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There Was A Different Idea: An MCU Producer Quest

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Eh, admittedly I feel like Disney's desperate desire to avoid politics, controversy, or having an opinion (or ambition) is almost a bigger problem. :V

More than Disney being "too political."
 
The Laurent said:
Eh, admittedly I feel like Disney's desperate desire to avoid politics, controversy, or having an opinion (or ambition) is almost a bigger problem.
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Reminds me when Disney put a thanks to the genocidal authorities in Xinjiang in their dogshit Mulan remake….

Anyways, there are definitely other companies we can get to. Just gotta find the ones that don't stifle our creative vision…
 
Marvel leadership is made up of clowns, more news at eleven. In all seriousness it's a little disappointing that the Mouse money won't be coming in but I fully expect to be bought out by some evil corporate overlord eventually. For now we just keep on making good movies and work with the clowns we know we're stuck with for a good while longer.

I'm excited for Hawkeye though and while the low rolls on getting people excited is disappointing I think we can get it done and make it great.

@overmind is there a reason why Thor doesn't have a production and post-production phase and we're jumping straight into Hawkeye unlike what's happened with both movies before? It just seems a little weird to me that we're now doing something different than what's been outlined previously. I'd just like to know if it's a universal format change or something because it's distinctly different than what happened with both Iron Man and Hulk before now.
 
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King crimson said:
Marvel leadership is made up of clowns, more news at eleven. In all seriousness it's a little disappointing that the Mouse money won't be coming in but I fully expect to be bought out by some evil corporate overlord eventually. For now we just keep on making good movies and work with the clowns we know we're stuck with for a good while longer.

I'm excited for Hawkeye though and while the low rolls on getting people excited is disappointing I think we can get it done.

@overmind is there a reason why Thor doesn't have a production and post-production phase and we're jumping straight into Hawkeye unlike what's happened with both movies before? It just seems a little weird to me that we're now doing something different than what's been outlined previously. I'd just like to know if it's a universal format change or something because it's distinctly different than what happened with both Iron Man and Hulk before now.
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We didn't take this option:
[] Focus on smoothing any obstacles for the Technical Aspects of the production and filming of the movie (Costs all 3 actions)

So the director controls the shoot, applying reshoot points, etc.
 
Nystical said:
We didn't take this option:
[] Focus on smoothing any obstacles for the Technical Aspects of the production and filming of the movie (Costs all 3 actions)

So the director controls the shoot, applying reshoot points, etc.
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Wait... OH, that makes sense.

Edit: @overmind, can we at least see the rolls for the Thor production and stuff? Please with a cherry on top?
 
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Nystical said:
We didn't take this option:
[] Focus on smoothing any obstacles for the Technical Aspects of the production and filming of the movie (Costs all 3 actions)

So the director controls the shoot, applying reshoot points, etc.
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I mean I didn't know and I think part of the issue is that this wasn't something that was an option previously. Like this was a format change that flew under the radar and so I personally would like to know if it's a universal thing going forward now because it's distinctly different from what came before.

Edit: We distinctly didn't have to make this call for Hulk and Iron Man so I'd like to know if this is the new standard or if things go back to the Hulk/Iron Man way of doing things. Furthermore it's still weird that we don't even get to see the numbers that were rolled even if we can't change them.
 
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King crimson said:
I mean I didn't know and I think part of the issue is that this wasn't something that was an option previously. Like this was a format change that flew under the radar and so I personally would like to know if it's a universal thing going forward now because it's distinctly different from what came before.
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Either way I think us finding out the Disney deal went wrong, hyping up Hawkeye for the fans, and networking with Marvel (which is definitely more important now than before) is better than us going through the Thor cycle with manual control, not trusting the director we hired to do a good job.

We got really good rolls with our directors and writers, that is how we can beat WB in the long run.
 
Nystical said:
Either way I think us finding out the Disney deal went wrong, hyping up Hawkeye for the fans, and networking with Marvel (which is definitely more important now than before) is better than us going through the Thor cycle with manual control, not trusting the director we hired to do a good job.

We got really good rolls with our directors and writers, that is how we can beat WB in the long run.
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I mean I do for the most part agree with you but that's not the issue I'm having here. I voted for the plan you made and I'm fine with it. I just would like clarification if the change to the format of the quest that completely flew under the radar is permanent and thus something we have to consider going forward or not.

The rules of how the quest works suddenly shifted and I'd like to get clarity on if it's the new normal. The fact that we don't even know if Thor is any good or what's going on with it and we're already moving on to the Hawkeye's movie is kind of problematic as well since we've got no idea what executives want and what's going on. Add in that the writing of the post-credits scenes are missing and this change of format just feels really messy and weird. Like what even are Thor's post-credits scenes with the movie we made?

My issue is not with the plan we voted for my issue is that how the quest works was suddenly altered with no warning and it feels really weird to suddenly have the preestablished pattern broken with next to no warning. Again it's not an issue with the plan we voted for but it's the fact that now it seems like the quest is operating differently than how it has always operated before this point.
 
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Yeah we should have control over post credit scenes at least. And the fact we got reports implies maybe we should see some rolls.

It is kind of unfortunate that keeping an eye on the film is 3 actions. 2 I think would be low enough where we would be tempted to pick it up but still allows us to pick one other action to keep things interesting.
 
Nystical said:
Yeah we should have control over post credit scenes at least. And the fact we got reports implies maybe we should see some rolls.

It is kind of unfortunate that keeping an eye on the film is 3 actions. 2 I think would be low enough where we would be tempted to pick it up but still allows us to pick one other action to keep things interesting.
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According to the rules in the informational post we should be seeing all of the rolls. This is the part that got cut for seemingly no reason
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This phase is the actual shooting of the movie and the aftermath! It's key to keep planning ahead of the daily shoot. Stick to budget, stick to schedule, and make sure there's communication between location, set, office, and all other parties involved. The bulk of post-production consists of reviewing the footage and assembling the movie (editing) for the first cut.

The entire process typically takes between 8 to 13 months (typically 10 months). Most of the rolls here are universal 1d100. A lot of these rolls does effect each other bonus and malus (as well as the previous result of script, casting choice and production come into play too).

The rolls are:
Protagonist Chemistry ; Antagonist Chemistry ; Side Cast Chemistry ; (optional) Romance Chemistry ; Actor Screen Presence (Performance) ; Choreography ; Production Quality ; Sound Design ; Editing ; VFX.
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This is what we should be missing due to not voting for the option to do so
overmind said:
This phase is where you gonna delay and reshoot/reediting the first result (if the thread choose to). The movie is gonna get delayed and more time and budget will be spent, if the thread find any dice result from the previous phase unsatisfied. They can choose to redo them, which prompt into a reroll of the result. You get three rerolls per month to finish, depending on the speed..

If the quest choose to reshoot: Pre-Production Phase --> Production and Post-Production Phase (The Voting for Additional Production Phase) --> Additional Production Phase --> Box Office and Reception Phase

If the quest not choose to reshoot: Pre-Production Phase --> Production and Post-Production Phase (The Voting for Additional Production Phase) --> Box Office and Reception Phase

Be careful with the budget as well as the delay, there are possible different consequences if this keeps happening. The studio might not be pleased, dwindling hype for the movie, etc...
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We ended up missing both and it feels (to me at least) very much like rules and mechanics are being altered and upended with no warning.

Edit: @overmind the more I look into this the more confused I get on how the rules are actually working now and how things have been changed.
 
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King crimson said:
@overmind is there a reason why Thor doesn't have a production and post-production phase and we're jumping straight into Hawkeye unlike what's happened with both movies before? It just seems a little weird to me that we're now doing something different than what's been outlined previously. I'd just like to know if it's a universal format change or something because it's distinctly different than what happened with both Iron Man and Hulk before now.
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King crimson said:
Edit: @overmind the more I look into this the more confused I get on how the rules are actually working now and how things have been changed.
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You have two movies who are being produced roughly at around the same time. Reather thn go all the way for one, and then having to redo everything from the start for the next, I'm going back to the beginning for Hawkeye (which remember, is roughly at the same time as Thor) and move it along so that we can do the Production and Post-Production of Thor, plus the Box Office results, and then it can be followed up by the Production and Post-Production of Hawkeye with its Box Office results.

I hope this clarifies it.
Nystical said:
We didn't take this option:
[] Focus on smoothing any obstacles for the Technical Aspects of the production and filming of the movie (Costs all 3 actions)
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No, that option gives you a bonus for the rolls and speeds up production.
 
overmind said:
You have two movies who are being produced roughly at around the same time. Reather thn go all the way for one, and then having to redo everything from the start for the next, I'm going back to the beginning for Hawkeye (which remember, is roughly at the same time as Thor) and move it along so that we can do the Production and Post-Production of Thor, plus the Box Office results, and then it can be followed up by the Production and Post-Production of Hawkeye with its Box Office results.

I hope this clarifies it.

No, that option gives you a bonus for the rolls and speeds up production.
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*Relieved donkey noises* I had a feeling this was somewhat the case, but I wasn't sure. Well, that's a needed breath of fresh air. :D Thanks for the info, overmind.

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At least the actors were getting along; Jason and Tom had become fast friends bonding over their children, and Tom's apparent desire to wow them when they see him on screen. Tatiana has mostly remained in her trailer practicing her lines, while Eric is more relaxed, though amused at acting the character he played so many years ago. That's better than Gal though, as her accent kept getting in the way when saying her lines.
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The bolded words are what clued me in that we may have been overreacting.
 
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Duke William of said:
I'm currently thinking Karl Urban as Hawkeye. What am I even doing...
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Karl Urban is a friggin amazing actor. Big range too. He could honestly pull off Hawkeye pretty well I feel but he'd make a good Punisher or Taskmaster I think.

As for the Disney roll, HELL YEAH! Screw Disney and their PG-13 action comedy obsession. Not being under the mouse's heel is good in my mind. More freedom and five years from now Disney will very much regret walking away.
 
Duke William of said:
I'm currently thinking Karl Urban as Hawkeye. What am I even doing...
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I don't mind it and I think it's not bad casting.
Magoose said:
Just not Hawkeye material…

Wait… what about Keanu?:V
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Even less Hawkeye material. The man simply isn't good at dialogue at all and he doesn't look the part and it would likely drag him down hard. The roles he's most successful in are the ones that limit his interactions with other characters to mostly just fight scenes and nothing else.

Edit: If we absolutely need Keanu in something I honestly think he'd be better off in a less central role to the cinematic universe so that he can focus on action and fight scenes which is what he's good at.

Edit #2: Like for an example of how this might work, if we get an Agents of SHIELD-esque television show, I think Keanu would make an excellent boogeyman-like figure who simply doesn't go down and just continues to fight and outlast everything the opposite side throws at him. He doesn't need to speak or communicate a lot he just gets to be absolutely terrifying and shine in action scenes.

Edit #3: If we were to get Spider-Man back I think Keanu could make a really terrifying Kraven as well. That role in my opinion certainly suits him a lot better than Hawkeye.
 
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I'm looking over the Brother Voodoo cast, and I have some ideas. I'm just... I don't feel too proud of my creativity right now.

Mahershela Ali as Brother Voodoo
Jamie Foxx as Baron Samedi
Don Cheadle or Djimon Hounsou as Samuel Tate
 
After thinking about Crimson's valid points, I do have to agree. Of course, I don't want Keanu to just have a one off role as a villain though….
 
K.2 said:
After thinking about Crimson's valid points, I do have to agree. Of course, I don't want Keanu to just have a one off role as a villain though….
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...Black Bolt, I guess?? 🤷‍♂️ I mean, he technically doesn't speak at all, right? At least, if Lego Marvel 2 is accurate.
 
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