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I think Red Skull's MCU look is pretty good though. The asthetic is good clothing wise, and the all-black uniform fits Skull being a whackjob considering the SS's all black uniform
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There Was A Different Idea: An MCU Producer Quest
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I think Red Skull's MCU look is pretty good though. The asthetic is good clothing wise, and the all-black uniform fits Skull being a whackjob considering the SS's all black uniform
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I think his MCU uniform is fine. The lack of a lapel, collared shirt beneath and lack of tie just kind of bug me. Like if you were to compare the two basic SS uniforms had a pretty different look as compared to what the MCU gave Red Skull. Red Skull's design is just kind of boring in the MCU and doesn't actually really resemble WW2 Nazi uniforms all that much.
I don't hate the MCU's look but I think we could easily do much better or something more interesting.
Edit: I think a look more along these lines
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Took me a while to decide, but I finally made my choice.
[X] [Thor] Jason Momoa - His latest role was that of Ronon Dex in the series Stargate: Atlantis and he has the look nearly down for the role. He initially had no interest in auditioning, thinking it was just another "dumb barbarian" role. One entire day talking to him, and then looking at the script convinced him to give it a try. He has since come around to the idea of playing the God of Thunder.
[X] [Loki] Tom Ellis - He's a good actor, as he's only been in the business for a decade he's made some impression, but not a memorable one yet. He has expressed a deep interest in playing the part, and has discussed on some of the more playful and manipulative aspects of the character. Not as memorable as other actors, but you think he has what it takes.
[X] [Odin] Brendan Gleeson - Brendan has been in acting since the early 90's, and you still remember him for his role in Mel Gibson's Braveheart. He has played Shakespearean tragedies as much as comedies, and his tall heavy figure just complement what's beneath.
[X] [Laufey] Cillian Murphy – Another returner! There is no doubt in your mind that Cillian could play King Laufey, and the special effects would hide his identity. Now, how to fix the fight scenes?
[X] [Heimdall] Vladimir Kulich - A Czechoslovakian-born Canadian with a reputation for playing Viking characters well and often, Vladimir certainly has the look of a bad-ass Viking who could also be a member of Odin's older generation.
[X] [Sif] Gal Gadot – The former Miss Israel from 2004, she has just finished the filming for the fourth installment of The Fast and the Furious franchise, but aside from that there has been nothing of note about her.
[X] [Donald] Eric Allan Kramer - Eric is the man who portrayed Thor back in the old Hulk television show, so giving him a role and cameo at the same time could be nice. You're sure he would appreciate being able to appear in the film.
[X] [Foster] Tatiana Maslany – A…Canadian (it's in the same continent, so it counts as American!), Maslany has had the longest career but perhaps made less of a splash than her competition. She's more experienced a least.
[X] Plan Hype & Networking
[X] [Thor] Jason Momoa - His latest role was that of Ronon Dex in the series Stargate: Atlantis and he has the look nearly down for the role. He initially had no interest in auditioning, thinking it was just another "dumb barbarian" role. One entire day talking to him, and then looking at the script convinced him to give it a try. He has since come around to the idea of playing the God of Thunder.
[X] [Loki] Tom Ellis - He's a good actor, as he's only been in the business for a decade he's made some impression, but not a memorable one yet. He has expressed a deep interest in playing the part, and has discussed on some of the more playful and manipulative aspects of the character. Not as memorable as other actors, but you think he has what it takes.
[X] [Odin] Brendan Gleeson - Brendan has been in acting since the early 90's, and you still remember him for his role in Mel Gibson's Braveheart. He has played Shakespearean tragedies as much as comedies, and his tall heavy figure just complement what's beneath.
[X] [Laufey] Cillian Murphy – Another returner! There is no doubt in your mind that Cillian could play King Laufey, and the special effects would hide his identity. Now, how to fix the fight scenes?
[X] [Heimdall] Vladimir Kulich - A Czechoslovakian-born Canadian with a reputation for playing Viking characters well and often, Vladimir certainly has the look of a bad-ass Viking who could also be a member of Odin's older generation.
[X] [Sif] Gal Gadot – The former Miss Israel from 2004, she has just finished the filming for the fourth installment of The Fast and the Furious franchise, but aside from that there has been nothing of note about her.
[X] [Donald] Eric Allan Kramer - Eric is the man who portrayed Thor back in the old Hulk television show, so giving him a role and cameo at the same time could be nice. You're sure he would appreciate being able to appear in the film.
[X] [Foster] Tatiana Maslany – A…Canadian (it's in the same continent, so it counts as American!), Maslany has had the longest career but perhaps made less of a splash than her competition. She's more experienced a least.
[X] Plan Hype & Networking
Amalgam suit would fit here. Take the cowl cape and add the bodysuit of original without insignia. Make the scythe not attached.
Marvel Ultimate version which probably was base for MCU would be best choice here.
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Took me a bit to decide but I think I've made my decision.
[X] Plan Hype & Networking
Yeah I agree with King Crimson on the Redskull design. Keep the MCU black color pallet but make his outfit even more SSish. Although I don't really see how we could go too nazi with redskins. He is an actual Nazi after all.
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Yeah I agree with King Crimson on the Redskull design. Keep the MCU black color pallet but make his outfit even more SSish. Although I don't really see how we could go too nazi with redskins. He is an actual Nazi after all.
King crimson
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I do think the color scheme does need to be shifted a fair bit and the body suit should probably have a few more elements breaking it up. Like the original costume looks like this
Like I think the Earth's Mightiest Hero's version has a palette closer to what we want and while we likely won't copy it one to one (scythe arm is probably dropped and I think that the silver bits would be less prominent and likely not include the boots) I do think additional elements from it like the belt are really good additions that help break up the design.
I agree that mimicking the MCU in their design choices would probably be for the best (though I would like more purple). That being said I do think specifying that we'd probably be mimicking the costume of the OTL MCU is good for retaining clarity. The Ultimate Marvel version of Hawkeye actually has two costumes one which was loosely adapted to the MCU
The worse costume that literally put a bullseye on his forehead is the one that actually stuck around in Ultimate Marvel and I'd go with a classic costume over that mess.
Too Nazi might be something like emblazoning him with a lot of swastikas which could cause the Motion Picture Association to spike the rating. I think the easy fix with that case is to replace the swastika with a Hydra symbol but this is meant to just be a basic example. "Too Nazi" a design is basically a design that doesn't fly past the Motion Picture Associations censors/raters as opposed to a design that has an issue inherent to itself in a vacuum.
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So take a darker version of the color pallet from the second one and combine it with everything superior (that being everything) in the first costume? Purple and black seems like a nice color scheme. Of course, I'd like the costume we go with to look less smooth and more tactical so it looks less like a acrobat's getup and more tactical….which is basically the MCU's….the character designers were pretty competent, no?I do think the color scheme does need to be shifted a fair bit and the body suit should probably have a few more elements breaking it up. Like the original costume looks like thisI don't think the blue skintight suit and weird sock-shoes really would work in live action. Give him something to break up all the blue on his body and darken the tone from cobalt to a more navy color scheme and I think it would work better.
Like I think the Earth's Mightiest Hero's version has a palette closer to what we want and while we likely won't copy it one to one I do think additional elements from it like the belt are really good additions that help break up the design.
I agree that mimicking the MCU in their design choices would probably be for the best (though I would like more purple). That being said I do think specifying that we'd probably be mimicking the costume of the OTL MCU is good for retaining clarity. The Ultimate Marvel version of Hawkeye actually has two costumes one which was loosely adapted to the MCUand one that's an abomination against good costume design and actually looks worse and more ridiculous than his "classic" costume
The worse costume that literally put a bullseye on his forehead is the one that actually stuck around in Ultimate Marvel and I'd go with a classic costume over that mess.
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If you're talking about Hawkeye then yeah I agree with this.
MCU character/costume designers are generally pretty competent across the board in my opinion as I can't think of any character who actively looked "bad" and the worst I can say about them is that some of their character designs were a little boring (Of the top of my head Ultron, Quicksilver, Red Skull, Ronan and the Children of Thanos who aren't Nebula or Gamora are the only designs I think are weaker because of how boring they are and even then most of them are competent designs).
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[X] [Donald] Eric Allan Kramer - Eric is the man who portrayed Thor back in the old Hulk television show, so giving him a role and cameo at the same time could be nice. You're sure he would appreciate being able to appear in the film.
Did I vote yet? Don't think I did...
Did I vote yet? Don't think I did...
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Never! Good Luck Charlie actor ftw!!!
Interlude - Highs and Lows (August 2009)
overmind
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August 2009The Winning Vote said:
You'd always loved being a part of the filming process. Just seeing the entire movie being made, step by step, made you feel like something magical was happening in front of you. If you had your way you'd be sitting right next to the Director seeing it all happen and taking notes in case something could be improved.
Unfortunately that was not something that you could always do when you were a simple producer, much less now that you were Head Producer. Much of your time had to be devoted to the minutia of keeping the entire process running with very little time to see the actual process.
At times it made you feel depressed; all those weeks discussing and preparing for a script with the aid of Directors and Writers, and not be allowed to see anything until just before it had to be presented. It made you feel like it was for nothing.
At least you could check the reports for how the filming was going, and so far the expectations were positive. Thanks to Marvel's overall approval and help with the budget they were certain that they could finish earlier than expected. Good news indeed, considering how anxious the rest of the Executives at Marvel had been about releasing the film. Almost as if they knew something was coming.
At least the actors were getting along; Jason and Tom had become fast friends bonding over their children, and Tom's apparent desire to wow them when they see him on screen. Tatiana has mostly remained in her trailer practicing her lines, while Eric is more relaxed, though amused at acting the character he played so many years ago. That's better than Gal though, as her accent kept getting in the way when saying her lines.
Well, at least they're having fun. Someone has to after the incredible shit show that was the last few months.
Interviews Roll: 27
Your interview with Collider started well enough, giving information about yourself and your previous experiences. But when it got to the part about you actual films you let your enthusiasm get away from your control, spending more time speaking about what you hoped these movies would achieve than what they were about.
You only stopped when you ran out of time and had to be told so. Needless to say hardly any new enthusiasm for the movie was generated.
Promotion Roll: 49
You had much better luck in Comic Con, after all these were your kind of people and they spoke your language! You had an entire presentation about the previous films, your experiences with the actors and Directors, as well as the future for Marvel Studios.
You received quite the support when you announced the next movie would be about Hawkeye, though it was marred somewhat when you had to spend most of the time answering questions about when will the Iron man sequel would come up, and if there would be more movies about Hulk.
Oh well, every little bit counts.
Network with Marvel Executives: 82
Your interactions with the executives at Marvel when swimmingly in comparison. You managed to discuss so many different ways that the characters in hand could be used and even plans to regain others. When it came to budget you just stayed quiet though; you knew very well how trying to part money from Marvel at this point was like trying to draw blood from a rampaging tiger: In the end, there were easier and less painful ways to commit suicide.
It got to the point that you were even told of some secret negotiations going around between the Heads of Marvel and Disney at the moment. The success of Iron Man and Hulk convincing the Mouse that there was something to the whole Superhero movies business.
You were torn in a way; Having Disney as the new boss would mean less concern about the budget, and also would be a great draw to a greater demographic. Plus, actors would be clamoring to appear in movies that had the backing of such a huge company behind them.
On the other hand there would certainly be more restrictions added in order to keep their family friendly image. Not to mention they might think to put more bureaucracy to contain, or limit, your current position. You know very well that, despite your current attempts at currying favor, you have few friends in Marvel.
Not that it mattered as the news was given just before the announcement was made.
Disney Negotiations: 3
The negotiations fell through.
What the fuck happened! Was your first thought...as well as your second and third. The whole thing seemed like it was a done deal, like it the only thing needed was to sign in the dotted line, how the heck did a sure thing became one whole mess of a broken deal.
Your new friends tell you all in excruciating detail, and you can't help but face palm at the absurdity of it all.
They all got too greedy.
The success of Iron man convinced Marvel that they could make mint on their characters, and as such could make greater demands of Disney at the negotiation table. Suddenly, the 4 billion deal offered wasn't enough, which angered Disney at having to pay more for what they assumed to be a more than fair deal, as Marvel was certainly not Pixar.
The result: Both sides walked away unhappy with the other.
...You're just sure this is going to bite you in the ass sooner or later.
You reach for the report on Hawkeye to distract you. The work was never done.
A.N:…I don't know what to say at this point. We're moving on to Hawkeye now.
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Oh... wow, so that's... yeah. I guess we'll need to get more authority in Marvel so that we have more pull in the future. Because otherwise we're reliant on heads that will continue to make bullheaded decisions like this.
Duke William of
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RAAAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!!!! That's what we get for getting 2 nat 100s...
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Yes the eternal all consuming mouse has been beaten back! Victory!
For now this will do but one day we shall truly slay that terrible rodent! Just you wait! Failing to eat us will prove to be there undoing!
For now this will do but one day we shall truly slay that terrible rodent! Just you wait! Failing to eat us will prove to be there undoing!
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hey universal ☎️ ☎️ ☎️ how ya doin big guy want to help us gut the mouse
Duke William of
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On the topic of Hawkeye, I just keep getting the oddest ideas for the actors.
Like, I'm thinking of Michael Keaton as Swordsman, and... I'll fill you all in later.
Like, I'm thinking of Michael Keaton as Swordsman, and... I'll fill you all in later.
I think that's what the quest is about, Blaz. Us being this Marvel's Feige.
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Obviously it's just our execs being grasping fucks, but let's make it so that in ten years ITTL the idea that Disney tried to join up with the MCU for only 4 billion sounds like a disgusting lowball. 
Duke William of
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Yes. We will make their offer look like tap water in terms of our revenue.Obviously it's just our execs being grasping fucks, but let's make it so that in ten years ITTL the idea that Disney tried to join up with the MCU for only 4 billion sounds like a disgusting lowball.
I for one fail to see how not joining Disney is a bad thing. At least we should avoid the political nonsense Disney later gets involved in.
I for one don't mind giving the middle finger to the mouse for all the crap Disney has been doing to Star Wars. Not even going into their horrible and unnecessary remakes over the next decade.
I for one don't mind giving the middle finger to the mouse for all the crap Disney has been doing to Star Wars. Not even going into their horrible and unnecessary remakes over the next decade.