There Was A Different Idea: An MCU Producer Quest

Loving this quest. One thing I think we may have problems with is we seem to have reached post-first Avengers movie levels of hype before The Avengers. So like, imagine the amount of expectations Avengers is going to have on it from all corners.
For sure, the final production stats show what is needed to make just as good of a movie. The average score is above 80, so we're going to need just as good rolls. Considering the fickle nature of the RNGods. It's going to be...dicey to say the least.

(I'll take my leave now)
 
I'd also like to mention how October is technically a dump month for movies, yet we're already making a net profit of nearly a billion dollars during this month.

For sure, the final production stats show what is needed to make just as good of a movie.
Fortunately, Avi's production company is joining next year, which means we'll probably get the resources needed to get high production rolls.
 
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I'd also like to mention how October is technically a dump month for movies, yet we're already making a net profit of nearly a billion dollars during this month.

October? A dump month? I mean, I guess that's a per-country thing but in the U.S. the dump months are generally January-February and August-September. October is our prime movie time, just before Christmas and Black Friday for better sales along with all our horror movies being aimed at Halloween.

August-September is usually considered too late to take advantage of the summer craze and too early to take advantage of the holidays. Jan-Feb has the opposite issue, too early for summer and too late for the holidays.
 
October? A dump month? I mean, I guess that's a per-country thing but in the U.S. the dump months are generally January-February and August-September. October is our prime movie time, just before Christmas and Black Friday for better sales along with all our horror movies being aimed at Halloween.
Shoot, I misremembered what StarSerpent said. Yeah, you're right that October isn't a dump month, though I wouldn't call it prime movie time, just a decent time for movies to be released.
 
Does anyone want to make an omake about Warner Bros executives and Kevin Feige reacting to Iron Man 2's smashing success? I can help brainstorm, lol.
 
Is Marvel still in the red? Or could we maybe look to getting back the rights of the characters that Fox owns?

I can't imagine so, at least to the degree that it was before. Marvel was purchased by Disney in 2009 for 4 billion dollars in real life, that's it. We made with one movie a fourth of what Marvel would have been worth a year ago in-quest.

At this point in time according to historical stock data... the entirety of 20th Century Fox would be worth 18.3 billion dollars, according to their relative stock price as of the date of Invincible Iron Man in comparison to when they were purchased wholesale by Disney in real life (2019). In other words, with one movie Marvel made enough money to equal an 18th of Fox's net worth, and that is only in box office income. There is still merchandise, ticket sales, and hard copy sales that are not taken into account for box office numbers as they only account for the opening weekend of the film (typically).

That is absolutely insane, I don't know if Marvel could outright purchase all of it's properties back with that kind of dosh... but surely it can't be in the dumps anymore.
 
That reminds me, @overmind, are there any merchandise rolls you make, or is there a specific action we have to take to get merchandise sales?
I try and keep merchandise rolls out since it might be too micromanaging. Just trust me when I say that you are making quite a bit of money out of it.

Marvel may not be completely in the red, but it had a heck of a lot of debt, which it's making an incredibly heroic attempt at paying. However, there is also the fact that they are a comic book company, so the money from movies also has to go there.

You can still try to get the characters back, that was never in doubt.
 
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"There Was A Different Idea: Gareth Evans Quest" by Vocalend
In a different time, there was an idea. An idea actualized in the form of Kevin Feige staying with Marvel despite all the complications that could have – and had – happened. In that different time, Gareth Huw Evans would continue his career in the film industry. After Merantau, he would bring to the forefront the conclusion of his idea. That with a million dollar budget, a small production studio could highlight further a hitherto unknown martial arts style to the big screen. It would've had a modest success, a proof to a concept that would lead to an outpouring of martial artist films and talents from Indonesia, one that ran counter to the time's predominant uses of jump-cuts and pulled punches in stuntworks. Of action choreography hewing to the days of Jackie Chan and Jet Li.

But here, there was a different idea. And with that, came different challenges and opportunities for those walking below the burgeoning titans.

There Was A Different Idea: Gareth Evans Quest
April 2010

"Kompas — Bangku Sinema Masih Penuh! Hawkeye Film Terlaris Seantero Indonesia!"
"JawaPos — Meraup Seratus Billiar Rupiah, Ini Kata Yayan Ruhian Mengenai Hawkeye!"
"Kontan — Mencari Anak Panah Tepat: Kembangkan Sinematografi Nusantara."
"The Jakarta Post — Exclusive Interview with President of PERSILAT: 'There is value in nurturing local talents'."
Evans looked at the pile of newspapers and sighed. Though the better part of him had nothing but happiness for Yayan and indeed, for the goal of introducing Pencak Silat to the world abroad, he can't entirely shake off the envy green. Imagine after all, if talents one discovered, shaped by the desire to truly showcase a niche...

...and then have it taken, lavished with the amount of money he could never prodcure, and choreographed by a direction that while Hollywood-oriented, remained true enough to evoke the martial arts' capabilities. Enough, in fact, to generate such a buzz around martial arts films that led to the biggest reasons that Evans could not entirely let go of the chips on his shoulders.

That clueless watchers have said Hawkeye was the first foray to such films. That his work was swept aside. It ached him, and as he take another sip of the morning coffee, the Welsh director considers his options. Small as his name is at the moment, he will not be outdone. Serbuan Maut, or as the international title goes, The Raid would have to work. Must work. Before others steal his thunder even further.

For starters, XYZ Films wanted to keep at the deal. The buzz around Hawkeye negotiated Evans more leeway, even as they continue to set limit son the budgets for the works they take under their wings. Not that he needed much. At least, he didn't need much before the success of Hawkeye. There are eyes on him that weren't there before. There is something to compare, now. If his plans for a trilogy were to come into fruition, he needs to rethink and reorient. It starts from the script. The original formulation had been to make the first movie to be akin to a 'survival horror', of desperate struggle between trapped members of police squad against an apartment complex filled with junkies and murderers. It would have been self-contained.

It could also be made bigger and more elaborate:
[—] [SCRIPT] Keep it as is. The original idea works, even if further tweaks could – and must – be added.
[—] [SCRIPT] Expand further. The tone could be changed to reflect expectations set by Hawkeye:
-[—] A raid on a 25-storey apartment-cum-drug-compound? It could be styled as a war movie. Make each side-casts deaths more memorable and the adversaries more starker.
-[—] The core of the sequel films required a pivot to a true crime movie. Why not start from 'true crime' angle here? Introduce a tighter cast of characters with differing motivations. Rather than a SWAT team nearly a baker's dozen, a specialized team – excelling in martial arts of course – could be the substitute. And instead of starting from ground floor trying to reach the top, it's the inverse. An escape attempt mired with conflict and drama.
-[—] Maybe there's something else you're missing? [Write-In]

Regarding casting choices, this is where things are going to be harder. Yayan already agreed to keep to a saner rate that's not overly inflated from Hawkeye's success– and if there is one thing that remained Evans core competency, was that he had networked with local talents. And not just ones able to fight on the widescreen, but also ones that could act well. But again, Hawkeye. There are expectations of him putting on foreign talents. No, pressure is the better word for it. Sony already eyed XYZ Films up and through the latter conveyed that having foreign Western talents on the posters could pull in more viewers. On the first, self-contained, movie.

Great.
[—] [CASTING] Keep the talent pool local. Evans owe it to his own vision and the local talents to not invoke screen presence that would be detrimentally overpowering. Plus, Yayan's name is, while not household, notable enough to draw in views. Right? (Hard Negotiation Roll)
[—] [CASTING] Compromise. There are East and South East Asian talents that keeps the film atmosphere something feasibly local while contributing instead of replacing the capabilities of local talents. Tony Jaa might be a reach – especially for the first movie – but with your funding... not impossible. (Normal Negotiation Roll)
[—] [CASTING] Play ball. A foreign liaison could work. An American one would be a stretch but an Australian one? Yes, that could work. Of course, whoever gets picked would have to be good at action. Maybe Chris Hemsworth could be pulled in? With Sony's influence, that is within reach.
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After reading through this Quest, and finding the fact that the QM had catapulted Yayan Ruhian into Hollywood and the rolls cooperated? This Negaverse Omake writes itself. After all, it wouldn't be until 2012 when The Raid, the film to catapult Iko Uwais and Yayan's name to the action-seeking cinephiles, releases out of the Toronto International Film Festival and into public. Here... well, to say that Evans is pressured would be an understatement.

And for translation, scrolling at the newspaper titles give you the English names. But in case one's on phone:
"Kompas — Cinema Seats Still Full! Hawkeye Remains The Best Seller On Indonesian Cinemas!"
Javanese Post — Raking in One Hundred Billion Rupiah, This Is What Yayan Ruhian Said About Hawkeye!"
"Kontan — Picking The Right Arrow: Let Us Develop Indonesian Cinematography."​
 
I try and keep merchandise rolls out since it might be too micromanaging. Just trust me when I say that you are making quite a bit of money out of it.

Marvel may not be completely in the red, but it had a heck of a lot of debt, which it's making an incredibly heroic attempt at paying. However, there is also the fact that they are a comic book company, so the money from movies also has to go there.

You can still try to get the characters back, that was never in doubt.

Nice to know, I wonder if the MCU is seeing a spin-off comic book adaptation yet?

Also, do you think there might be room for an interlude about the start up of the infamous Marvel merchandise engine (or would that be more of an omake thing)? I feel like it could be pretty cool, considering that Avi was a CEO at ToyBiz (a toy company) before it was acquired by Marvel and had later gone on to be in charge of their toys before he'd done a career change to the movie side of things.

It'd be pretty cool to see him return to his roots and rebuild the toymaking part of Marvel Entertainment, even if it didn't get any rolls or whatnot.
 
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Nice to know, I wonder if the MCU is seeing a spin-off comic book adaptation yet?

Also, do you think there might be room for an interlude about the start up of the infamous Marvel merchandise engine (or would that be more of an omake thing)? I feel like it could be pretty cool, considering that Avi was a CEO at ToyBiz (a toy company) before it was acquired by Marvel and had later gone on to be in charge of their toys before he'd done a career change to the movie side of things.

It'd be pretty cool to see him return to his roots and rebuild the toymaking part of Marvel Entertainment, even if it didn't get any rolls or whatnot.
Hmm. I guess Ill leave it to Omakes. If they're good enough I'll even add a bonus.
 
A nearly wonderful movie - Production and Post-Production: Wonder Man (February 2011)
The Winning Vote said:
[x] Plan: Wonderous Wonder Man Movie
-[x] [Simon] Ryan Reynolds
-[x] [Eric] Hayden Christensen
-[x] [Nefaria] Brendan Fraser
-[x] [Parks] Sean Patrick Flannery
-[x] [Laughton] Hamish Linklater
-[x] [Neal] Robin Williams
-[x] Focus on smoothing any obstacles for the Technical Aspects of the production and filming of the movie (Costs all 3 actions)
Technical Aspect

Production Quality:
62
VFX: 37
Choreography: 81
Sound Design: 91
Editing: 63

So long…even with all the support you could give the production it all took so long. Even with your newfound experience and direct aid it still took you nearly a year for the filming to be done. Was this punishment for your previous hubris? How could it be, you were awesome! And yet…

Kevin managed to release another film just before the year ended, with another one to be released on soon.

You can only thank God that it hasn't been Wonder Woman yet.

What you won't thank it's for once more the BLOODY VFX TEAM TO FUCKING FUCK IT ALL UP AGAIN!!!

When you went to berate them you found the area deserted, as if they knew what was going to happen…cowards, you still know where they live.

The bright aspect of the entire production is the music; upbeat, catchy, and it all just screams "Wonder Man" to you, something unique to the character himself. It's what keeps you going when you see the results of combining it with the fight scenes. A true delight for the senses! The cuts could be a bit better, but they are not bad at all, you'd call them above average.

Protagonists

Ryan Reynolds Screen Presence:
98
Kat Dennings Screen Presence: 71
Romance Chemistry: 63

Ryan Reynolds took advantage of the extra time to perfect his delivery, and improved on the already magnificent material. On movement, expression, and outright acting performance there is no one more suited for the role than him. Simon Williams feels like a true character, with true emotions and problems; now he has to deal with having powers and he does so in the most hilarious way possible, all the while finally understanding that it was not the powers what made him Wonder Man, but himself.

Kat struggled a bit with the role, but once she had it she cut loose and managed to become and endearing part of the ensemble. Focused, sarcastic, rebellious but with a moral code and at many points squabbling with Simon, Darcy Lewis' character is fully fleshed out and fully involved in the film. Heck, her scene where she outwitted the Scarecrow by making him think letting her go was his idea is priceless!

And you have to admit, the relationship between both characters fits the mold of the movie. It's not a full blown romance like Tony and Pepper's, or the passion that is shown in The Mighty Thor, but it's something more relatable. Everyone can see there is something there, but both of them don't even seem to notice.

Robin Williams Screen Presence: 106

If Ryan and Kat can be considered amazing, then Robin Williams shows why he is a master at the craft! Every expression, every line is perfectly timed and choreographed to bring out the greatest amount of mirth and emotion. He is Simon's agent, but he's clearly something more; the friend that looks after him, the second father he never knew he needed…and of course the agent who's going to make mint out of representing a Superhero!

Protagonist Chemistry: 96

What do you get when you combine three clearly talented comedy actors together? You get some of the best interactions and comedy that you've done in films so far that what! Ryan, Kat and Robin form almost a trinity upon themselves, with Robin once telling you the entire production has been a blast despite the delays. You can see how fond of each other the trio has become, and you can see how it translates into film.

Antagonists

Hayden Christensen Screen Presence:
92

Hayden seemed despondent at the beginning; he had tried so hard to get the lead and had to content himself with the brother's role. For a moment you feared that it would affect the filming. Yet after a small talk with Brendan he suddenly came with a fire in his eyes and an unbreakable determination on him that pushed him to new heights. His scenes are full of poignancy and tragedy in them, which contrasts perfectly with the overall goofy and fun tone enhancing the film.

Sean Patrick Flannery Screen Presence: 30

If there was a black spot was how Sean got into an accident which required him to be hospitalized for nearly the entire filming. At least his leg is much better now, but most of the footage was somewhat subpar, and it showed him mostly before he became the Living Laser.

Win some and lose some you guess.

Brendan Fraser Screen Presence: 83

But you could not say the same about Brendan at all. His delivery, presence, and enthusiasm have made Nefaria into a fun, if still sinister, villain. He comes as somewhat goofy at first, yet over the movie it's the small details which slowly but surely compound and show what a true monster hides behind the façade.

Hamish Linklater Screen: 8

Hamish, what are you doing?! Hamish stop! Please, just stop!

It might be because you said this was a comedy and he worked in one until recently, but dear God man that doesn't mean turn the character into a complete buffoon!!! Oh God Vaughn is now refusing to even see him in person, and you can't even replace him at this point since the entire film kind of depends on him!

Why, just why!?

Antagonist Chemistry: 96

The overall interaction is magnificent. Brendan and Hayden have formed a true friendship and it's used to its fullest in the film (The Star Wars reference between them is staying, no questions asked!) and helping Sean through his recovery brought the whole team together…yes even Hamish.

Unfortunately.

With the film nearly done, and so little time granted, you still need to make a choice as to what to do with the Stone. Matthew told you that he originally would have preferred for the Maggia to keep it so as to keep them as a threat. You could find a different way though.

[] [Stone] Just go with Vaughn's idea and have the Maggia recover the Power Stone.
[] [Stone] SHIELD could be seen at the end finding the stone and safeguarding it.
[] [Stone] Darcy could find the stone and keep it for her own research.
[] [Stone] Why should others have it? The Power Stone is now fused with Simon!
[] [Stone] I'm thinking of Something Else: Write In

Well, Vaughn no ideas for the Post-Credit Scene, but the marvel Execs did. Seeing how the Maggia has been hyped out they want to make sure to use Luchino Nefaria in the final Avengers film. For that, they want to have Nick Fury contact him in his cell and have him work with them with the "glowing cube" as Loki looks through a mirror and talks to him. It's a good plan, and would finally make use of the Kree in a way that does not feel intrusive in other films.

[] [Mid-Credit] Yes and I have an idea for it.
-[] [Mid-Credit] Write In:
[] [Mid-Credit] No, there's no need for one.

[] [Post-Credit] Yes and I have an idea for it.
-[] [Post-Credit] Luchino Nefaria is visited in his cell by Nick Fury as he's offered the chance to work on the "glowing cube" as Loki observes, and communicates with him, through one of the mirrors.
-[] [Post-Credit] Write In:

(You have 3 rerolls)
[ ] [Reshoot] Reshoot to improve a roll.
-[ ] Reroll what result? (Write-in)
[ ] [Reshoot] Intense Focus on a single roll (+10).
-[ ] Where should you focus? (Write-in)
(You have 3 additions/changes)
[ ] [Scene] Add or change a story element in the movie.
-[ ] Add or change what?

[ ] [Reshoot] Delay the movie to reshoot (Negotiation Roll)
-[ ] Reroll what result and how many? (Write-in)
-[ ] Add or change what? (Write-in)

[ ] [Reshoot] No reshoot. Greenlight to release.
- [] [Reshoot] When: Write In

Release date: March 2011
 
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The VFX team will not escape their fate, it appears we have been to leniant with them. Beatings will continue until results improve.
 
Well we can't release with two of our main villains, the ones the Hero actually fights, being terrible. Time for rerolls.
 
Eeeeh...

Do we need more than three rerolls?

Try and boost the 60s in production quality and editing? As well as the 2 bad performances? And vfx of course.
 
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