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There Was A Different Idea: An MCU Producer Quest

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[] [Thor] Tom Hopper - He came to your attention mainly because of his towering physique, though his few performances in other TV series are not bad either. He's not someone recognizable yet, so it might hurt sales somewhat, but you're sure he has a bright future ahead of him. You'll need to convince Marvel of this though (Negotiation Roll)
[] [Loki] Tom Ellis - He's a good actor, as he's only been in the business for a decade he's made some impression, but not a memorable one yet. He has expressed a deep interest in playing the part, and has discussed on some of the more playful and manipulative aspects of the character. Not as memorable as other actors, but you think he has what it takes.
[] [Odin] Brendan Gleeson - Brendan has been in acting since the early 90's, and you still remember him for his role in Mel Gibson's Braveheart. He has played Shakespearean tragedies as much as comedies, and his tall heavy figure just complement what's beneath.
[] [Laufey] Ian McShane - Ian has a history of playing villains, anti-heroes, scoundrels, and you're pretty sure that there is a king somewhere in as well. You managed to get him interested in the project, now to see if he can do something with it.
[] [Heimdall] Vladimir Kulich - A Czechoslovakian-born Canadian with a reputation for playing Viking characters well and often, Vladimir certainly has the look of a bad-ass Viking who could also be a member of Odin's older generation.
[] [Sif] Gal Gadot – The former Miss Israel from 2004, she has just finished the filming for the fourth installment of The Fast and the Furious franchise, but aside from that there has been nothing of note about her.
[] [Donald] Brendan Fraser - He has a reputation as a lovable goof in many of his movies, and you're sure he can bring it to the role as well. He hasn't had much success since the mummy films, but he's still a recognizable actor.
[] [Foster] Tatiana Maslany – A…Canadian (it's in the same continent, so it counts as American!), Maslany has had the longest career but perhaps made less of a splash than her competition. She's more experienced a least.

I think that Gleeson and McShane are a good pair of kings to have opposed to one another, personally. Tom Ellis as Loki makes a lot of sense, given the arrogance/torment/roguish charisma the role benefits from. For Thor, I really don't vibe with triple H, and Momoa is fine but the look doesn't feel right for me, so Hopper still looks good despite the roll.
 
overmind said:
@Nystical, @Duke William of , Tom Hopper is a Hard Negotiation Roll, he's too green for the studio to accept that easily. Sorry, I meant to change it in the morning, but it slipped by.
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What about Liam Hemsworth, is he available?

Qudrim8054 said:
Can't choose who I want for the roles. On the one hand, Murphy is a great choice for Loki, but on the other hand so is Ellis. Oh, I can't pick.
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How about Cillian as Laufey, instead? Actor Dissonance with Dark Knight would be somewhat avoided, due to him wearing makeup.
 
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overmind said:
@Nystical, @Duke William of , Tom Hopper is a Hard Negotiation Roll, he's too green for the studio to accept that easily. Sorry, I meant to change it in the morning, but it slipped by.

Denied, currently filming for Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 1.
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Dammit, WB.

We'd really need someone with an intimidating stage presence for Laufey. Unless Christopher Lee is available and willing to do an actiony movie at his age, I'd probably go with McShane.
 
[X] [Thor] Jason Momoa - His latest role was that of Ronon Dex in the series Stargate: Atlantis and he has the look nearly down for the role. He initially had no interest in auditioning, thinking it was just another "dumb barbarian" role. One entire day talking to him, and then looking at the script convinced him to give it a try. He has since come around to the idea of playing the God of Thunder.
[X] [Loki] Tom Ellis - He's a good actor, as he's only been in the business for a decade he's made some impression, but not a memorable one yet. He has expressed a deep interest in playing the part, and has discussed on some of the more playful and manipulative aspects of the character. Not as memorable as other actors, but you think he has what it takes.
[X] [Odin] Brendan Gleeson - Brendan has been in acting since the early 90's, and you still remember him for his role in Mel Gibson's Braveheart. He has played Shakespearean tragedies as much as comedies, and his tall heavy figure just complement what's beneath.
[X] [Laufey] Ian McShane - Ian has a history of playing villains, anti-heroes, scoundrels, and you're pretty sure that there is a king somewhere in as well. You managed to get him interested in the project, now to see if he can do something with it.
[X] [Heimdall] Vladimir Kulich - A Czechoslovakian-born Canadian with a reputation for playing Viking characters well and often, Vladimir certainly has the look of a bad-ass Viking who could also be a member of Odin's older generation.
[X] [Sif] Gal Gadot – The former Miss Israel from 2004, she has just finished the filming for the fourth installment of The Fast and the Furious franchise, but aside from that there has been nothing of note about her.
[X] [Donald] Eric Allan Kramer - Eric is the man who portrayed Thor back in the old Hulk television show, so giving him a role and cameo at the same time could be nice. You're sure he would appreciate being able to appear in the film.
[X] [Donald] Sam Neill (Wite-In)
[X] [Foster] Tatiana Maslany – A…Canadian (it's in the same continent, so it counts as American!), Maslany has had the longest career but perhaps made less of a splash than her competition. She's more experienced a least.

[X] Plan Hype & Networking
-[X] Participate in interviews and events in order to hype future movies. (Roll)
-[X] Promote a character for one of the upcoming movies.
--[X] Write In: Hawkeye
-[X] Network with Marvel Executives (Roll)

I think being in interviews ourselves could be a good way to raise our prestige and thus in the long run help us be chosen to replace Ike when he makes a dumb decision like in OTL.
 
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[X] [Thor] Jason Momoa
[X] [Loki] Charlie Cox
[X] [Odin] Brian Blessed
[X] [Laufey] Ian McShane
[X] [Heimdall] Tom Hopper
[X] [Sif] Gal Gadot
[X] [Donald] Brendan Fraser
[X] [Foster] Tatiana Maslany

[X] Plan Hype & Networking
-[X] Participate in interviews and events in order to hype future movies. (Roll)
-[X] Promote a character for one of the upcoming movies.
--[X] Write In: Hawkeye
-[X] Network with Marvel Executives (Roll)
 
[X] [Thor] Jason Momoa - His latest role was that of Ronon Dex in the series Stargate: Atlantis and he has the look nearly down for the role. He initially had no interest in auditioning, thinking it was just another "dumb barbarian" role. One entire day talking to him, and then looking at the script convinced him to give it a try. He has since come around to the idea of playing the God of Thunder.
[X] [Loki] Tom Ellis - He's a good actor, as he's only been in the business for a decade he's made some impression, but not a memorable one yet. He has expressed a deep interest in playing the part, and has discussed on some of the more playful and manipulative aspects of the character. Not as memorable as other actors, but you think he has what it takes.
[X] [Odin] Brendan Gleeson - Brendan has been in acting since the early 90's, and you still remember him for his role in Mel Gibson's Braveheart. He has played Shakespearean tragedies as much as comedies, and his tall heavy figure just complement what's beneath.
[X] [Laufey] Ian McShane - Ian has a history of playing villains, anti-heroes, scoundrels, and you're pretty sure that there is a king somewhere in as well. You managed to get him interested in the project, now to see if he can do something with it.
[X] [Heimdall] Vladimir Kulich - A Czechoslovakian-born Canadian with a reputation for playing Viking characters well and often, Vladimir certainly has the look of a bad-ass Viking who could also be a member of Odin's older generation.
[X] [Sif] Gal Gadot – The former Miss Israel from 2004, she has just finished the filming for the fourth installment of The Fast and the Furious franchise, but aside from that there has been nothing of note about her.
[X] [Donald] Sam Neill (Wite-In)
[X] [Foster] Tatiana Maslany – A…Canadian (it's in the same continent, so it counts as American!), Maslany has had the longest career but perhaps made less of a splash than her competition. She's more experienced a least.

[X] Plan Hype & Networking
 
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Whoo casting thoughts time!

Tom Hopper as Thor: He looks the part and has experience playing norse adjacent stuff IRL with Game of Thrones, Northmen, Barbarians Rising and Merlin. He also did superhero adjacent stuff with Umbrella Academy and I think he could pull off a bit of the arrogant going from his performance there. The negotiation roll is a bit worrying

Paul Levesque as Thor: The least WWE related role he has ever had is a Scooby-Doo movie. The QM's post specifically challenges his acting capabilities. I see no reason to go for him over an actual actor for this role especially when our two other options are better.

Jason Momoa as Thor: Looks the part, can play barbarian adjacent roles and is extra funny because he played Aquaman in the OTL. I think he's a good safe option if we don't want to gamble on Hopper

Cillian Murphy as Loki: I think he could play the role but again he's too recognizable. I just cannot in good conscious go for him here.

Charlie Cox as Loki: He's OTL's Daredevil. I don't believe he's played many villainous roles and the initial post questions his ability to pull off Loki. Again I've got no particularly strong feelings but nothing about him stands out as worth going for here.

Tom Ellis as Loki: So in OTL he plays DC comics Lucifer. I don't know how good he is but I buy him physically more as Loki and I think there's a bit more overlap between Loki and Lucifer and Loki and Daredevil. I'd probably go for him as my pick in that regard.

Sean Bean as Odin: Why does Odin get all of the best actors? I like Sean Bean a lot. I do think that the fact that it's a smaller role that doesn't have him die violently attracting him is a bit of a red flag for sequel stuff but I think he's the best choice for the movie in the short term at the very least.

Brendan Gleeson as Odin: This guy is Mad-Eye Moody in the Harry Potter films. I think he's a solid pick even if I can't say much about him. Dudes just all around solid and he seems to have no issue doing sequels.

Brian Blessed as Odin: I love Brain Blessed I really do but I actually think his voice is too iconic (you instantly know when you're hearing Brian Blessed) and he's a lot more of a voice actor than a physical actor. Not to knock on voice actors but I don't quite see him pulling it off

Cillian Murphy as Laufey: He could pull off the role but the little blurb about needing to redo fight scenes does concern me. If I didn't like the other choice more I'd probably go for him

Ian McShane as Laufey: Ian McShane has classical training to bring gravitas to the role and he's got a lot of experience playing vaguely villainous and morally ambiguous characters. I think he's the better choice of the two

Tom Hopper as Heimdall: A lot of what works in Hopper's favor for Thor, being young and able to play arrogant, doesn't really work for Heimdall. He's not bad per se but I don't love him as a casting choice

Vladimir Kulich as Heimdall: He's older, has a good look for the role and is capable of playing intimidating as necessary. I think he's the better of the two choices

Gal Godot as Sif: Gal Godot looks more like comics Sif, she can play the leading role competently if we want to spin her off into her own thing and I think casting OTL's Wonder Woman is kind of amusing. She can probably do the action well enough as well. Her accent might stick out like a sore thumb

Katheryn Winnick as Sif: She got big in Vikings and looks the part of a stereotypical viking woman but she actually doesn't look all that much like the comics character. Not a huge fan of the casting decision but I also don't think she's a bad one either.

Brendan Fraser as Donald Blake: Too recognizable in my opinion leading to actor dissonance. It's been years and I still see Brendan Fraser as just Brendan Fraser

Eric Allan Kramer: Don't know much about his acting capabilities but I think he's way less recognizable and it is nice to include a little nod to fans of old Marvel stuff.

Tuppence Middleton as Jane Foster: I don't have many strong feelings one way or another but apparently she's good.

Tatiana Maslany as Jane Foster: I also don't have many strong feelings about her as an actress but I do know she's OTL's She-Hulk so she is willing to do superhero stuff. That edges her out over Middleton in my eyes.
 
[X] Plan Hype & Networking

I've got nothing to say on this front as Nystical's more or less given the plan I'd have gone with.

Now for actors

[X] [Thor] Jason Momoa - His latest role was that of Ronon Dex in the series Stargate: Atlantis and he has the look nearly down for the role. He initially had no interest in auditioning, thinking it was just another "dumb barbarian" role. One entire day talking to him, and then looking at the script convinced him to give it a try. He has since come around to the idea of playing the God of Thunder.

[X] [Loki] Tom Ellis - He's a good actor, as he's only been in the business for a decade he's made some impression, but not a memorable one yet. He has expressed a deep interest in playing the part, and has discussed on some of the more playful and manipulative aspects of the character. Not as memorable as other actors, but you think he has what it takes.

[X] [Odin] Brendan Gleeson - Brendan has been in acting since the early 90's, and you still remember him for his role in Mel Gibson's Braveheart. He has played Shakespearean tragedies as much as comedies, and his tall heavy figure just complement what's beneath.

[X] [Laufey] Ian McShane - Ian has a history of playing villains, anti-heroes, scoundrels, and you're pretty sure that there is a king somewhere in as well. You managed to get him interested in the project, now to see if he can do something with it.

[X] [Heimdall] Vladimir Kulich - A Czechoslovakian-born Canadian with a reputation for playing Viking characters well and often, Vladimir certainly has the look of a bad-ass Viking who could also be a member of Odin's older generation.

[X] [Sif] Gal Gadot – The former Miss Israel from 2004, she has just finished the filming for the fourth installment of The Fast and the Furious franchise, but aside from that there has been nothing of note about her.

[X] [Donald] Eric Allan Kramer - Eric is the man who portrayed Thor back in the old Hulk television show, so giving him a role and cameo at the same time could be nice. You're sure he would appreciate being able to appear in the film.

[X] [Donald] Sam Neill (Wite-In)

[X] [Foster] Tatiana Maslany – A…Canadian (it's in the same continent, so it counts as American!), Maslany has had the longest career but perhaps made less of a splash than her competition. She's more experienced a least.

Edit: For me the only hard picks were Odin and Laufey. Hopper's not worth a hard negotiation roll and Momoa can act and do superhero stuff and be fun, I preferred Ellis' look for Loki and think his OTL acting translates more cleanly to the character, Kulich just looks more the part I'd want Heimdall to have, Brendan Fraser is too iconic, Gal's a good actress and looks the part of the character and I think it's really funny when combined with casting Momoa and Maslany is more willing to do superhero stuff from what I can tell.

I think Gleeson is the best actor who'd be willing to return and do multiple movies without a fuss, Blessed is more a voice actor and is really iconic at that leading to potential dissonance.

I think McShane edges out Murphy due to being a lot more physically imposing and doesn't require redoing fight scenes.

Edit #2: I do not want Brendan Fraser to win so I edited my vote to include Sam Neil as another option that's not him.
 
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Might I suggest Sam Neill as Donald Blake to everyone? To be honest, I don't know why I want him, I just think he could do well in a scientist role since he played Alan Grant, although he might be a bit too recognizable.
 
Duke William of said:
Might I suggest Sam Neill as Donald Blake to everyone? To be honest, I don't know why I want him, I just think he could do well in a scientist role since he played Alan Grant, although he might be a bit too recognizable.
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I vastly prefer him over Fraser so I'll include him in my vote sure.

Edit: On top of the actor dissonance stuff with Fraser which I think is a big problem I'd rather not redo what happened in Charcolt's quest and cast Fraser as Donald Blake again.

Edit#2: Brendan Fraser last played his character from the Mummy in 2008 so the actor dissonance is almost certainly going to be really bad.
 
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As long as we can use Frasee for something else...

Perhaps Count Nefaria? He would be old enough for the part potentially.
 
King crimson said:
Edit: On top of the actor dissonance stuff with Fraser which I think is a big problem I'd rather not redo what happened in Charcolt's quest and cast Fraser as Donald Blake again.
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Yeah, me too. Nothing against him, of course. In the future, though, I'd like him do something akin to his Robot Man portrayal in Doom Patrol. I've only seen clips of the show, though, not the whole thing.

Nystical said:
As long as we can use Frasee for something else...

Perhaps Count Nefaria? He would be old enough for the part potentially.
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I'm sorry, but I really can't see him in that role. Also, Viggo Mortensen would be better as Nefaria, in my opinion.
 
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Nystical said:
As long as we can use Frasee for something else...

Perhaps Count Nefaria? He would be old enough for the part potentially.
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I don't quite buy him as a villain though and I don't think he's nearly intimidating enough for Nefaria.

I'm not averse to hiring him later down the line though. I think once we reach 2013-ish he suddenly becomes way more viable a casting choice for a supporting cast member or even a lead.
 
Casting Sean Bean as Odin encourages me to give him a badass scene in a future film that highlights, "Oh shit, that's Odin."

Second... where are my Hemsworths and Hiddleston?!?! This is an outrage, it's unfair! How can you be Marvel and yet not have a Hemsworth?!
 
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Tom Hopper is still pretty much an unknown to this day. So not only is he a complete gamble when it comes to being a main character, we'd need to do a hard negotiation roll to get him. No.

Paul Levesque, I'd really rather not. There are only like three wrestlers turned actors that have achieved any sort of real success, and none of them are typecast like Thor.

Jason Momoa is someone I was initially against, but there's some potential here depending on the version of Thor we're going with. As often as he gets brooding roles, Momoa's character is far more light hearted generally. So I could see him doing an alright Thor, as long as it was something like Taika Waititi's version.

Any bright ideas for a write-in? I'm already feeling the pain of getting a bad casting roll.

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Cillian Murphy is interesting to see again. Part me wants to jump on the opportunity, even if I'm unsure about how well he fits.

Charlie Cox is another interesting one to see. I think he did an amazing job as Daredevil, and that roll required a dry wit as a lawyer. Honestly, part of me prefers Charlie over Cillian so far.

Tom Ellis, though, seems far more in line with what I see from OTL Loki. I'm interested to see what you guys think about this, but I could see us going for this guy.

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Sean Bean as Odin, huh. Part of me is put off by his flippant attitude, but him not dying at the end is an opening for further appearances. So maybe that's not as much of a problem as it would first appear? I keep on thinking of his performance of Ned Stark, but I want to look through the others before settling.

Brendan Gleeson is someone I don't normally see take on a more serious role. Then again, Odin isn't getting the most screen time and I can see him doing well in back and forths with Loki. Aside from that, his portfolio speaks for itself.

Brian Blessed, I really don't know. I'm not seeing anything that makes me think Odin, and experience doesn't mean he's a great actor. He's also 5'9.

On the whole, I favor Gleeson.

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What is with this, Murphy again for Laufey? He can do dark and brooding, and he's young enough that he could do the physical stuff. Then again, Ian McShane sounds like he'd do a great job monologuing about life on 'the dark and sunless land' of Jotunheim. This is tough, because they seem like these two are better at different parts of Laufey. Then again, you can't really do better when you simply lack the physicality for perform a role. So maybe it's best to take this opportunity to get Murphy. Thoughts? Write-ins?

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Huh, lots of repeats this time around. Though on this count, I feel like Heimdall is a much safer role for someone like Tom Hopper. Also, it's good for him because this is a character that'll be showing up multiple times in different movies. Coming out strong here.

Vladimir Kulich is a complete unknown to me, but he seems like a better fit when it comes to age. Also, this is just Heimdall. So we have room to get some wildcards in here.

Hopper is someone I favor, because he's a somewhat known variable. That said, I'll defer to anyone's knowledge of Kulich.

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Gal Gadot seems like she could do it, but…

Katheryn Winnick is the pick by far. On her performance in Vikings alone. I was wondering who would work for Sif, and Winnick did great in a very similar role.

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I could go for either option for Donald Blake. Brenden Fraser is incredibly lovable, and while Eric Allan Kramer is more of a wildcard to me I'm sure the cameo would be appreciated. I'll leave this one up to you guys.

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Tuppence Middleton remains pretty much unknown to this day, even with quite a few appearances in minor rolls. I can't find anything good, and so the quiet is damning.

Tatiana Maslany seems like she has a lot of experience in romance, and got awards for her performance in Orphan Black. Though that doesn't really translate to Jane Foster.

"Sarah is a street-wise woman with a troubled past…always strives to do right by daughter Kira. When Sarah witnesses the suicide of Beth, a woman who looks like her, she decides to steal Beth's identity -- boyfriend and money included…But assuming Beth's life -- Sarah eventually learns that Beth was her clone -- doesn't go as smoothly as she anticipates because Beth was a cop caught in the middle of a deadly conspiracy…"

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I really don't know about this one. I hope this write up helps. Anyone got bright ideas for write-ins?
 
X] [Thor] Jason Momoa - His latest role was that of Ronon Dex in the series Stargate: Atlantis and he has the look nearly down for the role. He initially had no interest in auditioning, thinking it was just another "dumb barbarian" role. One entire day talking to him, and then looking at the script convinced him to give it a try. He has since come around to the idea of playing the God of Thunder.

[X] [Loki] Tom Ellis - He's a good actor, as he's only been in the business for a decade he's made some impression, but not a memorable one yet. He has expressed a deep interest in playing the part, and has discussed on some of the more playful and manipulative aspects of the character. Not as memorable as other actors, but you think he has what it takes.

[X] [Odin] Brendan Gleeson - Brendan has been in acting since the early 90's, and you still remember him for his role in Mel Gibson's Braveheart. He has played Shakespearean tragedies as much as comedies, and his tall heavy figure just complement what's beneath.

[X] [Laufey] Ian McShane - Ian has a history of playing villains, anti-heroes, scoundrels, and you're pretty sure that there is a king somewhere in as well. You managed to get him interested in the project, now to see if he can do something with it.

[X] [Heimdall] Vladimir Kulich - A Czechoslovakian-born Canadian with a reputation for playing Viking characters well and often, Vladimir certainly has the look of a bad-ass Viking who could also be a member of Odin's older generation.

[X] [Sif] Gal Gadot – The former Miss Israel from 2004, she has just finished the filming for the fourth installment of The Fast and the Furious franchise, but aside from that there has been nothing of note about her.

[X] [Donald] Eric Allan Kramer - Eric is the man who portrayed Thor back in the old Hulk television show, so giving him a role and cameo at the same time could be nice. You're sure he would appreciate being able to appear in the film.

[X] [Donald] Sam Neill (Write-In)

[X] [Foster] Tatiana Maslany – A…Canadian (it's in the same continent, so it counts as American!), Maslany has had the longest career but perhaps made less of a splash than her competition. She's more experienced a least.

[X] Plan Hype & Networking
 
Vokivas said:
Brendan Gleeson is someone I don't normally see take on a more serious role. Then again, Odin isn't getting the most screen time and I can see him doing well in back and forths with Loki. Aside from that, his portfolio speaks for itself.
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I don't exactly know what you'd consider a "more serious role" but he was in Braveheart, Gangs of New York, the Raven, Beowulf, In the Heart of the Sea and The Tragedy of Macbeth, none of which are particularly comedic movies. He has done serious acting in his filmography.
Vokivas said:
What is with this, Murphy again for Laufey? He can do dark and brooding, and he's young enough that he could do the physical stuff. Then again, Ian McShane sounds like he'd do a great job monologuing about life on 'the dark and sunless land' of Jotunheim. This is tough, because they seem like these two are better at different parts of Laufey. Then again, you can't really do better when you simply lack the physicality for perform a role. So maybe it's best to take this opportunity to get Murphy. Thoughts? Write-ins?
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When the casting on Murphy as Laufey specifically says "Now, how to fix the fight scenes?" that very much makes me doubt he can do the physical stuff and that he lacks the physicality necessary. As such the biggest proponent for why you ought to cast Murphy kind of goes away.
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Katheryn Winnick is the pick by far. On her performance in Vikings alone. I was wondering who would work for Sif, and Winnick did great in a very similar role.
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Her role in Vikings was significantly different from Sif in the comics. All of the maternal elements as well as the bloodthirstiness and ambition are not at all present in Sif. Winnick did great in a superficially similar but actually fairly different role in a different format.

She also simply doesn't look the part which is another knock against her.

Edit: I'd buy her more as a more combat oriented Amora than I would as Sif.
 
[X] [Thor] Jason Momoa - His latest role was that of Ronon Dex in the series Stargate: Atlantis and he has the look nearly down for the role. He initially had no interest in auditioning, thinking it was just another "dumb barbarian" role. One entire day talking to him, and then looking at the script convinced him to give it a try. He has since come around to the idea of playing the God of Thunder.

[X] [Loki] Tom Ellis - He's a good actor, as he's only been in the business for a decade he's made some impression, but not a memorable one yet. He has expressed a deep interest in playing the part, and has discussed on some of the more playful and manipulative aspects of the character. Not as memorable as other actors, but you think he has what it takes.

[X] [Odin] Brendan Gleeson - Brendan has been in acting since the early 90's, and you still remember him for his role in Mel Gibson's Braveheart. He has played Shakespearean tragedies as much as comedies, and his tall heavy figure just complement what's beneath.

[X] [Heimdall] Tom Hopper - Huh, also auditioning for this role, and the Marvel executives would see nothing wrong as their eye is firmly on the main characters at the moment. The kid's not bad, and you're sure that he could do something with the character.

[X] [Donald] Eric Allan Kramer - Eric is the man who portrayed Thor back in the old Hulk television show, so giving him a role and cameo at the same time could be nice. You're sure he would appreciate being able to appear in the film.

Of these I'm quite confident in, the Odin family all feel strong and good for the roles, the only knock I have is Momoa has dark hair and Comic Thor is traditionally blond but in the mythology Thor is a red head, so what would be the problem if we go with a different hair color Thor for the movies? (I don't think Momoa will look good with a blond wig or hair bleaching personally.

Heimdall feels like a safe place for Tom Hopper right now, though I also may look into some alternates there because I think like on OTL Heimdall is fine to cast outside of White actors, as long as you get someone who can demonstrate the physical presence.

And for Donald, Kramer feels appropriate for an ex Thor to be the actor for Donald Blake, when they shared a body for quite some time. Its a fun nod.

Then we get to the harder stuff, I really like both Cillian Murphy and Ian McShane. The weird thing is I find myself wanting MORE from Ian McShane than just Laufey, but then Cillian Murphy is suggested as maybe not being able to perform the fights in the role convincingly and that is a huge concern. Given that I think McShane is the better choice, and maybe we can find another use for Laufey in the future, also I think that would player better off Gleeson.

[X] [Laufey] Ian McShane - Ian has a history of playing villains, anti-heroes, scoundrels, and you're pretty sure that there is a king somewhere in as well. You managed to get him interested in the project, now to see if he can do something with it.

For Sif both would play the role well, I sort of think Winnick may perform the role a bit better, but there is a part of me that goes "ooh take Wonder Woman AND Aquaman from DC." Both would be good and as such I don't really mind who wins here.

Finally we get to Jane Foster I'm more familiar with Middleton, but Maslany is OTL's She-Hulk so that suggests something, however I do think Middleton can do the role, but its a difficult one, I'd certainly be up to looking for write-ins here because I just don't know Maslany, and despite having faith in Middleton she is very green right now.

[X] [Foster] Tuppence Middleton – A green actress who's gained a bit of a following. The main issue is…well... she's green as grass! And do you really want a non-American for the role?

[X] Plan Hype & Networking

The only thing I'd want to maybe do is network for Actors, but this is fine and logical.
 
King crimson said:
I don't exactly know what you'd consider a "more serious role" but he was in Braveheart, Gangs of New York, the Raven, Beowulf, In the Heart of the Sea and The Tragedy of Macbeth, none of which are particularly comedic movies. He has done serious acting in his filmography.
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I guess it wasn't made clear, but I was thinking of someone more brooding and contemplative. Gleeson does serious stuff, but even with those characters he tends to have a prescience due to something like cynical wit. Which isn't the more refined version of Odin we get OTL, and is someone closer to Sean Bean's Ned Stark. That said, I still favor Gleeson. I'm sure his version of Odin will work, and probably even be better for it. Coming across as jovial to his family, but is belligerent to perceived enemies. Just throwing things out there.
King crimson said:
When the casting on Murphy as Laufey specifically says "Now, how to fix the fight scenes?" that very much makes me doubt he can do the physical stuff and that he lacks the physicality necessary. As such the biggest proponent for why you ought to cast Murphy kind of goes away.
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Out of Ian McShan and Cillian Murphy, which one is going to be doing fight scenes? The young man that has the health to learn and refine his technique, or the old guy far past his prime. McShane would be excellent for the overall character, but he totally lacks the ability to do any action scenes at all. Unless the idea is to do something like Hulk movies, and have the fights be entirely CG. That being the case, Murphy just makes sense. Unless there's a great write-in.
King crimson said:
Her role in Vikings was significantly different from Sif in the comics. All of the maternal elements as well as the bloodthirstiness and ambition are not at all present in Sif. Winnick did great in a superficially similar but actually fairly different role in a different format.

She also simply doesn't look the part which is another knock against her.
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I mean, maybe. If you think Gal Gadot's Wonder Woman is a better match to Sif, and her intended character, then fair enough.

Also, about the looks:

'Katheryn Winnick seems to have the look of a fearsome blonde warrior woman down.'

That's what I saw, and I took that to mean that Sif was another character that wasn't necessarily an exact match between their comic version and the MCU version. Looking it up now, I see that she's always had dark hair.

That said, on the whole, I'm okay with Sif not being just like Wonder Woman. Isn't the whole point about her falling out with Thor is how he can't reconcile her actions with her behavior in the war? Wouldn't it make less sense then, if Sif was like a paladin in her demeanor? With Gleeson also making a spin on the more refined Odin, I'm totally for doing the same with other characters.

Even then, I feel like it's really unfair to Winnick to imply that she's limited to what she did as Lagertha. Heck, one of the best parts of that show is how all of the different characters grow. She goes from farmer wife, to shield maiden, to warrior queen. If she needs lean more towards something more chivalrous, then I have total confidence that she can do that.

It all comes down to dice in the end, but I suppose my reason is basically the same for Sif and Odin. Sean Bean and Gal Gadot would portray more refined versions, while Gleeson and Winnick would put more of a viking spin on things.

E: If the blonde hair is such a problem, that could instead be used as an opportunity to reference the origin behind her black hair. Loki cut her hair, and got dwarven smiths to make her a replacement. But because he didn't pay for golden hair, i.e. blonde, they gave black hair. Which could even work with the version of Thor we're going with. Since he's just growing up, there hasn't been enough time for that whole thing with Loki to happen with. Even then, I still feel like hair color is generally a non issue.
 
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