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Your standard Robot master only has a power output in the single-digit megawatts. That includes those two. You're probably getting wattage and voltage confused, common mistake there.
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That makes some rather low-powered superweapons then.

As your standard taser can produce a 50,000 volt shock and that is 0.05 megawatts, so being about to get tech like blackholes, time tech, weather effects and so on there with something 20 tasers could do here seems kind silly.

Also, just as a side note, nuke plants in our day here can produce up to around 1500 megawatts a hour depending on how you push them and what fuel is used. So Elec-man there can at least play around with that much power at once, since I'm betting future mega-man tech plants can at least output that kind of power.

So if all he had to help control the current he was using was single digit megawatts, how would he be able to do that?

Because if he can use a power to control something a near 150-1500x his own, then we really need to figure out how that stuff works and abuse the fuck out of it on all of our gear here.

As shit like that would be amassive boost to how much punch our energy weapons could have here. Since I know xcom reactors can pump out some silly levels of power here.

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Should I lock the vote now, or wait a bit longer?
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Good to lock I would say, since we seem to have already pretty much decided things here.
 
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Ironforge said:
That makes some rather low-powered superweapons then.

As your standard taser can produce a 50,000 volt shock and that is 0.05 megawatts, so being about to get tech like blackholes, time tech, weather effects and so on there with something 20 tasers could do here seems kind silly.

Also, just as a side note, nuke plants in our day here can produce up to around 1500 megawatts a hour depending on how you push them and what fuel is used. So Elec-man there can at least play around with that much power at once, since I betting future mega-man tech plants can at least output that kind of power.

So if all he had to help control the current he was using was single digit megawatts, how would he be able to do that?

Because if he can use a power to control something a near 150-1500x his own, then we really need to figure out how that stuff works and abuse the fuck out of it on all of our gear here.

As shit like that would be amassive boost to how much punch our energy weapons could have here. Since I know xcom reactors can pump out some silly levels of power here.
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You really need to study your units of electrical measurement.
Good to lock I would say, since we seem to have already pretty much decided things here.
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'Kay, Locking.
 
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You really need to study your units of electrical measurement.
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Ok, what am I messing up here so badly?

As if it was the taser thing, sure that is a really silly set up. As I know Watts = Volts * Amps, so without a amps to go with that volt I'm kind of difting in the wind here so to speak to show what kind of watts I'm dealing with.

But it still seems kind of low ball to me that these robots can use their bullshit super science powers on what amounts to a single year's worth of power usage the average home uses here.

As you would think their tech would be big power hogs here.

Or am I messing something and the robots produce megawatts of power in a time frame faster then a hour here?
 
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Is it safe to assume that all the people who are voting for Plan Iron are indirectly voting for my thing, since Ironforge is voting for it? Or do I need to get each person to change thier vote?
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Sure, why not. It's less work for me.

SCIENCE!
-Basic Shields
votes: x

-Time Stopper
votes: xxxxx

R&D department
-fix the C-10's recoil issues
votes: xxxxxxx

Manufacturing
-More Pocket Warships
votes: x

-Moon base prefab modules
votes: xxxxxx

Other Things
-PR work
votes: xxxxxx

-Smooth over moon base activation
votes: x

-Von Braun expansion to full shipyard
votes: xxxxx

-Upgrade Otto's body into one based on based off Spark Man, but with hands and a civilian mode.
votes: xxxxx
And the winning choice is...

SCIENCE!
-Time Stopper

R&D department
-Fix the C-10's recoil issues

Manufacturing
-prefab modules for expanding the moon base

Other stuff
-PR work
-Von Braun expansion to full shipyard
-Upgrade Otto's body into one based on based off Spark Man, but with hands and a civilian mode.
 
Ironforge said:
Ok, what am I messing up here so badly?

As if it was the taser thing, sure that is a really silly set up. As I know Watts = Volts * Amps, so without a amps to go with that volt I'm kind of difting in the wind here so to speak to show what kind of watts I'm dealing with.

But it still seems kind of low ball to me that these robots can use their bullshit super science powers on what amounts to a single year's worth of power usage the average home uses here.
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You're getting your units of energy and power mixed up for one thing. The standard unit of energy is a Joule, defined below as
the SI unit of work or energy, equal to the work done by a force of one newton when its point of application moves one meter in the direction of action of the force, equivalent to one 3600th of a watt-hour.
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a Newton is
the SI unit of force. It is equal to the force that would give a mass of one kilogram an acceleration of one meter per second per second, and is equivalent to 100,000 dynes.
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Watts are a unit of power, also known as energy over time. 1 Watt is 1 Joule per second. a Megawatt is 1,000,000 Joules per second. A Megawatt Hour is roughly equal to 3,600,000,000 Joules. The average American household uses about 10,908 kilowatt hours per year, and while that's quite a bit of energy, it gets taken in over time, with actual power consumption rarely going over a few kilowatts.
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Could you please answer my question from before? About whether we're still doing the other stuff, or whether they were one-off things.
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A reminder of what question that is would be very much appreciated.
 
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Watts are a unit of power, also known as energy over time. 1 Watt is 1 Joule per second. a Megawatt is 1,000,000 Joules per second. A Megawatt Hour is roughly equal to 3,600,000,000 Joules. The average American household uses about 10,908 kilowatt hours per year, and while that's quite a bit of energy, it gets taken in over time, with actual power consumption rarely going over a few kilowatt.
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Ah, thanks for clearing things up a little bit for me then.

Still, that amount of power just seems way to small for some of the effects we see the Robotmaster pull out here.

But I guess that works out for us in the end, as getting time tech and blackhole tech at only the cost of megawatts to upkeep is a steal here.
 
Gunman said:
What kinda (military) stuff are we selling to Earth and how do they compare with our own?
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Lasers (Using Superconductors rather than Elerium for the power supply), a bit of Gauss weaponry, and bulk Cydonium and Superconductors. You've also released plans for a basic cold fusion generator and aerospace engine, which need Superconductors.
 
Ironforge said:
Not really, as Light built X long before his end, it's just as soon as he built the guy he almost instantly figured out he was to far ahead for the current times and so stored him away until time was right.

Otherwise, how else could you explain the million and one armor upgrades he makes and sprinkles about the work for his use later?
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No, he stored him because he wouldn't be able to live long enough to test X out himself, to make sure everything is right. So he put him in the stasis pod that would test out everything for him over the next 30 years.

And I don't know what upgrades you are referring to.
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When in use, Bassinum can convert up to 20% of its mass directly into electrical charge, with a maximum power output of 70 megawatts per kilogram
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That doesn't sound nearly like the "unlimited energy" that it's said to be on the wiki. Good, but still not that good.
 
Trondason said:
Even without breaking thermodynamic, it's a mere 20% mass to energy conversion. For something espoused to be unlimited, I'd expect something more like 90%. Or even 100%
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It would still take over 8 years for a single 'fuel rod' to deplete. Bear in mind that you get 70 megawatts per kilogram, nothing's stopping you from making a multi-ton Bassnium reactor. Also, depleted Bassnium can be easily reprocessed, which stretches out how long a single fueling can last greatly.

EDIT: For stuff that doesn't involve messing with gravity, it's actually better than Elerium in some ways. Especially since it isn't radioactive.
 
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It would still take over 8 years for a single 'fuel rod' to deplete. Bear in mind that you get 70 megawatts per kilogram, nothing's stopping you from making a multi-ton Bassnium reactor. Also, depleted Bassnium can be easily reprocessed, which stretches out how long a single fueling can last greatly.
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But when you compare it to a fuel source that we already have that can convert 98% of it's mass into energy, the only upside Bassnium has is that it turns it directly into Electricity, preventing any possible losses in turning the energy into electricity. But supposing the process was as bad as losing 60% of the energy, that is still a better mass-energy conversion than Bassniums.

Is Bassnium substantially cheaper to make than Elerium?
 
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But when you compare it to a fuel source that we already have that can convert 98% of it's mass into energy, the only upside Bassnium has is that it turns it directly into Electricity, preventing any possible losses in turning the energy into electricity. But supposing the process was as bad as losing 60% of the energy, that is still a better mass-energy conversion than Bassniums.

Is Bassnium substantially cheaper to make than Elerium?
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That would be telling. I will say that none of the ingredients are heavier than Element 40, and that a lot of them are shared with one of your materials already in use.RED
 
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That would be telling. I will say that none of the ingredients are heavier than Element 40, and that a lot of them are shared with one of your materials already in use.RED
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Alright. What are Super Conductors made of?

Also, since we should know this, how expensive is Elerium to make?

Also also, on the main page, you messed up the quotes with the Aerospace Craft, it's now including everything after it including the robots, artillery, and resources.
 
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So Write, can we already make the tech needed to make the Robotmasters solar powered power cores? Or will those need to be researched first?

Also would that tech also fall under buster tech or is that just a branch of that text tree?

Since have for the most part near free limitless clean energy would be nice here.

Plus, converting our other plamsa weapons into a buster based one would help with supplies.
 
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Alright. What are Super Conductors made of?

Also, since we should know this, how expensive is Elerium to make?

Also, on the main page, you messed up the quotes with the Aerospace Craft on the front page, it's now including everything after it including the robots, artillery, and resources.
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1: No clue, I don't want to be embarrassed when some scientist disproves my formula. I will say that buying the required materials only costs about 120$ per kg, and that the substance is around 35% Carbon. However, each batch takes about 3 weeks to complete, and mixing batches at different stages of completion is a recipe for failure.

2: Elerium costs about 1,800$ per kg to synthesize, assuming you were buying the required materials rather than just mining them yourself.

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Ironforge said:
@I just write

So Write, can we already make the tech needed to make the Robotmasters solar powered power cores? Or will those need to be researched first?

Also would that tech also fall under buster tech or is that just a branch of that text tree?

Since have for the most part near free limitless clean energy would be nice here.

Plus, converting our other plamsa weapons into a buster based one would help with supplies.
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You can make them, but they've received a major nerf to be thermodynamics compliant. Namely, that you can't have a solar panel with greater efficiency than 100%, thus that solar core would only give you a few kilowatts and since it absorbs all light the user would appear completely black.

Busters have been changed around to work using cold fusion, and while you could easily make a Buster Rifle, just bear in mind that it would have even worse recoil problems than the C-10 due to not having its own inertial dampening system.
 
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1: No clue, I don't want to be embarrassed when some scientist disproves my formula. I will say that buying the required materials only costs about 120$ per kg, and that the substance is around 35% Carbon. However, each batch takes about 3 weeks to complete, and mixing batches at different stages of completion is a recipe for failure.

2: Elerium costs about 1,800$ per kg to synthesize, assuming you were buying the required materials rather than just mining them yourself.
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Well, as long as whatever differences are between Superconductors and Bassnium don't increase the cost by 3 times, Bassnium would end up being the most cost effective power source.
 
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You can make them, but they've received a major nerf to be thermodynamics compliant. Namely, that you can't have a solar panel with greater efficiency than 100%, thus that solar core would only give you a few kilowatts and since it absorbs all light the user would appear completely black.
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So then the standard cores are pretty much pointless for us then.

Ok, what do we use instead as a power core for a Robotmaster, since you already stated the ones we will build will have access to megawatts of power?

Also, do our basic designs even work for the robotmasters, or did we have to retool them using cross tech for the other 2 sources too?

Since it seems a lot of the basic stuff for the mega-man tech line here will be getting some rather large overhauls to fit in.

Busters have been changed around to work using cold fusion, and while you could easily make a Buster Rifle, just bear in mind that it would have even worse recoil problems than the C-10 due to not having its own inertial dampening system.
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Well then what is the gain for buster tech? Or is there not one here with your respeccing?

Since the main draws to that tech was it's ability to be a near limitless gun and ability to overcharge blasts without any harm to the weapon.
 
I've got a question about our Sleep Learners - namely, what kind of data do the devices use to teach people and how difficult is it to acquire? Are there specialized programs that convert raw information to learning packets? Do people have to do some part of it manually? Does the process involve brain scans of people?

I'm mainly wondering if we can use the SLs to make artificial psychics by downloading some kind of 'Madness' database into their brains.
 
Ironforge said:
So then the standard cores are pretty much pointless for us then.

Ok, what do we use instead as a power core for a Robotmaster, since you already stated the ones we will build will have access to megawatts of power?

Also, do our basic designs even work for the robotmasters, or did we have to retool them using cross tech for the other 2 sources too?

Since it seems a lot of the basic stuff for the mega-man tech line here will be getting some rather large overhauls to fit in.


Well then what is the gain for buster tech? Or is there not one here with your respeccing?

Since the main draws to that tech was it's ability to be a near limitless gun and ability to overcharge blasts without any harm to the weapon.
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1: You can theoretically run them off any power source. Your Joes at least have a pair of cold fusion cells each.

2: Your basic designs only needed moderate alterations. You're likely to incorporate your other tech-bases as part of it though.

3: Busters still have that, they just have recoil that's blatantly unsafe for an unaugmented human.
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I've got a question about our Sleep Learners - namely, what kind of data do the devices use to teach people and how difficult is it to acquire? Are there specialized programs that convert raw information to learning packets? Do people have to do some part of it manually? Does the process involve brain scans of people?

I'm mainly wondering if we can use the SLs to make artificial psychics by downloading some kind of 'Madness' database into their brains.
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They can work either by scanning someone, or automatically converting a pre-made data package into a proper neural format.

While you can certainly use them to teach someone how to use magic, actually granting them any will need something far more invasive (well, if you want a Savant out of the deal anyway).
 
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1: You can theoretically run them off any power source. Your Joes at least have a pair of cold fusion cells each.
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Wait, quick question, would the solar cores be strong enough to power our Laser weapons?

As if they could, that would let us be able to turn that type of gun into our version of the AK. Something really cheap, effective and long lasting.

2: Your basic designs only needed moderate alterations. You're likely to incorporate your other tech-bases as part of it though.
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So if we use cold fusion cells as standard for the bots, what kind of upgrade in power could we get if we gave them a alien powered one?

3: Busters still have that, they just have recoil that's blatantly unsafe for an unaugmented human.
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Do they give more punch then are other firearms of the same scale or are they only as good as standard plasma weapons?

Also, what would be the charge limit on a buster weapon?
 
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