at least if all the CP9 fights are gonna be covered. Sure, Cross-brain can just skim over those like they did with Skypeia post-electrocution, but then you'd be missing out on seeing the fruits of the Star Hats' training efforts and how they stack up against CP9, but there's still the issue of there being way too many Straw Hats this time around for proper matchups, and the balance is even more thrown off since Jabra's been defeated early. I wonder how they're gonna pull this off...
Normally his awakened form is monstrous, like all awakened zoan. But given how he's invested heavily in the brain portion of his fruit, and how he has the human zoan, instead of being a monstrous hulk, might he just end up looking more human in this canon?
Normally his awakened form is monstrous, like all awakened zoan. But given how he's invested heavily in the brain portion of his fruit, and how he has the human zoan, instead of being a monstrous hulk, might he just end up looking more human in this canon?
Personally, I'm expecting something along the lines of Grey Hulk: Big, strong, scary and mean looking, and 'holy-shit he can think the pants off ya' levels of intelligence.
Hot damn, look at the lyrics and its almoust as if the song was made for this situation.
The King and his men stole the queen from her bed
and bound her in her bones
The seas be ours and by the powers
Where we will...we'll roam
Luffy the soon to be pirate king and his crew steal Robin from the WG.
Some men have died and some are alive
And others sail on the sea
With the keys to the cage
And the devil to pay
We lay to Fiddler's Green!
......
The bell has been raised from its watery grave
Do you hear its sepulchral tone?
A Call to all, pay heed to the squall
And turn your sail towards home!
These two verses are something to make the 5 eldar stars shit themself's in fear.
Because to them it sounds as if some of their enimies from the void century survived
and are on the warpath.
The chorus also make sure no one is going to stop singing this for a while, I mean what pirate or
sailor is going to pass up the yo,ho
The only downside is that everybody and their mom are going to ship Robin and Luffy.
